I have to admit that I heard left-wing criticisms of this film and judged it prematurely. I have begrudgingly begun to use Twitter in a limited capacity. A couple of days ago I saw a post by Elizabeth May (MP, and former Green Party of Canada leader) about the first time she was elected and the progress the Green parties have made in Canada since. There was an onslaught of ignorant comments in response to her post.

Many were pointing to this film as evidence that she is corrupt and bogus and that the entire Green movement is a lie. I was so infuriated I actually looked up Michael Moore's account just to comment on it. I tweeted at him, "Sell Out". It didn't quite sit right with me though, and I realized I was being a hypocrite because I hadn't even watched the film yet.

Tonight I sat down and watched it. And I have to say I was quite surprised. It wasn't at all what I thought it would be from what I had seen/read said about it. At it's face it all seemed legit. The claims that it makes are horrifying if true. Granted, some of what I had read were just that it was full of "half-truths". Which is perhaps one way of saying that the information in the film may be true, but it's not the complete picture. I think the only perceived harm that the film can do is give ignorant people an easy out of worrying about the environment.

In reality, the film isn't suggesting that we do nothing about the environment. Instead, it's arguing that what we're trying to do is wrong, and even more destructive than if we didn't do anything special at all. And there's certainly a logic to that argument if the points made in the film are accurate. The real talking point that the film makes though isn't that we can continue consuming fossil fuels without considering the implications.

Rather, the argument being made is that we cannot sustain our current way of life without fossil fuels, and that in order to save the planet we're actually going to have to make sacrifices in our luxurious way of life. Which I don't think is a new concept at all, but what is new is facing the reality that there may not be a magical green energy source to save the day, and instead the solution may be to scale back our consumption and revert to a simpler way of life.

Of course, it also points the finger at the culprit responsible for the destruction of our planet: capitalism and greed. And the surprising idea that perhaps all of the "green" initiatives that are being undertaken are actually being funded by oil & gas because ultimately they lead to even more dependence on oil than the dirty energy solutions did in the first place.

If you haven't seen the film I suggest you watch it. For those that don't know, it was released on YouTube for free by the filmmakers so you can legally watch it without any concerns for copyright or having to pay anything.

Insert: But also read this criticism of it: https://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/skepticism-is-healthy-but-planet-of-the-humans-is-toxic/.

P.S. I deleted my tweet on Michael Moore's account about 3/4 through the movie. I considered replying to it instead to out my ignorance, but I ultimately decided that it would be more harmful to the cause if I did that. It would just serve as fuel for political opponents, and it's unlikely it would actually be appreciated for what it was. Also, I have no followers and the tweet had not gained any likes or responses so it's likely nobody will even have seen it in the first place.

It used to be that (at least, parts of it). With the opioid crisis that's no longer true though. It remains a lot safer than the USA.

Well I'm glad you deleted your tweet. What did you think would happen? Yelling at each other over the internet, is by far the most ineffective and unhelpful thing that a person can do. Sadly, it seems to be all too common.

Here's an allegory in a vein similar to amarillion's statement:

So I was making a bot for an online game. I spent a year or two on it as a hobby, but I got tired of having to fix things because the games development company added a new features or broke things. It ended up being too stressful to maintain.

So I took what I had and made a video game. Complete control over everything. I've never been happier with a project I've worked on.

The point of the story is to spend less time focusing on things out of your control and more time on the things you can influence. I've never been happier. I used to debate things on this forum and now I just add my two cents when I think it's relevant and don't invest any time trying to argue with people.

Apologies for the derail then. I was just trying to offer some perspective.

Sometimes it is tempting to post something on twitter or other networks with some philosophical sense or comment that you yourself consider very intellectual. But knowing the hysterical monkeys that swarm in those places ends up being just a waste of time. (The screaming and the arguments come later, but it doesn't matter)

I remember talking to bamccaig about it 1 year or months ago, a lady who wanted to take on a green project in politics with an ostentatious title that I don't remember now. I have never believed it.

