Steve HATE hack'n'slash!

World of Warcraft is about imagination. It's about exploring a huge, beautiful world, and interacting with other people in the context of that world. It's about adventure. I think the main focus of the game is to make it an alternate, fantasy reality. It's not about depth of gameplay.

Anyway, how can some of you say it's a bad game if you only dislike it after playing many and many hours of it? How many games do you play more than World of Warcraft before getting bored with the game? Some may last more due to the competitiveness (on-line FPSs and RTSs), but I doubt there's many, and you have to be very skilled to enjoy those games for long.

Well, that explains more of my reaction. I've begun over the last few months to have a strong dislike for fantasy. I enjoy theoretical situations and the like, but when it comes to "living" in a fantasy world, it angers me. And of course, it should me, because I used to practically live in one when I had major depression. I lived in anime, TV shows, games and the like. I lived in my mind. And when you live in a world as depressed as you are (which it should, since you created it), you just drag your depression out longer. So yeah, that's one reason why I can't stand them now. It just feels really bad, so I don't want to do anything remotely similer. I'm more on "real life" now.

But don't get me wrong! If you enjoy it, have at it! I just don't enjoy it anymore.

p.s. Wow, I think I just had a moment.

So it takes longer if you do the quests... How the hell does Blizzard motivate that?

Heh, if it's so easy to level up to 60, where's the fun? Also where's the fun on level 60?

You can just go round, killing people?
Why?
Because, it's a sin, er. fun, isn't it?

Nope, that's why I don't play Fallout 2 after the ending, because, basicaly there's nothing to do, just going around the map and shooting. No quests, no leveling, no fun.

Hmm... interesting. You know, in the MUD I play, the fastest player to reach to myth was someone whose character was 45 days old upon reach it, playing maybe 16 hours per day nonstop. My own character is one of the four oldest mortal characters in the MUD, and he is a grown up legend (one level before myth). Of course, it is a different target, and the places where you can go to grow fast require teams of around 4 or 5 champions or legends. However, we agree that WoW system is thought for PvP, since you can recover from a death pretty quickly, while here you need maybe a month in order to restore yourself with quests and battles.

But if you had skill built up from real experience, it would be much harder to die. In real life anyone can take you down, but the experienced are still much much less likely to die in battle.

Totally agree. I think this is why I like starting over. After playing your level 40 and taking a day or 2 to hit the next level, it just sucks.

Really every point here can be countered with why it's not fun
rep = grinding
PvP gear = grinding
attack a town alone = instant death I mean like 50 guards spawn to take you out
Quests at 60 for me just feel empty. Sure you get gold, but I don't play the game for gold

I agree that real life skill makes a game fun, but I think people level out faster with real life skill than they do with the game skill that the game gives you for playing x # of hours. In an MMO I would like more game skill the more I play, but that's not how it works in most. For example in WoW, if you don't raid, and you go up against a person who raids, even though you might put more hours into the game, you will get smoked. Tier .5 going up against Tier 3 armor will die fast .

Raiders don't always put in more time than non raiders also. Basically raiding comes down to your real life schedule. If you can fit it in or adjust your schedule, then it's no problem. The people that can't, suffer.

I agree. I'm just curious why they create a game like that. Is it because they don't want to do anything to radical to scare people off, which means not making millions of $? They have such a great engine there, I just wish they would go out and try something different.

I just have a hard time believing that in their design meetings they were saying "I know this part isn't really fun, but it'll keep them playing longer which means more cash for us." I don't want to believe that any game company would do that, but I'm sure some do.

Must resist.. the lure of.. Trek!

All EA owned does that...

I guess some don't however. Duke Nukem Forever sure aint made for profit.

Well I'm still having brilliant fun playing WoW. It's all about the people. We have a great guild with loads of interesting people, and I play it more for the social side of it than anything. I must confess that it's also nice to be respected, amongst other guildies.

Best of all I met someone who I really love while playing WoW. Ok, so maybe she lives a few thousand miles away, but we can still enjoy each other's company while playing WoW, and the relationship we do have is probably a lot more romantic than most RL relationships. I think I linked it before, but here's a WoW movie we made together: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2811997973984250114&q=dance+in+scholo
It's great to know a girl who shares my interests. This is probably where you tell me to get a grip and get in touch with reality, but what we share goes beyond just WoW. Perhaps we'll meet up one day, we're both fond of traveling. I don't really play WoW anymore apart from when she's online, and just being with her in-game makes life worth living.