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Neil Roy
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April 2002
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I definitely prefer metric, especially for thing like temperature, I don't know how anyone could not understand it. Freezing point of water = 0c, boiling point = 100c... easyyy. How many meters in a kilo-meter? 1000, in a decimetre? 10. How many millimetres in a meter? 1000... all in units of 10, doesn't get any simpler.

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Neil Walker
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April 2000
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Here's an example of why it's good to use metric and imperial.

Me and my builder were building a wardrobe and just taking measurements for the size of wood to cut. One end was 50cm and the other 48.3cm. So instead, using the tape measure we noted down 50cm and 19inches. Much easier :)

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Every length should have its own name. Then we wouldn't need numbers at all.

type568
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March 2007
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@ML

Only justification for Imperial system is that people are used to it. It's far inferior, same as Roman numbers.

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October 2006
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type568 said:

It's far inferior, same as Roman numbers.

Umm... the Statue of Liberty has Roman numbers on it... are you against liberty ???

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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A jug of milk is exactly one gallon. That's easy. It's 3.78 liters. That's arbitrary! The metric system is silly.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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A jug of milk is exactly 4 liters. That's easy. its 1.06 gallons. That's arbitrary! The imperial system is silly.

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type568
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March 2007
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Roman numbers aren't practical as numbers: they can be used to emphasize unimportance of the number or something, but they're of very limited functionality. I'm fine with them used in books for numeration of parts but I'd be quite confused decide they numerate the pages using Roman numbers. It would be even more sad to try and measure some GDP with it.

Edgar Reynaldo
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May 2007
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Metric sucks balls for non-scientific purposes. Fahrenheit has much better delineations for measuring the range of temperatures suitable for human life than metric does. Below zero F? Too freaking cold. 32F? Water freezes. 70F? Comfortable. 100F? Too stinking hot. It's a perfect scale for human comfort.

It's also much easier to estimate a foot than it is to estimate a meter. Pounds beat kilograms, and MPH beats KPH, hands down.

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September 2001

A dejavu thread. Oh well.

Neil Roy said:

How many meters in a kilo-meter? 1000, in a decimetre? 10. How many millimetres in a meter? 1000... all in units of 10, doesn't get any simpler.

Thats only the 1st level of SI awesomeness.

2nd level:
mass: 1 kg
length: 1 m
time: 1 s
force: 1 N, which is what you need to accelerate the 1 kg chunk 1 m/s2
energy: 1 J, which is what you have used after moving the chunk 1 m, using 1 N force
power: 1 W, which is using 1 J/s

The list goes on with electromagnetism.

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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Fahrenheit sucks balls for non-scientific purposes. Metric has much better delineations for measuring the range of temperatures suitable for human life than fahrenheit does. Below -20C? Too freaking cold. 0C? Water freezes. 20C? Comfortable. 30C? Too stinking hot. It's a perfect scale for human comfort.

FTFY.

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Edgar Reynaldo
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type568
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March 2007
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It means Fixed That For You.

And I agree with the Moose, you think this shit is handy cos' you're used to it. I find metric a lot more comfortable PLUS it suits for scientific purposes. Generally for anything you need to actually apply thinking and calculation to, not necessarily science.

Neil Roy
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April 2002
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A jug of milk is exactly one gallon. That's easy. It's 3.78 liters. That's arbitrary! The metric system is silly.

Ummm, no, because if you were all metric you would get 4 litres instead. (or 3).

Here we well 2 litre cartons of milk, 1 litre cartons, 500ML (pints) and 250ML (half pints). And in Ontario we sell 3 bags sets of 1ltre each (3 litres) (I was surprised to find out that bag milk is an Ontario thing, hmph).

So, your thinking in Imperial still, when you convert to metric you buy stuff with even metric amounts.

Our chips are the same. I have a 300g (gram) bag next to me, it states imperial measurement as 10.5oz. We also generally sell 200G, 150G, it's all sold in nice even numbers.

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type568
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March 2007
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He was kinda kiddin'

Neil Roy
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April 2002
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You never know with him. ;)

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type568
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March 2007
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I always do: he is never serious. In order to be serious he's logging in to HER account.

Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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Roman numerals were what the 19th century hipsters used when they wanted to show off. I don't know if they still do it, but we had to learn how roman numerals worked in school too, if only to read when some crumbling old building was stuck together. Analog watches do fine with just dots.

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Neil Walker
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April 2000
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America doesn't use Imperial measurements, they use their own version of Imperial.

Girls are impressed by 8 inches, not 20cm. End of story.

type568 said:

It's far inferior

A gallon is 10 pounds of water at 62farenheit, how much more scientific than that can you get ;)

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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they use they're own version of Imperial.

Is that metric grammar you are using? ???

Neil Roy said:

And in Ontario we sell 3 bags

I've witnessed the bags of milk in Canada. Do we need any more proof that the metric system is silly? Only a follower of the metric system would buy milk stored in ziploc sandwich bags.

Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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But it's so much easier to buy varying quantities of milk, you can get millibags, decibags, kilobags, etc.

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Neil Walker
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April 2000
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Is that metric grammar

Damn, and I can't even edit the content and pretend you read wrong ;)

In another feat of metric madness, we correctly use mph not that silly kph nonsense in Europe yet when I did my motorbike exam last week I had to show I could do an emergency stop and swerve at 50kph (32mph) despite 30mph being the speed limit and my speedometer was in mph....

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Neil Roy
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I've witnessed the bags of milk in Canada. Do we need any more proof that the metric system is silly? Only a follower of the metric system would buy milk stored in ziploc sandwich bags.

LMAO... You have to try them to understand how great bagged milk is! :) I was surprised that Ontario is the only province that uses bagged milk. We're just so used to it around here, it's how most people get their milk.

Bagged milk in the pitcher... you just throw them in and cut the tip off one of the corners.
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And in the store... and it's 4 litres divided into 3 bags they come in, I think I said 3.
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Just a note: Those milk bags are a LOT tougher than ziploc storage bags. ;) I remember as a child when in an outdoor education class they taught us that using those milk bags to store items in when canoeing/camping was a good thing because if the canoe ever tipped over, they would float, plus being very rugged plastic they probably wouldn't puncture too easily.

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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I think you can get bagged milk out here still too. It was more common a decade or two ago than it is now, but I think you still can get bagged milk.

You don't actually want to get milk in a clear container though. Light kills/degrades man of the nutrients in milk.

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Neil Roy said:

Bagged milk in the pitcher... you just throw them in and cut the tip off one of the corners.

And then you have to find a cup to pour it in.

I just grab the milk jug by the handle and drink straight from it. That's the scientific way. >:(



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