On the other hand, following the bamccaig thread, how do you intend to finance your green initiatives? I do not know anyone competent who in turn has the necessary resources to carry it out! Everything costs money, and the only way to get them is from someone else or something else, the best you could hope for is that people come to pay you with a huge initial sum, otherwise your project dies, and as you know No one is going to pay you shit, they all give a shit about you. That's when you turn to big, corrupt and polluting companies to finance yourself. That or resort to illegal means such as gambling, drug and arms trafficking, or any other easy money. And so I could continue with many more things, if you are intelligent, you will come to the same conclusion that I do, that the capitalist system only serves to control everyone's life, so that no one has power and they remain hungry.
In short, any initiative or project is destined to fail.

This is getting off topic, but I'll humor it for another minute.

Gangs are formed by desperate people with no other options. Poor people, often discriminated against by society and government. It's no surprise they group together, and it's no surprise that they use violence to achieve their goals. They don't have a peaceful option.

Early settlers and the Canadian government have been discriminating against aboriginals (Native Americans) since Europeans landed in America, and unfortunately the Canadian government continues to discriminate against them today. They have been physically, emotionally, and psychologically abused for generations. Yet the ignorant white men in office and in neighboring communities believe they're just lazy, and should get a job and work like everyone else. Ignoring the fact that there is still discrimination in the workforce and from the community, and ignoring the long-term impacts of the abuse.

Desperate people will do whatever they can to survive. Crime is one way to earn money when there are barriers to you doing it legally. Crime can be dangerous, however, and there's safety in numbers so it makes sense to form gangs. Hence, we have gangs of people committing crimes to earn a living and sometimes being violent either to defend themselves from society or from their business competition (other gangs committing the same crimes to make money).

None of this is surprising, and none of this is really their fault. The solution isn't to arm civilians so that we can kill them when we feel threatened by them. The solution is to help them out of this desperate situation that our ancestors and leaders caused. One simple way is to provide them a guaranteed livable income so that they do not need to commit crimes to afford comfortable housing, clothing, food, and medicine (whether that medicine is prescription or recreational, legal or "illegal").

And yes, taxpayers should foot the bill for that, and they should shut up while doing it. If these people need to smoke heroin to cope with the condition that we've left them in then so be it. We should offer them education and supports to avoid harmful drugs or to quit when they're ready to. Essentially, we should try to right the wrongs that we've done, and not blame them for the problems that we've cast upon them.

The same thing goes for black people in America. I'm not sure that black people are explicitly discriminated against by the government in Canada anymore, but certainly there remains to be discrimination in society, and many black Canadians are Americans that moved to Canada hoping to escape either violence or discrimination so many are still coming from a weakened position and therefore struggling. They have every right to be angry and it's no surprise that many are suffering. We need to show these people compassion and provide them supports to help them thrive.

A gang lifestyle is not a good lifestyle. It's unstable, dangerous, and chaotic. People do not commit crimes because they're lazy. Many crimes require just as much physical or mental exertion as performing a job would, and often for less or no pay. People commit crimes because they're desperate. The only way to fix those problems is to lift those people up. Shooting them just makes their problems worse.

And America has been getting worse. What you've been doing hasn't been working. It's time to change your strategy. That is, of course, unless this is exactly what you intended to happen. It's not by accident that aboriginals and blacks are over-represented in prison. It's discrimination. It's by design. If you seriously want to fix the problem then you need to address the causes of the violence. Guns are not the solution, and you'll never find me humoring that idea again.

Maybe if we took the guns away from law-abiding Americans they'd be forced to come up with constructive solutions to the problems instead of being selfish and worrying just about themselves.

Obviously Green energy initiatives need to be self-sustaining long-term. If the technology isn't there yet then so be it, but it's what we need to work towards. It's valuable to fund Green energy research because there is great potential in finding a solution. The fact that taxpayer money is being paid to "biofuel" plants that are nowhere near Green is infuriating precisely because that money could have instead gone to Green research.

Ultimately, a self-sustaining long-term Green power plant would be its own reward. There's no need to incentivize that. Even if it breaks even it would be enough to be publicly funded. If it's profitable on top that should be enough for any private investors to fund the project. Of course, we still have to prove that it can be done because it hasn't been done before (apparently).

