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Dream was real...
Dennis
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July 2003
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According to some study, the most popular activity during a lucid dream is flying. On third place comes being a super hero.

What? You don't know what comes on second place?!?!?

Who said you can't have all three things at the same time? ;)

Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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The second most common lucid dream involves knowing what the second most common lucid dream is.

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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It's probably banging your neighbor's daughter or murdering your boss or something else people don't want to admit to. :)

I've been working on lucid dreaming since I took up hypnosis; so far I've been able to remember my dreams at all (which I haven't for years). I can induce the ability to lucid dream in other people though, which is such a gyp ...

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Neil Black
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October 2006
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Sirocco said:

Lucid dreaming is awesome. Next time, go flying.

It is awesome, unfortunately I can't do it. At least, not willfully. It was just that one time where it happened accidentally.

You were given a super dream, and all you decided to do was get your kitten back? You wasted a grand opportunity. >:(

No, the kitten coming back is what triggered my knowledge that I was dreaming. It happened before I had control.

Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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I sometimes have non-lucid dreams that I'm flying, but I'm too much of a wussy to climb more than 4 meters altitude. And it makes my arms tired, even though all I have to do is hold them out sideways. :P

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

piccolo
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January 2003
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I have some reseach from a while back about interfacing with the section of video memory used to draw the dream images that we see in are head.

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it would be sweet if i could make an allegro plug-in

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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piccolo said:

I have some reseach from a while back about interfacing with the section of video memory used to draw the dream images that we see in are head.

Some researchers already have a dream recorder.

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piccolo
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January 2003
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@Thomas Fjellstrom
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last i looked In those dream recorder document they where only "sniff" the bus signals i was looking into reading and wrighting to the actual memory location.

doing it there was they would have to use 5 sence stimulance to alter the images. there is a better was to doo this. example temparely overriding one of 5 sence and use the and a interface to the memory location

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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Why not just use the Allegro 5 mind-control interface?

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

verthex
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September 2009
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Why not just use the Allegro 5 mind-control interface?

With Java it would be possible to stimulate the senses.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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piccolo said:

last i looked In those dream recorder document they where only "sniff" the bus signals i was looking into reading and wrighting to the actual memory location.

Nah, they are actually starting to get pictures and video. Its far from clear and crisp, but its a start.

As for writing, keep your machine away from me >:(

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piccolo
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January 2003
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As for writing, keep your machine away from me

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I heard sony has a few patents on this. They must be the ones funding the research you saw. they must have made a better or finetuned the decriping algorithin and data base palet there were using.

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Vanneto
Member #8,643
May 2007

Nah, they are actually starting to get pictures and video. Its far from clear and crisp, but its a start.

Really? Care to provide a link? The only thing I could find was when a man saw a shape and they were able to scan what he saw by scanning the visual cortex. Even with primitive symbols like + and O the images were very blurry... So yeah, kind of hard to believe they have a dream recorder.

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Neil Black
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October 2006
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Link

The site says the research results were in the December issue of Neuron. Since WKU's library has that journal, I think I'll pop in later when I have time and read up on it.

Vanneto
Member #8,643
May 2007

Thats what I saw in a video. Scanning the visual cortex and recognizing letters (look how blurry they are) is very far from dream recording.

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Sirocco
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April 2000
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I've been able to have a few lucid dreams here and there, but it's very hit and miss. My daily mindset just isn't geared toward that sort of thing, so even though I generally remember 2-3 dreams per night, I don't have the overall awareness to realize I'm dreaming. Right now I'm averaging one lucid dream every two months.

I only went flying once. Usually I just summon a few friends and go hang out in a random location and goof off until I wake up. Once I get better at it I'll move on to more... inspired scenarios.

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Johan Halmén
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September 2001

piccolo, use / instead of \ in the quote tags.

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Neil Black
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October 2006
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I remember my dreams almost every night. It's interesting to note that even if I did have control I'd probably do pretty much the same thing as what normally goes on. My dreams tend to be very interesting.

james_lohr
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February 2002

I'm still doubtful about lucid dreaming.

I've had it frequenty, and emotionally I'd swear that I was fully conscious. However, when I later reflect on how illogically I acted, it becomes clear that I was far from my actual self. Possibly you're just dreaming that you're conscious of the dream, which is far from actually being there.

Does anyone else have sleep paralysis (or whatever it's called)? It's where you're aware that you're asleep, but you can't move or wake up. It's an absolutely horrendous experience. It most frequently occurs if I sleep during the day. Hence I now never sleep during the day in fear of it.

Another thing that I often "experience" in dreams are other-worldly emotions. For example, an intense emotional sense of something being ancient, or vast, or tragic. Sometimes they're so intense that I wake up feeling that reality is subdued, insignificant even. luckily the feelings never last longer than a few minutes though.

