I'm Christian.

(Going back a bit on the topic since I went to church this morning and missed quite a bit)

I have a very little chance of going to Church to tell the honest truth. If I do go, it's only once a week, Sunday morning.

But that doesn't make me a bad Christian, does it?

I believe you have to pray the Sinner's Prayer to be a Christian, and not just a Church go'er. I also don't define Christinanity as a religion, I define it as a relationship with God, and serving him (if God tells you to do something, like witness the "Word of God" to people, God will be with you to give you courage in the spirit and everything, heh. All you need is faith in God.)

I'll tithe whenever I can, i'll save that 10% of the money I recieve for years just to get it into that tithe bucket if I have to, heh.

Really, I want more people here to turn to Christ, but sadly it's thier choice to do so.

(BTW, If I do miss Church, I consider watching TBN (Trinity Broadcasting Network), heh.)

EDIT: 151 replies!!! Dang! Now I know why Matthew hates religion threads, because they eat his bandwith to death!

So on one hand you have my actions throughout my life, good or bad.

and on the other you have my belief in god.

And you are saying that for god this belief is MORE important than my actions?

Even if I was considered a saint but didn't believe in god I would go to hell? Where as I could be an average person who believed in God and just scrape into heaven?

Do you think this is right?

Sorry, but only a petty god would value a person's beliefs over their actions in my book.

23: Yea I have read it ^^, my friend reccomended it to me.

Maybe he mad man lonely so that he could appreciate god's presense more so than if he wasnt lonely.

Ive heard alot of pastors say that church is needed but it is in fact not. The bible says you only need to accept jesus into your heart to be accepted into the kingdom of heaven.

It is possible that god purposely made a "mistake" in order for people to believe in him more fully.I mean, its kinda hard to believe in something that makes no mistakes when many of the things in the bible seem to be mistakes.

just my 2 cents...

Chris
Say I am a christian, who is ignoring misery, etc etc. When I die will I go to heaven?

"Say I lead a very good life and I am NOT christian, helping everyone and trying to be a good person. When I die will I go to" heaven?

Personnaly, i think that if you lead a good life, helps ppl when you can, etc then you will go to heaven.Whatever is your religion. Simple isn't it ?

I've got a basis religious education : I've read the Old Testament some time after i've discovered Bob Marley (Lot of reference in his lyrics. in fact he is the one who give me real interest in reading that book, i dunno if i would have read that but i don't regret).

on the first topic : I dunno how to tell that in english so : "Mes parents ne m'ont pas batisé pour que j'ai un reel choix sur mes croyances et ma religion" (i think someone will be able to translate)

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Funny; all these questions and not one single e-mail or private message ...

I'm dumb!
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Funny thing Matthew never stopped it.

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This is better taken up via e-mail. Just ask Matthew I'm also saying it in anticipation of this thread's imminent demise. Plus with e-mail I can do some research and make more intelligent and helpful replies

ank 2: Now you're just trolling. For starters, you specifically twisted what SSC said. And if you get the impression from the Bible that God can't make mistakes, yet you admit the Bible says he does, isn't it your impression, and not the Bible, that's in error?

I don't think anyone else is trolling, and (most of) these questions are pretty simple, so just PM or e-mail (if you actually give a rip ) ...

I've watched this debate with some interest. For the record, I am someone who went through my life totally confident that god didn't exist and that it was all just a bunch of stories, that mutated to become religion. Then I read an article about the torah codes and my belief was severly shaken. This appeared to be the proof, that religion was valid and that the bible (at least the first few books of it) were all true.
Being very set in my ways and having been so for over nn years, I didn't rush out to church. But it's left me with the sinking feeling, that I may have backed the wrong horse.

The think that always amazes me with discussions like this, is that nobody has mentioned the codes. It's almost like religion finally got something it can scientifically claim as if not proof, then strong evidence and it's not slapping us all round the face with it. Weird...

I've looked at both arguments and found the stronger ones for the codes. As you said, it will be interesting. Just as interesting is that a lot of ppl have tried very hard to disprove them and not done a very good job of it. I know the whole subject is very speculative, but it has to be about 8 years ago when I first heard of them and the debate is still going on strong. We'll wait and see what happens, but just remember that I was "OK" and put in a good word for me

>> ank 2: Now you're just trolling. For starters, you specifically twisted what SSC said. And if you get the impression from the Bible that God can't make mistakes, yet you admit the Bible says he does, isn't it your impression, and not the Bible, that's in error?

1) I twisted nothing. Just saying it as I see it.

2) Its not an "impression", its a fact thats universially accepted by bible believers (including every religious leader I am aware of).

Atheist. I have no god but myself.

From the scientific and statistical side (the people with the knowledge to prove/disprove it), it has been completely disproved.
(you didn't read the link I gave you, did you? )

But the believers will continue to believe no matter what...