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Multiple motherboards in one case under a single OS. |
Oscar Giner
Member #2,207
April 2002
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I see problems with the data wires. You cannot connect 2 input signals into the same place since both signals will collide. You'll need a controller to put between the psu and the motherboards that takes care of this (sends a power-off only when all motherboards are off and such things). I don't know if such controller exists, if not you can try to do it fourself with an FPGA or a PIC chip or similars. <edit> -- |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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I'm not convinced that's nesesary. There are no "data" lines on a Power Supply. If you were feeling generous you could call the "power ok" line a "data" line, but its a single bit (on or off), and never changes once the power levels have evened out after power on. If I had a use for such a system I'd probably whip one up myself. But I got a new quadcore box to run VMs on so I don't really need a bunch of separate systems. -- |
piccolo
Member #3,163
January 2003
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My i ask what trigger you to think of doing this? wow |
verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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piccolo said: My i ask what trigger you to think of doing this? Same as my question, what trigger you to question me?
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piccolo
Member #3,163
January 2003
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I though you was trying to invent somthing wow |
blargmob
Member #8,356
February 2007
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What a stupid idea verthex. --- |
verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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Blargmob said: What a stupid idea verthex. Thank you for your input loser, notice that everyone besides you everyone had something useful to add those this thread, and I suppose all those universities are stupid too, but you say "What a stupid idea verthex." which is something retarded stalker trolls do everywhere I've gone to on the net. Please refrain from replying back to me and thanks for wasting my time.
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blargmob
Member #8,356
February 2007
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verthex said: Thank you for your input loser, notice that everyone besides you everyone had something useful to add those this thread, and I suppose all those universities are stupid too, but you say "What a stupid idea verthex." which is something retarded stalker trolls do everywhere I've gone to on the net. Please refrain from replying back to me and thanks for wasting my time. BAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Please cry more. p.s. Proofread your posts. --- |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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blargmob, seriously you're just as stupid -- |
verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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blargmob said: BAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Please cry more. p.s. Proofread your posts. I really wish there was a way to block jerkoffs like you but this is not my site. I don't spend time proofreading posts for someone who is retarded.
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BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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blank stare at blargmob's avatar Anyhow, you can ignore people, right in the control panel on this site. But we're not supposed to talk about who we've ignored - ML has proclaimed that it is grounds for banning. |
verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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noted, thanks BAF!
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Ron Novy
Member #6,982
March 2006
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You could use a set of logic gates to control a single powersupply if needed and run them off the +5VSB (usually purple), but if your powering up to 8 boards then you might be better off with 8 cheaper lower watt powersupplies... Here is an old schematic I did using logic gates. It can isolate the motherboard signals from each other to control the PSU. Not sure if it works in real life, but it seems to function as intended in simulation. {"name":"599896","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/8\/b\/8bf482b1f560eb8fc279cdaaab564e97.jpg","w":652,"h":639,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/8\/b\/8bf482b1f560eb8fc279cdaaab564e97"} [edit] The capacitors are coupling capacitors. There should be on across the power pins of each IC. ---- |
verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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Ron Novy said: You could use a set of logic gates to control a single powersupply if needed and run them off the +5VSB (usually purple), but if your powering up to 8 boards then you might be better off with 8 cheaper lower watt powersupplies... Here is an old schematic I did using logic gates. It can isolate the motherboard signals from each other to control the PSU. Not sure if it works in real life, but it seems to function as intended in simulation. Thanks Ron, I'll try that for 2 boards and hope they won't fry! What do you mean that it works in simulation, is it P-Spice?
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Ron Novy
Member #6,982
March 2006
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The circuit was created using 'TINA'. You can download a free version called TINA-TI from Texas Instruments website. It basically works when run in a simulation under TINA, but I've never actually built the circuit. It should work though. My only concern was that it mixes TTL and CMOS chips. The circuit could probably be done in a simpler way. Maybe even just 8 diodes and a pull-up resistor from PS_ON to +5VSB... or maybe even without the pull-up resistor... I think the powersupply would have one internally... Anyway... I thought about it a long time ago, but never dove in to test anything... Just some ideas ---- |
verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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thanks, Ron. I figure the cost of 8 boards and Phenom II chips alone would cost 2400 USD. That doesn't include the cooling water blocks (misc parts), RAM, HDD's (or USB flash boot disks), and one really fast network card for the main node ~300 dollars. So I'd say the total cost with 8 chips, that can be overclocked to 4-6 GHz would be around $3500 USD with about 32 Ghz at the minimum with overclocking and with a high network transfer rate. Cross my fingers.
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MiquelFire
Member #3,110
January 2003
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You don't understand network booting, do you? With a network boot, you don't need any drives, just ram. --- |
verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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MiquelFire said: You don't understand network booting, do you? With a network boot, you don't need any drives, just ram. No, but thanks for the tip.'m basically trying to get the cheapest system for the most processing speed. This system will be used mostly for numerical methods, PDE's, etc.
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Get yourself some GPUs and some Core i7s. Or Xeons, preferably 6-8 core xeons. Quad proc mobos would be good too -- |
verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: Get yourself some GPUs and some Core i7s. Or Xeons, preferably 6-8 core xeons. Quad proc mobos would be good too Numerical computation is all CPU, so I would only need one GPU and AMD's are supposedly more easy to overclock than intel???
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ImLeftFooted
Member #3,935
October 2003
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Ah interesting. So the ignore list doesn't hide posts but it does block people from posting on your thread. |
verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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yes as a fan of Jim Jong, I too want a socialist thread and have power over my community , anyways Xeons are super expensive, does anyone know why?
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ImLeftFooted
Member #3,935
October 2003
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If a child is conceived in the same building as a 4 CPU x 8 core Xeon, will a communist dictator be born? The world may never know... |
verthex
Member #11,340
September 2009
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Dustin Dettmer said: If a child is conceived in the same building as a 4 CPU x 8 core Xeon, will a communist dictator be born? The world may never know... Nope, Kim was born before the processor or the intel x80 at least.
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BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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verthex said: Numerical computation is all CPU, so I would only need one GPU and AMD's are supposedly more easy to overclock than intel??? No it's not. I take it you've never heard of CUDA. If you're looking for quick and cheap box with lots of calculation power, I'd say grab some powerful video cards. |
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