Vanneto
Member #8,643
May 2007

I've had it frequenty, and emotionally I'd swear that I was fully conscious. However, when I later reflect on how illogically I acted, it becomes clear that I was far from my actual self. Possibly you're just dreaming that you're conscious of the dream, which is far from actually being there.

There are differences between lucid dreams. You can become lucid in a dream or enter a dream conscious. The one you had was the former and these are most of the time like you described. You were probably lucid only for a few seconds and then forgot all about it or were just not focused enough (common problem). I like to say there are more levels of lucidity.

You can also practice a method called WILD (Wake-initiated-lucid-dream). With this method you wake up and lie down again allowing your body to fall asleep (going into sleep paralysis) while keeping your mind fully awake (by doing math, counting sheep) and as such are able to pass into a dream fully conscious. But this takes a lot of time and effort as it involves a lot of trial and error.

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Felix-The-Ghost
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April 2008
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In Popular Science magazine they had an article about how they were retrieving images from a man's brain and lower quality video too.

I've had one lucid dream that I remember, but all I did was fly. Funny thing is, I was flying in Super Mario 64's bonus level where you fly with the winged cap around castle towers. Apparently I'm hard to please (Although that kind of flying isn't exactly common) because I remember being completely ecstatic. By the time I was like (Hey I need to dream about something else) I either woke up or losed consciousness.

Also, if you ever lucid dream, do not ever look into a mirror. Your face can be horrifically distorted, turning your dream into a nightmare and/or losing lucidness.

They sell machines that beep and show a light when you have entered REM sleep, you can consciously recognize these to restore consciousness in a dream making it lucid.

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Sleep paralysis is freaky. It's only happened to me a few times.

I dream every night. Usually they are bizarre and uncontrolled. However, I am aware that I'm dreaming.

The worst ones are those that are illogical. I encounter some paradox and then back up and try again (and again...). I tell myself, "You are dreaming--wake up, you fool!" When I finally awake, I'm exhausted and hate myself a little bit more.

I also have recurring dreams where I cannot find my car (or some other item) and I spend all night looking for it, hopelessly trying to wake myself up before I go crazy.

Nested dreams are good fun too. After waking from the inner dream, I think I'm back to reality. Then I wonder what I'm still doing in Bizarro World.

blargmob
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February 2007
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Lucid dreaming sounds fucking awesome. I've just never been able to do it :-/

Most of my dreams are short, stupid, and completely pointless; 'cept for once I had a dream that my dad shot me 6 times in the chest with a handgun :o

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Felix-The-Ghost
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April 2008
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;D sorry :P
I often have dreams where I have some significant loss or gain and wake up to reality either seriously disappointed or seriously relieved.

Also a side note:
The earliest nightmare I can remember is seeing some gum laying on the sidewalk as a toddler/young child and I went to investigate and got 'eaten' by it. It sucked me in :o

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bamccaig
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July 2006
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The most exhaustive dreams for me are code-based ones (generally UNIX-y). These usually occur after a night or two of working on the command line for long periods of time. The dream takes place as normal (strange things happening, various ideas flowing into one another), except that I'm convinced that I "control" everything with commands. I end up exhausting myself trying to figure out the command to go and find somebody, for example. Or the command to open a door, etc. They can be Vim-themed as well. It's very exhausting, but also quite pleasant. I always wake up and try to remember what "command" I last had in mind (because I'm sure it'll work), but I never can. I'm sure they're not commands at all, but incomprehensible ideas.

I've had numerous lucid dreams. Flying is pretty normal. I've also had the opportunity to meet friends in dreams while lucid. I'd often find myself trying to find her and when I become lucid I am better able to do it (when I'm not lucid I generally have a hard time keeping up with her). Even though it's a dream, it still feels good to just see her again. Any dream with her in it is usually heartbreaking when it ends (or I lose her in the dream).

I seem to have a lot of nightmares lately. Not like clown nightmares. Everyday life nightmares. For example, people I love leave or die, or I hurt them in some way. Sometimes they're enjoyable nightmares, similar to how it feels good when a horror movie is truly terrifying.

I occasionally have dreams where I play the "hero". Not Superman, but selfless suicidal citizen that takes on the gunmen single-handedly, etc. Those are some of the funnest dreams, especially when lucid.

I'm not one to be afraid of dying in my dreams. I often get shot or stabbed or otherwise maimed (slow, painful deaths terrify me though). I've had people in dreams put a gun to my head and threaten me and (unaware it's a dream) tell them to go ahead and pull the trigger. :-X

Felix-The-Ghost, I know what you mean about the seriously disappointed or seriously relieved. Most of my dreams probably end that way. :P

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