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Mark Oates
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March 2001
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I'm thrilled to watch Obama squash McCain in the US presidential debates tonight. Does anybody know of a place to watch it live online? I don't want to hassel with installing my tuner card and all that crap if I don't have to.

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yozshura
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I as well am looking forward to this, but as for a site maybe http://www.c-span.org/ I'm not too sure where else. I'll edit my post if I do find out.

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nonnus29
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August 2002
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I'm thrilled to watch Obama squash McCain in the US presidential debates tonight.

Great!

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I don't want to hassel with installing my tuner card and all that crap if I don't have to.

Apparently not too thrilled. Luckily, most of Obama supporters are certain to display a similar level of commitment on election day and not show up to vote...

;)

Mark Oates
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yeah... nice selective reading there. I said I don't want to hassel with installing my tuner card and all that crap if I don't have to.

Like... I'm wouldn't go around yelling "Ima go and save our Americuh!" if I didn't know what the best course of action is. ;)

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nonnus29
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August 2002
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I think a REAL Obama supporter would go out and purchase a 60" plasma T.V. so they could view every pore on their idols face... :D

Mark Oates
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That would be pretty sweet. :P

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Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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For those in the UK who care (which is likely to be, what, me?), the debate is at 2 in the morning, live on BBC News 24, which can be streamed here, or via Zattoo.

EDIT: this just in, from an Obama press release: "According to the pundits, McCain's debating skills are unparalleled ... For a man known as a powerful speaker, Obama has rarely wowed people in political debates. He can come across as lifeless, aloof and windy."

It's called expectation setting, apparently.

Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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I'm expecting McCain to win this debate because he'll be equipped with a lot of good one liners and misstatements (i.e. lies). Obama will just counter with a well reasoned argument that will go over the voters' heads.

Trezker
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December 2001
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Debates have nothing to do with reason and logic, it's all about emotion and confusion. People don't listen to reason.

Mark Oates
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it's all about emotion and confusion

I'm hoping that Obama can keep things cool and hopefully hone the focus of viewers.

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Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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I'm expecting McCain to win this debate because he'll be equipped with a lot of good one liners and misstatements (i.e. lies). Obama will just counter with a well reasoned argument that will go over the voters' heads.

So do you expect McCain to win every debate?

Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Yes, I do if Obama continues to be Obama.

But it does depend on the debate format. If the moderators are on top of things and force them to actually say something of substance, then Obama has the advantage. If anything goes, then McCain does.

ReyBrujo
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January 2001
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Bush won the first time because he was like the pal you could meet at a bar, drink a beer and watch an football game. McCain does something similar during debates, he gives "Yes" and "No" replies to questions, the kind of answers people want. That is why I think McCain will win any TV debate (contrary to debates held at places where the audience has a higher IQ than the average, like in a University).

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Terry Cavanagh
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March 2008
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For people outside the UK or America, the only place I've seen it streaming online so far is MySpace... Anyone know of anywhere better I can watch this from Ireland? Is there a way to trick the BBC player maybe?

Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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I guess maybe connect through a UK-based web proxy? I've no idea how to do it in practice though.

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Yes, I do if Obama continues to be Obama.

Do you expect McCain to receive one or more post-debate bounces as a result?

Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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I don't care about national polls. And I don't care about this fascination with daily polls.

One week before the election it will be clear which states are in play and which ones aren't. I think it's going to come down to whether or not Obama can win a few southwestern states as I'm giving McCain Ohio and Florida.

nonnus29
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August 2002
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Yep, national polls are meaningless. Polling doesn't factor people that don't actually go vote.

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contrary to debates held at places where the audience has a higher IQ than the average, like in a University

You poor, poor, idealistic young fool.... :o

:P

Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Ha, McCain fell asleep before the first question was even finished being asked. :o

Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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But he did just recommend people visit a website. Who says he doesn't get the internet?

So far I think Obama is more closely answering the questions, McCain is doing better at hitting the "America is great" rhetoric. I'd call the first 17 minutes a draw.

Mark Oates
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March 2001
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17 minutes, A draw

Agreed.

This myspace player is nice. It has live polls like "do you agree with Obama's positions on this rebuttal?"

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Obama talks to McCain. Moderator pleads that McCain talks to Obama. McCain talks to Moderator.

Scared? :o

Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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Alas McCain has just suggested that the tax advantages in Ireland are likely to draw in business. Did he not hear that Ireland officially went into recession today?

To be honest though, I'm not very clear on what earmarks and pork barrel funds are, so this part of the debate is a bit lost on me.

Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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An earmark is basically getting a local project (e.g. Obama for Chicago) funded via an unrelated popular bill.

Mark Oates
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March 2001
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festuned. :P

McCain is being pretty agressive.

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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As I predicted, McCain is breaking out complete lies. It's smart—people don't care about facts.

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