I don't pretend to have the answers. I'm not a scientist nor an engineer. What I am is an activist, at best, and I do believe that it's in our best interest to reduce our consumption of fossil fuels. I do believe that the climate is being severely altered by human activity, and that we cannot fully predict the consequences of that, but we can already see it impacting the ecosystems of the planet for the worst.

If truly Green energy solutions cannot keep up with the current demand then I see no alternative other than humans being less greedy and consuming less energy. I do not believe that continuing on our same trajectory is sustainable forever. Eventually the climate will get so aggressive that it may wipe us off the planet. It won't mean anything to the cosmos. The universe won't flinch when we're gone. It only affects us. If we're satisfied going another 20 or 200 years and then becoming extinct then so be it, but I do not believe that aligns well with our instincts.

Future generations (our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren) will be ashamed of us if we do not do everything we can to keep the Earth as habitable as possible for them. If they are suffering for our greed then what does that make us? Our moral compasses tell us to provide for and protect our children whenever possible, even if it means making sacrifices ourselves. Will we be the generation to put our comfort ahead of our children?

I think I agree with you there. The economy is corrupt, and "capitalism" isn't working well. It is encouraging selfish greed, destruction of our habitats and the very natural world that gave us life, and think we should do away with it. It may have made sense at one time, and it has done some good things, but it has also done a lot of bad things, and I think that it's time has passed. We should begin to reshape our societies around the technology that capitalism has brought us. Technology will likely enable us all to continue to live luxurious lives (at least compared to those of our ancestors) WITHOUT destroying the planet. We may not have billionaires anymore, but do we really benefit from having billionaires in the first place? Extreme wealth appears to only really benefit a few people. It's not in our best interest to even allow that to occur.

I love orthodox liberals still believe that the only thing that makes criminals, is being poor. Nobody simply enjoys dealing drugs because it's easier than going to college. By that logic, nobody who can go to college drops out simply because they don't like it.

And then you forget that Mexican drug cartels are now in Canada. Mexicans aren't native Americans, and they're not native Canadians. They're Europeans. So even by "white supremacy" rules of the New Liberal Order, they're still the euro-centric, colonialist "bad guys" spreading their "basically white" culture to the natives. I guess we could ask the Mayans and Aztecs what they think... oh wait, they're all dead.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4829936/el-chapo-sinaloa-canada-dea-agent-claims/

https://torontosun.com/news/crime/100s-of-drug-cartel-members-have-entered-canada-since-liberals-waived-mexican-visa-report

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_in_Canada

Which, to those who can't read nuance even if its force fed them. I'm not crapping on Mexicans. I'm saying, "surprise!" gang violence doesn't care about national borders, nor does gun control or drug control, and the US violence is so high specifically because it bleeds in from the pseudo-failed state of Mexico. (Is the US to blame for them? Maybe? But that's a different discussion.)

Also side fun fact: Amish people in the USA/Mexico were found to be running a huge drug smuggling ring with plenty of murdering.

Probably because drugs offer more than free money, perhaps because consuming it excessively opens your mind and you acquire prohibited knowledge of the universe, just as piccolo did, and that is what the government wants to prohibit at all costs in fear of that they are dangerous to health and that in excess can cause death, among other lies. Although it can also be because as a medicine it is very effective and easy to plant and harvest.
About free money I don't change my mind. I do not think that supply and demand will make it cheap, because when it is legalized then many more will appear depending on the drug, then demand will grow much more, and in no way will it be cheap when it will continue to be bought expensive thanks to the vice and abstinence.

On how they are manipulated between rich and poor, I totally agree. Although I don't know if he will have said it among so many of my comments.

MESSAGE NOT SUITABLE FOR SENSITIVE PEOPLE:

@RmBeer2 consuming it excessively does not opens your mind. you need to be able to control your elevated state of mind and focus it on task.

