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How do you Define Maturity?
RallyMonkey
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May 2004
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I was on a forum that has really gone down the drains lately (read: "This is Very Depressing"). There is one boy (15) who keeps posting about how there are so many "stupid" 13-year-olds there were messing with the forum. (This guy is 15, he really is not much better than most people there. But you can tell he tries to make his posts readable atleast.) This is about the fifth time I have read a remark from him like "The stupid little 13 year olds." So I replied to one of his posts with this.

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I respect you Skilzat. You attempt to use proper spelling and grammar in posts. Yet, I still view you of having an inferiority complex. You seem to make sure that people know you are older than most people here. And really, it doesn't matter how long you have been in this world. It is your maturity towards it. I have seen some extremely immature 19-year-old's who would probably be the ones posting the "first to join is a mod." type of topic. And I have seem some extremely mature 10-year-old's.

He replied with.

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Blah blah you just say that because you are one of the little kids who belongs without a forum. Very mature 10 year olds? Honestly, that is a bunch of bull. Being mature involves a lot more than being knowledgable and nice to people on forums; it involves many things. Such as your interests, honestly, if you still are obsessed with Anime and stuff, what does that show about your outlook on life? And how many 10 year olds plan for college, especially at this forum, how many have actually taken steps to give themselves a better future. Anyways, 10 year olds arent even that knowledgable, I mean, do you learn real algebra or geometry or anything else that is actually usefull and not review at 10 years of age? Nope. Just because somebody can type with proper grammar and spelling doesnt make them mature. Maturity also involves physical maturity of course, and without that...........

Oo, and where have I mispelled? I see one word in my post that I could possibly have mispelled. Big whoop, nobody cares, that is just something to change the subject away from the facts.

I lost all my respect for him right there.

Anyways... how do you define maturity? Do you think it has to do with age? Brains? Respect for others? Or what? Personally, I think it is how they treat others.

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Richard Phipps
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November 2001
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Maturity? A difficult question!

I think everyone will have a different answer for this. Personally I think it's about respecting other people and being honest with yourself.

Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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  Maturity \Ma*tu"ri*ty\, n. [L. maturitas: cf. F. maturit['e].]
     1. The state or quality of being mature; ripeness; full
        development; as, the maturity of corn or of grass;
        maturity of judgment; the maturity of a plan.
  
     2. Arrival of the time fixed for payment; a becoming due;
        termination of the period a note, etc., has to run.

Personally, I consider someone mature when they've had sufficiently many experiences that they don't react extremely to new ones.

EDIT: they don't react disproportionately to new ones.

Richard Phipps
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November 2001
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Thomas: I'm not quite following that idea. Could you explain it some more?

Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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Not without corroding its core simplicity! Being mature is, in my opinion, being at a level where you can understand the true value and consequence of the things other people have done and any things you are considering doing in response. Compare and contrast with the typical want to over-react when younger, which I am claiming often comes from a lack of perspective resulting directly from a lack of experience rather than, e.g. a naturally zealous character.

RallyMonkey
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Thomas, according to your defination, younger children can't be mature. I have seen some very polite 6-year-olds. Who I find to be mature for their age. Of course, your defination could be one or the other.

Another question. Do you find yourself to be mature?

I do not. I try to be. It jsut doesn't always come out that way. My friends say I know when to be mature and when to make jokes. Some just say I am mature all of the time. Some people say I am extremely immature.

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Thomas Harte
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Thomas, according to your defination, younger children can't be mature

No, younger children will simply tend towards being immature according to my definition, whereas a natural disengagement or a preference to experience new things will often produce the same effects of not over-reacting as an informed sense of perspective.

Richard Phipps
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Being mature is, in my opinion, being at a level where you can understand the true value and consequence of the things other people have done and any things you are considering doing in response.

I hope you live to a ripe old age then, because I doubt most people ever get that far. :)

RallyMonkey
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Here is how this guy responded after I said I lost all of my respect for him.

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BTW, try typing every single word correct while typing 90 WPM. I dont care much for apostrophes much anyways.

I dont really care about the respect from a little boy hiding behind his computer on these forums. At least do something to contribute to GMC.

::)

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mEmO
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March 2001
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I would say that you're mature once you stop being concerned about yourself and, more importantly, others being mature. Seriously, the word has no real value. Drop it.

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No real value in this context, I might add.

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Thomas Harte
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Here's a fact that's fun for all the family: boys mature faster than girls, we're just above rubbing it in their faces all the time.

RallyMonkey
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Someone woke up on the wrong side of whatever he woke up on this morning.

UPDATE: Also, this is the other guys words about being mature, personally, I do not care whether people think I am mature, or anything else about me for that matter as long as they respect me. I hold respect extremely high.

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Matthew Leverton
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Maturity is knowing when not to speak. :-X

RallyMonkey
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Hey ML, you will love the last post on this topic.

Another "Skilzat" post

I think A.cc is rubbing off on me.

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Derezo
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April 2001
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Thomas Harte is right with this quote,

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Being mature is, in my opinion, being at a level where you can understand the true value and consequence of the things other people have done and any things you are considering doing in response.

To expand on that, maturity is following the rules and breaking them appropriately ;)

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Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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Truthfully, IMO, you can't define maturity. The reason I believe this is because everyone's definition and idealogy of maturity and what is mature is completely different. I'm sure Webster's Dictionary and psychology books define it but those definitions are according to what the writers think it is according to their interpretation of the term and what others consider it to be. Maturity is just like the civilian's idea of the written law, it is all just interpretation and an idealogy of it. Nothing more.

RallyMonkey
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May 2004
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That is exactly the reason I posted this. What is your interpretation of it Harbinger ZERO? ;)

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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#define Maturity void

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Indeterminatus
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November 2000
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LolOLOOLOOL!!!1!!!111

I aM TEH M4tUr3 H4x00R!!!1!!11 n0 _w1cK1d p3Rs0N b3iNG 4s M4Tur3 Th4N M333!!1!!! I w1Ll K1cK yOuR 4$$!

Everybody who knows l33t sp34k has to be mature. This very highly evolved language proves validity by its existance over long decades. Everybody NOT knowing l33t sp34k is immature. Oh yeah, another sign of maturity: make a MMORPG as first programming project.

(Just for the case you haven't noticed: I've been being sarcastic. Take me for example. You just have to invert me and you'll get your definition of maturity!)

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RallyMonkey
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That saddest part about that. It probably took you an hour to write. I know it would take me that long.

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Marcello
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January 2002
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His l33t speak is actually much more readable than some I've seen...

Marcello

Steve Terry
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March 2002
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Indeterminatus: did you get your e-mail/PM from Matthew yet ;D... if not... expect to receive one soon.

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Chris Katko
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January 2002
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Man, I almost wish I was on those forums. I had a jolly good time writing a reply to his post, but it serves no purpose, so meh.

I'm in a strange mood today. It's like I'm blood-thirsty, and yet really happy at the same time. :)

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RallyMonkey
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To my above link? You should have signed-up if you already took the time to write a reply. Takes what? Five seconds.

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Chris Katko
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To the original post. But even if I smashed his ego into the ground, what have I gained? What have I gained in another's suffering? Will I feel better? Or worse?

Even if he probably could use a nice slap, it's probably best to ignore is ignorance. Remember, debating over the internet is like winning the special olympics. Even if you win, your still retarded. ;) As for you, all I can say (in addition to ignoring him) is to set the best possible example for yourself and people like you.

23: That music video is funny. I like the song musically, but the idea of joining the military and then deserting is so stupid (we even had a thread on it). Perfect MTV, though. ;D

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