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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Quote: The world knows what PlayStation represents (18+) versus what Xbox represents (Halo ) and what Nintendo represents (Mario). Your opinions do not equal what the "world" thinks.
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Samuel Henderson
Member #3,757
August 2003
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Manhunt 2 is being released for the Wii. Take Two interactive has already stated that developing for Nintendo is a must. Considering their past interactions with Nintendo I would say things are changing. So your argument that Playstation is always going to have (in your opinion) better games is only half true. The Playstation will have the capability to display better graphics, but if the game itself is the same, I'm sure most would settle for that. I agree that the hardware in the Play Station 3 is top of the line. I would love to own one somday, but the Wii has fun games right now. In a year or so I will buy a Play Station 3, by the the price will have dropped a bit. ================================================= |
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ReyBrujo
Moderator
January 2001
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Developers fully supported PlayStation 2 indeed. Xbox could have better graphics and sounds, but this is business: program for the lowest spec, and then port to the other one. That is why Xbox games look like PlayStation 2. Quote: The world knows what PlayStation represents (18+) This is one of the first things Sony did right: applying Sega slogan to Nintendo and Sega itself. GameCube was a very powerful console, however developers never really cared to learn how to correctly use its power. Resident Evil 4 is considered the best game of the last generation, and it was released for GameCube. To concentrate on a platform, either the platform must have a huge install base (so huge that sales in that platform alone would be higher than combining the other consoles), or pact a deal with the console maker (what Nintendo did with Capcom). We can expect first and second party titles to be launched on PlayStation 3. However, third party support will be slower. SNK already stated they won't be developing until 2009, and Eidos does not plan anything until 2008. I doubt Konami or Square Enix will launch their most expected titles this year (especially considering Dragon Quest IX is launching this year). Titles that were expected to sell in Japan, like Gundam Musou, disappeared from chart after selling 300,000 or so copies (remember, its developer, Namco, stated they needed 500,000 to cover costs, so they will think it twice before putting costly exclusives again). Titles like Virtua Fighter 5 are being ported to Xbox 360 because of the small install base. And this created an egg-chicken paradox: without appealing games, the console won't sell, but without consoles, developers won't put heavy hits. Only Sony can break it, either by signing exclusives or launching appealing first party games. I am confident PlayStation 3 will get very good games. But don't expect PS3 to get 70% of share market this generation. Sony has never lowered the price of a console (not even the PSP) before 18 months, yet they introduced a price cut in Japan before even launching (which did not work at all). Again, this is business, and right now, PS3 bleeds money. I will create a new thread on the first days of October, let's see how things are doing by then. -- |
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Carrus85
Member #2,633
August 2002
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Quote: The PlayStation hardware has always been competitive. Well, not always. /me points to PSone. N64 blew PSone out of the water on a hardware level (cpu speed, memory, bus speeds, fill rates, etc.) Just to illustrate my biases, here is my judgement: GC and PSTwo were relatively even matched (GC had the faster CPU, PSTwo had a better fill rate, etc.) Quote: The Nintendo controllers are always awkward to use and the Xbox controllers are way too large to be comfortable. The PlayStation controllers fit in your hand nicely and provide a good mechanism for common tasks (trigger, gas/brake, walk/strafe, etc.). Really? I always found playstation's compontentized directional pad to be a POS, not to mention to feel a little bit unresponsive (granted, the PS controllers I've used weren't new by any stretch of the imagination.) Quote: On top of that, the developers have always provided the best games for PlayStation consoles. Arguable, but I'll bite. This is because the playstation had the install base. It is the exact same reason that pretty much every computer game in existance is written for Microsoft Windows instead of Linux or Mac. This has changed, however. Sony no longer has the install base on the current generation. The PS3 is behind in sales, and the rate Wii is going, it will pass up even the Xbox360. Thus, where do we arive? Wii has the install base, ergo, developers will provide "the best games" for it. Remember, "oh shiny" != "great game". To imply such would be a logical fallacy. Graphics does not imply a great game, and being a great game does not imply graphics; they are completely orthogonal issues. Quote: I've heard it said a couple times that the PlayStation 3 is an expensive Blu-Ray player. Actually it's an inexpensive Blu-Ray player. I'm glad that Blu-Ray technology is built into the PlayStation 3. The 360 is supposed to have an HD-DVD drive coming (is that out yet), but users have to pay for it separately. What that means is that some people are going to decide not to purchase the drive and either lose support from some media or just lower demand for HD-DVD products. It seems obvious that Blu-Ray is the better media replacement for DVDs.
The Dictionary said: Not high in price; cheap. Inexpensive is relative. Just because something is "relatively cheap" compared to it's competitiors, does NOT make it "inexpensive." It makes it "the cheaper alternative." By your logic, a house priced $1 below market value is "inexpensive," even though the house is still has a market value of $200,000. Bullshit. Quote: The Wii is targetting the non-gamers, Sweeping Generalization. I'm a gamer, and I'm not buying the crap their peddling with the PS3. In short, be careful expressing opinion as fact; it makes you look like an ass.
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Kitty Cat
Member #2,815
October 2002
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Quote: I was under the impression that the PlayStation X outpowered the competition. I was also under the impression that the Xbox was the only platform that out-powered the PlayStation 2. AFAIA, the playstation systems have always been the weakest of the competition for one simple reasoning: they were out well before the competition, so the competition has slightly more opportunity to pick newer/better hardware components. This is not to say the playstation hardware was crap, just that it didn't stack up again the competition for their respective generations (the GC was on par with and possibly edged out the XBox, which you admit was better, in terms of power, than the PS2). The PS2 had a faster fillrate for the simple reason its hardware couldn't do as much.. much the same reason the PSX had a better fillrate than the N64: the N64 had perspective correct texture mapping with bilinear filtering and mipmapping, and the PSX didn't so it didn't have to "waste" processor cycles on it. If you notice this generation, the PS3 has the edge in terms of hardware, and was out later than the competition (ignoring Nintendo, who purposely didn't pick "powerful" hardware components this time around). -- |
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Specter
Member #8,535
April 2007
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After you figure the money amounts you would see that the better deals are (in order) Wii, PS3, then 360. Wii costs are the system, games, and the catalog to order older games from previous systems. (don't know if the online gaming costs) PS3 costs are the system, games, and then online gaming is free, you can play your PSone and PS2 games you owned before buying the PS3. 360 costs are the system, games, online gaming cards, and if you wait for the update to come you can play you old xbox games on the 360 (assuming you own a xbox game that won't play on the 360 yet). I own the PS3 60Gig but I would happily get the Wii if I didn't have so many PSOne/PS2 games when I was debating which to get. I will simply get the Wii later, but I won't touch the 360 as I don't like paying to play online. That is why I also don't own any new PC games like WoW because of the fees. Specter |
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Karadoc ~~
Member #2,749
September 2002
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I think it's silly that so many people claim that Wii is no good for 'hardcore gamers'. As for the PS3 being "a cheap blu-ray player"; that's only a useful argument if we were intending to buy a blu-ray player anyway. When I buy a game console, I don't necessary want to pay a bucket load of extra cash for a blu-ray player or whatever other 'cool features' the PS3 claims to have. I don't want to pay for things that I didn't want to buy. ----------- |
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Member #7,536
July 2006
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ReyBrujo
Moderator
January 2001
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Guess this thread is finished. Let's wait until October then. -- |
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