you don't gain knowledge by just simply using it. in side of everyone's brain there is a Neural network of brains cells that constructs The knowledge of All (The tree of Life) what the Ganja dose is allows you to see things that you would not normally pay attention to because it has nothing to do with your immediate survival so your ID Brain(Satan)aka Subconscious does not bring it to attention of your conscious there for you can not consciously learn anything for those things(data) example something as simple as noting the the structure of the hair folicas on your arm feeling each one sway with each passing breeze. in nature there are many core concepts/laws that form creation itself. when you focus and logical study everything you come in contact with with a pure Righteous intent meaning you want to genuine learn and don't want to use what your learn to harm life instead wanting to help life those Core Concepts will begin to reveal themselves to you because of your Growing emplathy and pattern reconision. Those concepts begin to construct/pease together/ build / your Neural network (The tree of Life). The more Concepts you understand the faster you learn n^n. because your growing pattern reconision is able to identify those concepts from one study object to the next. this is how the time of understanding something new you are studying is cut drastically because by identifying concepts you already understand in an new object you know the functionally that they concept plays on the new object so your brain fills in that section of the puzzle as Programmer you all should know the power of a complete or even partially complete Neural network. you can through inputs at it and the answer will just fall right out.. This is Enlightenment awakening of the third Eye The eye Osiris.
http://egyptian-gods.org/

That is all i will post for right now. I will reflect to see if i should delete this later because the stuff i have learnt should not be shared carelessly because with each concept you learn come technology and the Wisdom of how and how not to use that technology. so i dont want to give someone the tech and they dont get the Wisdom because the tech was not reveled to them but given to them. this is how the Beast has implemented the current system we are under.
those who are slaves to their ID brain cant gain access to this Technology naturally however they control the current world and are the one using the tech for evil because they have enslaved those minds that can gain access to the tech.

so brush up on how to use truth tables Logical reasoning deduction ect because you have to preform these things in your head while debating with your inner voice(literally hashing it out with yourself in your head) like the monologue detective books\movies the Keys is your eyes understanding what you can see than relating it to what you can not see. until you dev tech/ablity to be able to see what you can not normally see.

Remember we are all Kings and Queens From the center of Africa the Kingdoms we oversee are not on the out side but on the inside so learn from the out side until you can use it to learn from the inside
King Piccolo

ps if i hide this in spoiler tags will it still show up on google search?

@Edgar Reynaldo , hahaha I will not argue about what is wrong. But it is obvious that this was just to manipulate a flock of monkeys with fear, which no longer makes sense to discuss whether or not it's wrong.

@piccolo , I only said it in a kind of joke, I can't verify that a drug overdose can open your mind, rather it can break your brain due to overload, that is more credible. About Ganja's brain I do not agree, I think that it is knowledge that is accessed globally as it happens with Akashic records, it is like a central computer that you access outside of you. And to feel and learn things, there are more reliable methods than drugs, such as mantra and meditation, which does not direct because of its effectiveness, but because of its strength, nobody can take it from you and you can invoke it with just thinking. This is something that some wise man whose name I do not remember has also confessed.
About the neural network I also have such knowledge, although I do not know if they are the same as yours, the only difference is that it was not given to me, but I have taken it, it was interesting at first, but I did not feel like applying or programming it. Well, from the beginning I did not have the power to protect it and I am always in an insecure place, even full of eyes everywhere, so it was practically impossible that I could secretly program it. Until I create a safe zone it is impossible for me to do anything considered important to others.
By the way, I'm not interested in being King or Queen, I'll leave that to you.
And it cannot be hidden from google as long as it continues to appear on the web, that is, it is only hidden visually, but in the HTML code it remains, it is like using a comment in HTML <!-- --> .

EDIT ======================

Another thing. This that I am doing, speaking in such a careless way, do not follow my example, it is bad for your health and you need to be more mischievous. The only reason I haven't disappeared yet is because they want me alive and intact.

@RmBeer2 seems you did not fully understand what i posted so that means it still coded to a curtain extant. so should not be a problem having it show up on google because the average mind reading it will most likely gloss over the information in it gaining nothing they are not ready to understand.

@RmBeer2I I saw it and I understand. how much do you know about them did you figure it out yourself or were you informed by some historian group? based on your conversation with the fellows above you have broken free but you did not chose the Righteous path so you have been demoralized by the current state of the world feeling that all is hopeless and there is nothing you can do.

with out the knowledge gained from choosing the Righteous path the same would have happen to me. with The knowledge i have gain i have the utmost confidence and you can too as a fellow wielder of Logic. let me know if you have whatsapp i will DM you my details so i can send you the information i have been compiling to aid others to awaken themselves.