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What is a soul/mind |
Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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Actually, computers do suffer from flipped bits time to time, and the manufacturers go to considerable lengths to minimize it. They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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This whole thread is worthless as it does not contain any wisdom whatsoever which would help me becoming a decent Starcraft II player. --- 0xDB | @dennisbusch_de --- |
Arvidsson
Member #4,603
May 2004
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You need to realize that you are not just your body and mind, you are apart of everything as we once were when the big bang happened. Realizing this you'll improve your micromanagement considerably.
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Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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Please elaborate. My mind does not seem to see any obvious correlation between that realization and its' effect on my micro. --- 0xDB | @dennisbusch_de --- |
Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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Save the next fingernail clipping from your left index finger, it has an atom from Betelgeuse within it. You might get a nickel for it. They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
Arvidsson
Member #4,603
May 2004
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Gladly. Through meditation (which noobs call practice) you need to learn that it is not about thinking about your units as external entities you need to control, but instead that the boundary between you and them is not that obvious. By focusing on not focusing, or rather, think less about what you need to do and more on what you don't need to do, cleanse your mind of objectives and realize that by seeing the whole the details will come to you without much effort. In this context meditation leads to action which comes naturally and without effort (reaction turns into proaction). I hope I have kept everything vague enough so that my advice seems wise.
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Johan Halmén
Member #1,550
September 2001
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What is awareness and is it possible for a machine to achieve awareness? I hope everyone agrees on that awareness is real and an existing "phenomenon" in the "real" world, whereas the existence of a soul is more dependent on a person's "religious" views of life. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Years of thorough research have revealed that what people find beautiful about the Mandelbrot set is not the set itself, but all the rest. |
Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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Arvidsson said: I hope I have kept everything vague enough so that my advice seems wise. Yup, I hereby hand you the "Wisdom Of Vagueness" achievement. Take good care of it and don't feed it after midnight. --- 0xDB | @dennisbusch_de --- |
AMCerasoli
Member #11,955
May 2010
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Arthur Kalliokoski said: This thread is worthless, so here's a picture of a dog. Hahahahaha I had not seen that "dog" before! Johan Halmén said: Please tell the difference between actual thinking and just thinking one is thinking. I Ain't gonna to tell you anything buddy... It's just a theory... Damn I should stop playing Red Dead Redemption.
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Evert
Member #794
November 2000
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Here's something to think on: the brain is not a homogeneous entity. It's an interconnected system with different components that handle specific tasks. This includes processing sound, video, feeling. Storing and retrieving from memory and pattern recognistion. So is there really such a thing as "you", or are there just lots of different "voices" in your head that may give you the illusion that there is really one (namely "you")? |
gnolam
Member #2,030
March 2002
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Tobias Dammers said: Because in order to predict the behavior of any system (in real time, or faster), one needs a system that is even more complex {{citation needed}} -- |
Trezker
Member #1,739
December 2001
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My belief tells me nothing is sacred. I'm free to do whatever I want, I have absolutely no responsibility for anything. It seems I have created a world with very rigid rules for cause and effect though and time seems to flow rigidly in one direction. I'm trying to figure out a meaning to life, so far I have been unsuccessful. But I will stick to this life as far as it'll take just to see what happens and while I'm here I may as well play the game as well as I can. Therefore I will try to do what I find gives me most joy. |
Johan Halmén
Member #1,550
September 2001
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Suppose the meaning of life would be discovered once and for all. Suppose it would be about achieving something. Suppose you'd achieve it at the age of 50. What the hell would you do after that? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Years of thorough research have revealed that what people find beautiful about the Mandelbrot set is not the set itself, but all the rest. |
William Labbett
Member #4,486
March 2004
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I've heard of a soul and a mind but never a soul/mind nor an apple/cow.
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Paul whoknows
Member #5,081
September 2004
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There is no spoon. ____ "The unlimited potential has been replaced by the concrete reality of what I programmed today." - Jordan Mechner. |
Arvidsson
Member #4,603
May 2004
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Trezker said: I may as well play the game as well as I can The game of thrones you mean? I like this quote: "He knows not where he's going for the ocean will decide. It's not the destination, it's the glory of the ride". Johan Halmén said: What the hell would you do after that? Find a new meaning? Must there only be one? Find a meaning in the meaningless?
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Mark Oates
Member #1,146
March 2001
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Dennis said: My mind does not seem to see any obvious correlation between that realization and its' effect on my micro. “Before enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood, carry water.” - Zen Proverb -- |
Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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There is no self. |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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There is no one. -- |
Arvidsson
Member #4,603
May 2004
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What is?
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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
Paul whoknows
Member #5,081
September 2004
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There is The One. ____ "The unlimited potential has been replaced by the concrete reality of what I programmed today." - Jordan Mechner. |
gnolam
Member #2,030
March 2002
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Mark Oates said: “Before enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood, carry water.” - Zen Proverb
Terry Pratchett - Thief of Time said: In the Second Scroll of Wen the Eternally Surprised, a story is written concerning one day when the apprentice Clodpool, in a rebellious mood, approached Wen and spake thusly: "Master, what is the difference between a humanistic, monastic system of belief in which wisdom is sought by means of an apparently nonsensical system of questions and answers, and a lot of mystic gibberish made up on the spur of the moment?" Wen considered this for some time, and at last said: "A fish!" And Clodpool went away, satisfied.
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Tobias Dammers
Member #2,604
August 2002
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gnolam said: {{citation needed}} Well, maybe not necessarily more complex, but in any case at least equally complex. Practical considerations would suggest 'more complex' though, unless we find a way to make an exact instant copy of the system in question. --- |
Ben Delacob
Member #6,141
August 2005
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FYI my previous post was with a few beers in me. Quite rambly. Anyway, it seems souls are quite frequently immortal supernatural entities we imbue ourselves with, essentially making ourselves gods. The mind is largely devoted to generating informational representations of the universe and creating responses for us to take in it. The mind is the abstract object corresponding to the brain. I suppose I'd say it's only those parts which contribute to consciousness: the cerebellum seems more a mechanical brain part. __________________________________ |
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