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Samuel Henderson
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August 2003
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bamccaig said:

That's cheap around here. The only thing cheaper is renting a room in an actual crack house. Fortunately, the place that I'm renting from is actually pretty nice.

I don't think that's that cheap. When my fiance was renting her apartment she was paying $480CAD/mo for a single bedroom, with utilities included (electric & water). Her apartment was kind of crappy though.

The two bedroom apartment where I used to live two years ago is going for 710CAD/mo today.

bamccaig said:

I'm planning to get a Roomba robot vaccuum so that I don't have to physically make time to vacuum the apartment. One that can run automatically on a schedule, perhaps when I'm away at j0rb, would be nice. They're not cheap though either. It seems you can get cheaper models for USD$300 ish, but their capabilities are very limited, forcing you to still do some of the work. It seems the USD$600-700 ones can pretty much do it all by themselves.

Advices/experiences with these specific items/brands and/or life itself appreciated. :)

We have a Roomba that was given to us by my parents. It's one of the higher end models that is supposedly self reliant. You set up a schedule (specify which days and what time it should vacuum) and it does the rest. It goes about it's business and when it's done it returns to it's dock and starts recharging.

Sometimes however it gets itself stranded under the couch, or tangled up in an overhanging blanket, or stops because it's dirt bin is full. It also doesn't like stairs, but if you get a good model it should come with two virtual walls which act as barriers. I'd recommend using one of the virtual walls to cordon off your entertainment system, the roomba can easily get caught by cables/wires.

For the most part we are pretty happy with it. Though like Matthew, it wouldn't take me that long to manually vacuum so I don't think I would ever actually buy a Roomba.

Edit: Fixed double negative!

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bamccaig
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It also doesn't like stairs, but if you get a good model it should come with two virtual walls which act as barriers.

I think they're supposed to detect stairs automatically. I think they have sensors in the front that they use to look down with and measure the distance. I can't say if that's a new feature or if it actually works, however. I was also looking into the little bit of competition that there is so many I'm confusing brands...

Have you actually seen it go over the stairs or what? :P

I'd recommend using one of the virtual walls to cordon off your entertainment system, the roomba can easily get caught by cables/wires.

Yeah, seems like a good idea. :)

Though like Matthew, it wouldn't take me that long to manually vacuum so I don't think I would never actually buy a Roomba.

Double negative alert!

I would guess that it would take at least 45 minutes to vacuum your house, if not twice that. :o

Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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the roomba can easily get caught by cables/wires.

I have trouble with cables/wires when vacuuming myself. Tie them into bundles with twist ties.

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Samuel Henderson
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bamccaig said:

Have you actually seen it go over the stairs or what?

I've never seen ours actually fall down the stairs but I have seen it go right to the edge when we accidentally forgot to replace the virtual wall after moving.

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I would guess that it would take at least 45 minutes to vacuum your house, if not twice that.

I can do upstairs in about 10 minutes, about 5 minutes for the main floor, and about 10 minutes for the basement. I'm not a cleaning fanatic though. I don't vacuum every square inch of floor regardless of it is dirty or not.

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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I'm not a cleaning fanatic though. I don't vacuum every square inch of floor regardless of it is dirty or not.

But then the pattern doesn't match (as in the special way they mow the baseball fields). It won't show up unless you have a fairly shaggy carpet, though.

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The carpet in my bedroom isn't shaggy at all, but you can still easily see where the vacuum traveled. Of course, moving bar bell weights around to vacuum underneath still shows the depressions where they were originally.

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Neil Walker
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I don't have any problems with cleaning or vacuuming. I have a wife who does all that :P

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Bob Keane
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June 2006

We have a Roomba that was given to us by my parents. It's one of the higher end models that is supposedly self reliant. You set up a schedule (specify which days and what time it should vacuum) and it does the rest. It goes about it's business and when it's done it returns to it's dock and starts recharging.

Does it use a litter box, or do you let it out? Obviously you have to use a dustbuster or similar to do the stairs, or are they uncovered? That kind of defeats the purpose of a Roomba?

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The two bedroom apartment where I used to live two years ago is going for 710CAD/mo today.

Just to throw more prices around, my 2-bedroom apartment in Calgary is $1200/mo. I split it with a roommate, but it's not much more square feet than my old $450/mo bachelor suite in Winnipeg. Decent place, mind, but still $1200/mo. :-/

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Mark Oates
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March 2001
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My place is $600/mo not including utils. The cheapest non-ghetto place (and Albuquerque has a pretty crime-ridden ghetto. They used to constantly be on COPS until the city had to ban the show from filming here.) is going to be around $580/mo. My last place was in the 'student ghetto' and cost $300/mo utils included. That was a very lucky circumstance that would have normally cost $475 utils included. And it was still the worst-looking house on the block.

