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james_lohr
Member #1,947
February 2002

I agree. So many people use it's when it's blatantly its! Specially since it's quicker to write its. Rather change all it's to its.

Use it's in the wrong place once more and nnnNNNNEE!! ne ne NNNEEE.

There's something wrong with me.

gnolam
Member #2,030
March 2002
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JL: Its probebly an allurgy to bad speling/grammer or somthing. ;)

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Bruce Perry
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April 2000

Use "it's" incorrectly again and smashm.xm will start playing on your computer. MOOOOOOORE BRAAAAAAIINS!!! ;)

'Tis curious, though ::)

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james_lohr
Member #1,947
February 2002

Tis is such a cool word! 'twas and always will be!

From now onwards I'm going to use tis instead of it's.

Bruce Perry
Member #270
April 2000

Uhh... don't forget the apostrophe then :P

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23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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Um ... English doesn't teach actual English ;) You read stuff like 1984, MacBeth or The Great Gatsby and try to figure out what the little green light on the dock means ...

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Bruce Perry
Member #270
April 2000

Yeah, I'm fully aware of that. However, we did do a "pilot test" for an English spelling, punctuation and grammar thing they were possibly introducing the subsequent year. Maybe things are looking up, at least in this country :)

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Zaphos
Member #1,468
August 2001

Your teacher liked that green light, too? Huh, stupid light.
Grammar is supposed to be taught in lower English; upper English is supposed to require essays that prove you know it. If the essays have flaws, then points should be taken off to enforce proper usage. It would be a good system, except I don't think most highschools require even close to as many essays as they should, and if the teachers aren't rigorous in caring ... well, it just fails to teach.

People don't need to be, on the whole, 'informed crusaders' to change language for the better. The language is still changing towards my side, and the "rule" is very very clearly a flaw in the standard. It's not like this is going to hurt backwards compatability or anything ... there's no reason not to just fix the language!

Edit: Fine, pretty now.

gnolam
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March 2002
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Zaphos said:

... then points should be taking off to enforce proper usage

I guess many of your points took off ;)

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Bruce Perry
Member #270
April 2000

Zaphos: I think you'll find that no informed writer deviates from the its vs it's rule. The Internet may be saturated with the error, but published books are not. Good luck in getting your wish :P

Capital E for English by the way.

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23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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Zaphos and Gnolam said:

... then points should be taking off to enforce proper usage.

I guess many of your points took off.

Perhaps he's allocating points to his "proper spelling and grammar" attribute?

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Zaphos
Member #1,468
August 2001

Bruce: I think you'll find that there are some who do; 'tis possible to get all kinds of low-grade crap published, and people rely more and more on spellcheck and MS grammar to do the work for them ...
To the point, though, obviously a proofread work is going to conform to the current standards like that one, which hasn't been damaged nearly enough to fall out of style. It'll probably take a few more generations to fix itself, if it ever does, without somebody making a hissy fit about it ... and it really doesn't matter much.

About Gnolam's corrections ... heh, funny. I'm not writing an english paper, though.

X-G
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December 2000
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When I first saw the topic in Recent Threads, all I could think was " ... Monty Python's Flying Circus". If you've seen it, you know what I mean. ;)

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miran
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June 2002

Thank you very much X-G. Now I won't be able to get the picture of Terry Jones playing a piano wearing nothing but a bow tie out of my head...

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23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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X-G: I thought that too, partly because BP is evidently a fan :)
The "It's" Man was my third avatar ;D

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jhuuskon
Member #302
April 2000
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Gnolam
Gnolamin
Gnolamia
Gnolamiin
Gnolamista
Gnolamille
Gnolamiksi
Gnolamilta
Gnolamina
Gnolamissa
Gnolamista
Gnolamilla
Gnolamitta

Plus the plural form of each, and the 2 VERY rare plural-only cases.
Piece of cake ;D

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Inphernic
Member #1,111
March 2001

Gnolam
Gnolameiden
Gnolameihin
Gnolameiksi
Gnolameilla
Gnolameille
Gnolameilta
Gnolamein
Gnolameina
Gnolameineen
Gnolameissa
Gnolameista
Gnolameitta
Gnolameitten
Gnolameja
Gnolamia
Gnolamien
Gnolamiin
Gnolamiksi
Gnolamilla
Gnolamille
Gnolamilta
Gnolamitta
Gnolamissa
Gnolamista
Gnolamin
Gnolamina
Gnolamit
Gnolamista

This is probably the complete list of cases which apply to noun "Gnolam". If I remember correctly, there are still a couple of cases which look just them same as the ones already mentioned, but still have a whole another meaning (determined by the context). Also there are cases which do not apply to this word not all (after all, what would complete chaos be without having a different set of rules for nouns, verbs, etc), not to mention all the special rules and exceptions for everything! ^^

An example how three other finnish words build their cases.

Gnolam - Gnolameja - Gnolamiksi - Gnolameiksi
Puu    - Puita     - Puuksi     - Puiksi     
Kissa  - Kissoja   - Kissaksi   - Kissoiksi  
Lanka  - Lankoja   - Langaksi   - Langoiksi

Heh. And Bruce here considers "its" as a big linguistical problem. :)

gnolam
Member #2,030
March 2002
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Whoa!

Remind me never to move to the Finnish-speaking parts of Finland :)

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Trezker
Member #1,739
December 2001
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Why not, Finnish is cool. I'd like to learn it, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
So I make my own language instead, Aoni.

Specter Phoenix
Member #1,425
July 2001
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The usage of ITS and IT'S depends on the sentence. IT'S, according to every english class I've been in for 13 years, means IT IS. ITS, according to my english classes, means ownership to the object that IT is pointing to. Of course that is just American (specifically Indiana english) which acordding to everyone that isn't American it's a dumb way of talking. The same could be said about Americans that don't speak a certain language. For example, when I learned Spanish I thought the way the worded sentences was kind of annoying and the way they spelled some of the words got to me too. That is my opinion though I don't get picky when someone messes up the language:P. It's not my place to correct someone or to piss and moan about little pathetic mistakes like that, but it is my place to learn to code and draw better so I can get into a faster mode to code games and do graphics for them quicker. So with that I'm off to code and draw both 2D paper and pencil art and pixel art.

Bruce Perry
Member #270
April 2000

Aha, so you do know the difference between "its" and "it's". Then your error in the other thread was inexcusable! INEXCUSABLE!!

... you are aware that you just said the exact same thing that I said in my first post, right? I mean, I don't usually read the whole thread if it's very long, but talk about skipping the first post!

;D:P:P

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Anomalous
Member #3,112
January 2003
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So what is the correct usage for the following sentences:

"Its easier just to accept that other people aren't as particular about grammar. Its simply a matter of removing the nipple clamp from your perineum."

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(EDIT - spelling/grammar/presentation/emoticons/content)

Bruce Perry
Member #270
April 2000

I only point things out when people make the same mistakes repeatedly and are otherwise good at spelling. That way, their games, and other polished work where spelling does matter, might be improved ;)

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA... ;D

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Mike Vox
Member #2,701
September 2002
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When I opened this post I was expecting to see...

"It's........ Monty Python's Flying Circus!"

Mike_Vox

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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"And NOW for something COMPLETELY different"

wanders off

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