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Remxes of popular songs
jhuuskon
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Ishkur's is good, but opinionated. :(

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Crazy Photon
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Ishkur's is good, but opinionated.

I agree, yet it is easy to make the distinction of the music genres. I think he also intended not to be taken too seriously :)

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jhuuskon
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Yes, but calling some genres shit just because he thinks so is, IMHO, dumb.

With every release he's toned down his opinions, though. :P

I forgot to mention: Pras - Haven't Found totally 0wns the original, U2 - I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For, even though it's not a remix per se and falls a little out of the scope of this thread. Then again, this is the derail central. :)

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casey d
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The are all crap, the recipe is:
1. Take a popular good song.
2. Add a techno drum and a buffoon who says "cool" things once in a while.
3. If budget permits it, add a girl who says something childish & sexy (yes they try to combine it) once in a while.

So my answer to your question is: none.

Ha, and on that note, I recently discovered "Come Una Pietra Scalciata" by Articolo 31, which is a hip-hop version of Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone" in Spanish that samples the original. Sounds pretty cool/weird.

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Tobias Dammers
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I disagree. There are many good covers (which really is the same thing as a remix in my book).

In theory, yes. In practise, there is a slight difference (although with modern recording technology, it's more a marketing thing than a technical difference). A "remix" is (a part of) the original recording, with extra stuff added, while a "cover" features the original composition, but no original audio material.
Covers I like, let's see:
Los Van Van: "Tim-Pop con Birdland" (featuring the original "Birdland" by Joe Zawinul)
Phil Collins: "Tomorrow Never Knows" (Lennon/McCartney)
Björk: "Like Someone In Love" (Jazz classic; forgot who wrote the tune, shame on me)
Klimax: "Oye Como Va" (Tito Puente, but definitely influenced by the 1970s cover by Santana)
N.G. La Banda: "Longina" (again, don't know who wrote the thing, but it's definitely pretty old, I'd say 1930's or 40's)
Joe Cocker: "With A Little Help From My Friends" (Lennon/McCartney)
Robbie Williams: "A Love Supreme" (basically, "I Will Survive", but altered just enough to avoid copyright issues. Clever boy.)
Cake: "I Will Survive"
Die mächtigen Kassierer: "Das Mädchen von Ipanema" (Garota de Ipanema). Once there was a nice text in Portuguese. Then the composer's wife translated it into English. Then a bunch of drunk Germans translated the English version into German. It's certainly not beautiful, but it's funny as hell.
Manolín "El Médico de la Salsa": "El Puente" (from "El Puente - Live in Miami". Using the Star Wars theme by John Williams).

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Kitty Cat
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I like Nightwish's covers of Megade(a)th's Symphony of Destruction (I heard Nightwish's version first, and I have to say I like it better than the original), and Sonata Arctica's Over The Hills and Far Away (never heard the original so I can't compare). Other covers I like:
Alien Ant Farm - Smooth Criminal (originally by Michael Jackson; I like the cover better, but I did hear it first)
Disturbed - Land of Confusion (originally Genesis; which one I like better depends if I'm in the mood for 80s synth or heavy metal)
Disturbed - Shout (originally Tears for Fears; I like the original better, but it's a nice alternative)

Can't think of any others currently...

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Moving Shadow
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All Mixed Up - The Cure

An entire album of remixes by the Cure themselves, one of the rare times when remixes out-do the originals.

jhuuskon
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A "remix" is (a part of) the original recording, with extra stuff added, while a "cover" features the original composition, but no original audio material.

Not really.

A remix is essentially just a song taken and done again in a different way. There doesn't have to be original audio present. Hell, you can even omit the vocal track if you want and replace it with a cow mooing the same melody, if you want.

A remix can be a cover, or it can be the same track done differently by the original artist, or just one member of the whole group.

It's definition is at best very ambiguous.

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gnolam
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Tobias is right.

re·mix
tr.v. re·mixed, re·mix·ing, re·mix·es

To recombine (audio tracks or channels from a recording) to produce a new or modified audio recording: remixed a popular ballad and turned it into a dance hit.

Kitty Cat said:

I like Nightwish's covers of Megade(a)th's Symphony of Destruction (I heard Nightwish's version first, and I have to say I like it better than the original), and Sonata Arctica's Over The Hills and Far Away

Sonata Arctica has done a version of Over the Hills and Far Away? Are you sure you're not just thinking of Nightwish again? :)

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jhuuskon
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To recombine (audio tracks or channels from a recording) to produce a new or modified audio recording: remixed a popular ballad and turned it into a dance hit.

Don't you fellows realize that that definition is 25 years old and things have changed since then?

Maybe back then it did only mean that. Since, the concept's gone broader. Just compare these three remixes of Energy 52 - Cafe Del Mar: Cosmic Baby's First Impression (the other of the two "originals", there is no such thing as one single original version of Cafe Del mar)), Three'n'One remix and Hybrid's Time Traveller Remix. The only things common between those three are the melodies and chords. There's not one byte of audio preserved from the older tracks. They're entirely new versions, the underlying notes are however the same and identifyable.

These days remixing is like making a cover with much creative freedom. One could say the term 'remix' has grown to include the term 'rearrange'.

It's like telling someone else's story in your own words.

Just because the word is (arguably) bastardized by expanding it to mean much more than what it did 25 years ago, doesn't mean thousands of producers should stop using the word, even if the new broader meaning is what it means to everyone. No, it's the definition of the word that has to expand to reflect the new meaning.

It's one of those electronic music things. We have our own vocabulary for these things,you know? :)

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FMC
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March 2004
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Did anyone mention Du Hast (starcraft remix)?

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and Matrix II Trance Mix

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Kitty Cat
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Sonata Arctica has done a version of Over the Hills and Far Away? Are you sure you're not just thinking of Nightwish again? :)

Hmm.. well, I did a quick Google and found references to 'Sonata Arctica - Over the Hills and Far Away (Nightwish cover)'. Looking at Wikipedia though, it appears Nightwish did a cover of the song after Gary Moore, and the version creditted to Sonata Arctica is actually done by Thyrfing.

Oh, and another cover I like: Zeromancer - Send Me An Angel (originally by Real Life, I think).

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fuzinavl
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miran: check out
duran duran - strangelove (bombthebass remix)
The instrumentals would be good for some quirky starcontrol-esque game

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Andrei Ellman
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April 2003

Here's some I can think of off the top of my head (although some may just be songs based off a sample, and not a proper remix)

Kiss AMC - A Bit Of.. (remix of U2's New Year's Day)
Electroset - How does it feel. (remix of New Order's Blue Monday)
Eric B and Rakim - Paid in full (Coldcut remix)
Various Utah Saints songs.

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jhuuskon
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April 2000
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fuzinavl, Cyber Dogs rules! ;D

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