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Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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Don't argue with druggies.

Don't argue with someone with an addiction.

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LennyLen
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And so, the gross generalisation award of the day goes to Matthew.

Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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I accept the award with great honor, because I cannot argue with you! 8-)

LennyLen
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December 2004
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Going for the Ad Hominem award too, are we? :P

You also neglected to mention earlier that anyone who takes drugs is a deranged homicidal pervert who rapes dogs and eats babies. We also pray to evil gods and bathe in each others bodily fluids.

Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Druggies are my heroes. :-[ I would never attack them!

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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You also neglected to mention

Ah, but thats not what he was saying ;)

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Jakub Wasilewski
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June 2003
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Lenny said:

We also pray to evil gods and bathe in each others bodily fluids

Both things simultaneously, or perhaps one after the other? :D

Seriously, I say let people take drugs if they want to - as long as they're dangerous only to themselves, it's their choice and their choice only. And rave parties are one place where they're separated from other people, so no harm is done.

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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Seriously, I say let people take drugs if they want to

Yes, and then the system gets bogged down with all these suicidal druggies. They aren't only harming them selves, but puting too much extra strain on the helth care system.

And wasting all the investment put into them by their parents and the tax payers. People get "free" schooling to grow up, live, and work for the betterment of their family, and country/human-race.

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Inphernic
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March 2001

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as long as they're dangerous only to themselves

It'd seem that the majority of druggies who attend raves are potheads and those using extacy (with the random speedy guys). Potters are too inert and jolly to be dangerous and MDMA'ers are too empathic to even hurt a fly. Both are as dangerous as a pile of кoтёнoк. ;)

Kitty Cat
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October 2002
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I'll buy that, if they have realized that many of their choices is akin to suicide.

Everyone commits suicide, didn't you know?

Suicide is making a choice to end your life. You know you will die (no one lives forever), so by choosing to live, you're choosing to let yourself get closer to death. The only way to not let yourself live is to get yourself killed. :X

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Jakub Wasilewski
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Both are as dangerous as a pile of кoтёнoк

I didn't mean dangerous to each other, but each to his own health or life or whatever ;).

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LennyLen
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Yes, and then the system gets bogged down with all these suicidal druggies. They aren't only harming them selves, but puting too much extra strain on the helth care system.

Well, that's a government policy problem then. And you might want to take a look at how much of your countries health budget goes into fixing alcohol-related matters. Personally, I'm of the opinion that if you take the drug (including alcohol), any related complications are your problem, and yours alone. Prison terms for people who commit crimes while on drugs (again, alcohol included) need to be made harser as well.

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And wasting all the investment put into them by their parents and the tax payers. People get "free" schooling to grow up, live, and work for the betterment of their family, and country/human-race.

What about the millions of people who manage to "waste" their lives without drugs?

Thomas Fjellstrom
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Well, that's a government policy problem then.

Ok, so then they should just be left to rot? Ok. I'll buy that. And after that we can start to drop people with mental illness's as well, and then people with severe injuries.

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And you might want to take a look at how much of your countries health budget goes into fixing alcohol-related matters.

Same idea, different pile.

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What about the millions of people who manage to "waste" their lives without drugs?

Also bad. But were not talking about them are we? ;)

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LennyLen
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December 2004
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And after that we can start to drop people with mental illness's as well, and then people with severe injuries.

Mental illness and injuries aren't [inherently] self-inflicted.

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Also bad. But were not talking about them are we?

Put it this way, why should someone be obligated to "be all that they can be" and to better humanity, just because their parents decided to have children, and the goverment decided to invest money in them?

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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Mental illness and injuries aren't [inherently] self-inflicted.

No, but users are still sick. If they want treatment, they should get it. Once anyhow.

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why should someone be obligated

They are only obligated if they choose to reap any of the benefits of society. Otherwise, they should immediately kill themselves, or find a nice deserted island somewhere to die on.

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gnolam
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March 2002
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I challenge anyone to argue with Thomas now without invoking Godwin. I'm not sure if it's possible anymore!

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Hitler was a druggie, which is why he was cool.

X-G
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December 2000
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gb2/420chan

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ngiacomelli
Member #5,114
October 2004

One could argue that spending your entire life in front of a computer with little or no excercise is far more destructive than partaking in 'social' or 'party' drugs.

Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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We build the intarweb.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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/me bows to matthew

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X-G
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December 2000
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Am I gonna have to charge mah lazer?

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Inphernic
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March 2001

You just gotta shoop some whoops.

Billybob
Member #3,136
January 2003

I just wanted to find a free party, now look what happened. :-/

X-G
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December 2000
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