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Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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Kent Larsson said: And I understand how you feel about criticism (even when it's constructive to the max).
No, no and no, don't make me look like a fool that can not take criticism. Did i say otherwise? I don't have to agree to everything and i really don't know what that last comment of yours is supposed to say about me. --- 0xDB | @dennisbusch_de --- |
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kentl
Member #2,905
November 2002
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Quote: No, no and no, don't make me look like a fool that can not take criticism. I never said fool. And how you look depends on what you write, not what I write. |
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Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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Kent Larsson said: I never said fool. And how you look depends on what you write, not what I write.
And so...? I still don't know what you want to say, because you did not answer my questions. --- 0xDB | @dennisbusch_de --- |
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kentl
Member #2,905
November 2002
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First of all, calm down. And I think that it is obvious that I thought you were being a bit to defensive about your design. Perhaps I should have expressed myself differently and I might have jumped to conclusions about how you receive criticism in general, in this case I still got this impression. End of story. |
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NyanKoneko
Member #5,617
March 2005
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It's Dennis's site. We are all willing to help in out as much as we can. However, it's important to respect Dennis's opinion. Dennis is quite an accomplished artist, if you ever been to his site, you would have seen his wonderful art. Sometimes artists disagree, but sometimes it's best to agree to disagree. Dennis, I think you should do what you think is best. =) Furthermore, although my previous comments may suggest otherwise, I support your decision. ----------------- |
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X-G
Member #856
December 2000
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Quote: Dennis, I think you should do what you think is best. I know what he thinks is best I don't think he should do that. Funny, huh? -- |
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Richard Phipps
Member #1,632
November 2001
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Quote: I know what he thinks is best I don't think he should do that. What? We need a graphic designer to be the judge of these banners and to come up with some alternate designs! Anyone here do it for a living? |
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Archon
Member #4,195
January 2004
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Quote: Sometimes artists disagree, but sometimes it's best to agree to disagree. Don't you mean it's best to disagree than to agree? |
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Inphernic
Member #1,111
March 2001
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Quote: We need a graphic designer to be the judge of these banners and to come up with some alternate designs! Or we could stop caring and let him use whatever eye ravager he stubbornly wants to use! -- |
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Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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Nyan, I agree.:) Others(please don't make the mistake of reading the following with some angry voice, it is supposed to be calmly explainative to "Why" i made the decision i made): It might be true that a lot of people will not click my banners, but i just don't want to, pointlessly and under all circumstances, make people come to my site for no reason. Simply put: Why i decided against a so called "simplistic and elegant" design? Thanks again to everyone for taking the time to make comments and share opinions.:) --- 0xDB | @dennisbusch_de --- |
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Inphernic
Member #1,111
March 2001
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Kitsch ahoy! Man the lifeboats! Inphernic first! -- |
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Johan Peitz
Member #9
April 2000
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Simple solution: Make multiple banners. Log CTR. Go with the one that generates the most clicks. -- |
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Archon
Member #4,195
January 2004
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Quote: Go with the one that generates the most clicks. Wont the top one (or bottom one if it's at the top) get an advantage due to people not wanting to move the mouse so far? |
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rockslave
Member #873
January 2001
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I agree that your banners seem a little bit "cut" and too colorful. Indeed, I liked this one better: Just would add some more descriptive content and maybe change the gray to a more bluish tone. |
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Ron Ofir
Member #2,357
May 2002
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the (+full sources) make it look too ameture. |
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Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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Well, nobody shall accuse me of being stubborn, unwilling to learn or even completely learn-resistent, so i continued to work on banners. In fact after staring at 5 and 6 for a long time, i don't find them so appealing any more. Rockslave, i made it a little more blue-ish as you suggested and also played around with it some more, so here are quite a few different versions. original 7: I also made an attempt to 'improve' the older versions. 8a: And for comparison convenience, here are the original old versions again. 5: --- 0xDB | @dennisbusch_de --- |
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Derezo
Member #1,666
April 2001
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I think 8a has a lot of potential, but something seems off with the text. The placement, font and the text itself doesn't seem very fitting to me. I also like 7b. 7c is also good. "He who controls the stuffing controls the Universe" |
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Inphernic
Member #1,111
March 2001
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7B. I can sleep at night by pretending that 5, 6 and 8* are not there. Quote: You guys destroyed a piece of my free will.
It's for the best.. for everyone. -- |
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Ron Ofir
Member #2,357
May 2002
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I really like the 8's, perhaps you should make the www.dennis... brighter? Oh, and the first two thumbnails are pretty useless, as they don't show anything cool (unlike the other 3). |
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X-G
Member #856
December 2000
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http://www.monkeyblah.com/art/fsa-banner.gif -- |
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kentl
Member #2,905
November 2002
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All of the pictures never seems to load for me at the same time, after lots of reloading I've seen them all. I like 7 and 7[abc], and X-G's version. Quote: And if they think "That banner sure looks amateurish and poor." then they are not interested in its' content anyway and by that also have no reason to come to my site.
Well I said that the banner looked amateurish and poor, and I still find your dynamic color pattern generator very interesting. So your conclusion must be false then. |
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Richard Phipps
Member #1,632
November 2001
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X-G's version looks cool. Darn you! |
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miran
Member #2,407
June 2002
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The http://www.dennisbusch.de/ text is almost unreadable -- |
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rockslave
Member #873
January 2001
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Yeah, that's what I meant about the colors, Dennis! Both 7b and 7c are very pleasing to the eye; grey and blue in the same circle were getting conflictant, it's pretty nice now. I think that 7b and 7c not only look very professional, as they won't bug the person you're intending to attract. Yet, I think the text could be more "appealing", if you get what I mean. EDIT: For instance, "free games and utilities", "Dynamic Color Generator", etc... |
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Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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So be it, 7b seems to be the one in the cut set of the opinions here and so i uploaded that for the a.cc banner network. I agree to what Derezo and Ron said about 8a and 8b, i'll see if i can further work on them tomorrow. I also like yours X-G, only three little things: Rockslave, i think i'll keep the text i have now, because there is only one game and one utility so far, so 'free games and utilities'(plural) also seems a little overvaluing the site, as it would be a plain lie and by that could also awaken too high expectations on the viewers side.:-/ --- 0xDB | @dennisbusch_de --- |
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