And that's too damn high.

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Samuel Henderson
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Bob Keane said:

Does it use a litter box, or do you let it out?

It has an internal bin that it sweeps and sucks dirt into. When the bin gets full the Roomba stops in tracks and (quite loudly) says something like "Dirt tray full! Please empty dirt tray!". It does that for a few minutes and then it shuts off. When you turn it on again it repeats the message.

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Obviously you have to use a dustbuster or similar to do the stairs, or are they uncovered? That kind of defeats the purpose of a Roomba?

Yeah, it doesn't do stairs at all. We have a hand held dustbuster for them. We only do the stairs one a month or so...

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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It has an internal bin that it sweeps and sucks dirt into.

Somehow I read that as "It has an internet bin that it sweeps and sucks dirt into."

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Mark Oates
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Somehow I read that as "It has an internet bin that it sweeps and sucks dirt into."

I read an article yesterday about how "Postal 2" was too violent, dismembering people and burning bodies. I read it as Portal 2 and got pissed for about 30 seconds.

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ImLeftFooted
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October 2003
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type568 said:

In other words UK Gov, plans to place a cap on how much can an apartment be given for rent for, bypassing the free market? This will result in property to be simple unavailable for rent anymore .

Rent control has well known issues.
http://www.google.com/search?q=rent+control+issues+-represent

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I've heard some horror stories from down in Santa Monica. This dude owns a 5 unit complex and was renting them out. One of his tenants appealed to the city to get their rent lowered -- claiming structural damage.

The day before the government inspector came he ran the hose inside his unit, flooding the whole place destroying both the floor and outer deck area.

Now he's "out of the renting business." Or in layman's terms, he's on the black market -- the hoards of people desperate to find a place to live end up paying much higher rates.

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The natural consequence in a free-market economy is a reduction in supply and consequent shortages. Tucker has argued that rent control has the perverse effect of creating less affordable housing.

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Neil Walker
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type568 said:

bypassing the free market

I don't think so, what they're saying is currently there is no cap on how much money they give people to live 100% subsidised by the state and that has to stop.

As I said, that much money is enough to pay for a mortgage on a massive house almost anywhere in the country and so the average income person is being hugely penalised to pay for those who do not work and live on benefits.

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Bob Keane
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June 2006

Speaking of home ownership, I need a new furnace. My sister in law's uncle's brother in law just looked at it and gave me a few options. A 90% efficiency furnace would cost about $3000, not sure if it includes labor. The duct work would also have to be replaced, no price on that. An 80% efficiency furnace may cost about $500 less, but I would probably have to install a clay liner in the chimney. The joys of home ownership. ::)

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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Just make a campfire in the middle of the living room with your old code listings, it'll be fine.

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Bob Keane
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June 2006

Wishful thinking. I'm a wannabe programmer. BTW, this happened less than a mile from my home, and we have gas heat. I was sitting in my den when I felt the house shake. Spare change anybody?

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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That can happen if the relief valve on your water heater gets clogged. Stop being a wussy.

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Bob Keane
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June 2006

You're not going to say "Gas heat is a booming business in my neighborhood."?

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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I can't think of everything :) Thanks!

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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If you get a 90%+ efficiency gas/oil furnace installed by the end of the year, you get 30% back on parts and labor from Uncle Obama in forms of tax credit (maximum of $1500).

  • 90% = $3000 * 0.70 = $2100

  • 80% = $2500

Not sure which one I'd do. ???

Bob Keane
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I'm guessing $6000 installed. The 90% furnace will lower gas costs better, plus the advantage of not needing a chimney liner(?), and is impressive when I sell the house. I rent a couple of rooms so expenses like a new furnace or even a lightbulb are a write off. I think I only get a 25% allowance for that though. The problem is getting thte cash to replace the furnace. I think I can take a loan from a pension, but the money will not be available until next month.

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Mark Oates
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you get 30% back on parts and labor from Uncle Obama

Socialist. Why should I have to pay for your furnace? >:(

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Socialist. Why should I have to pay for your furnace?

Economically, programs like that are stupid. The market is able to determine what is more cost effective by itself.

There is no incentive to lower the cost of a high-efficiency furnace if the government pays the difference. Thus prices stay artificially high. Also, it introduces a false, bubbled demand that will disappear on January 1.



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