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Bob Keane
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June 2006

Off topic, I know. Hoho, thanks for the advice, but I use FC4. The repositories won't update until I go to FC5 or 6. Not sure I want to, comfortable where I am.

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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Yeah, stick with your old buggy out of date software. just don't complain :P

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BAF
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December 2002
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Wow, RedHat sucks more than I thought. They don't put FF in the old repos? WTF

By the way, you can probably find another Yum repository with updates or download Firefox manually to update it.

Bob Keane
Member #7,342
June 2006

RedHat doesn't suck any more than Microsnott. I'm sure if you wanted the latest version of IE for windows 95 you couldn't find it. Like I said, I'm using Fedora Core 4, which is the generational equivalent of Windows 2000.

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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Wow, RedHat sucks more than I thought. They don't put FF in the old repos? WTF

You sure are stupid.

FF is in their old repos. But every so often they need to stop supporting/maintaining 5 year old versions of their FREE distros. I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure RedHat isn't made of money. And besides, even MS drops maintenance of Windows after 5 or so years.

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BAF
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December 2002
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I mean, they don't keep updating them? The repos should have a similar base across distros, allowing common updates like FireFox to occur.

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I'm sure if you wanted the latest version of IE for windows 95 you couldn't find it.

I beg to differ.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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I mean, they don't keep updating them? The repos should have a similar base across distros, allowing common updates like FireFox to occur.

Um, why yould a 5 year old version of a distro be so similar just any package will work across versions? Honestly?

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I beg to differ.

Have you tried lately? Using windows update (the parallel to RedHat's repos). I believe even w98 windows update is no longer available, and MEs is coming soon if it isn't already gone. Oh sure, you might be able to get the bug fixes you missed installing, for the versions that do work, but for at least 95, it won't even let you in iirc. (my dad has a 95 osr2 machine, and a 98 machine, both of which I've had the pleasure of administering).

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MiquelFire
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January 2003
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So BAF, how do you install IE7 on Windows 95?

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CGamesPlay
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July 2002
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So BAF, how do you install IE7 on Windows 95?

Well, continuing the FC4 analogy, you download the source and do ./configure && make && sudo make install ;D

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ImLeftFooted
Member #3,935
October 2003
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Ah! My console told me its reporting me to the administrator!

Big brother is watching me!

Why oh why didnt I use su -c :-X

CGamesPlay
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July 2002
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Because sudo is more convenient and doesn't require giving out the root password ;D

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ImLeftFooted
Member #3,935
October 2003
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Yes but then the evil Big Brother linux communists will get you!

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On mac's i always do sudo bash because no one actually knows their administrator password and they're always on the wheel ;D

BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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Well, the latest version FOR Windows 95 would be the last version available for it, and you can go to oldversion.com or something.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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Too bad thats not what you were talking about now is it :P

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Kitty Cat
Member #2,815
October 2002
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Because sudo is more convenient and doesn't require giving out the root password ;D

Yeah, so anything that can get your normal user account doesn't need to bother with that pesky root password and can just take root access rights ;)

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CGamesPlay
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July 2002
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Yeah, so anything that can get your normal user account doesn't need to bother with that pesky root password and can just take root access rights ;)

Or, on multi-user systems, you don't have to freely give out the root password to all those wheel users ;)

Also, sudo does ask for the user password: you still need to have that.

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Bob Keane
Member #7,342
June 2006

Thomas, HoHo and anyone else who extolls the virtue of Firefox 1.5 see:
http://allegro.cc/forums/thread/589923

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BAF
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December 2002
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What? That's not a common problem, and it is more likely to happen in FF 1.0 or 1.5 than in the newer 2.0, 2.0 has newer bugs which would happen. ;D

Michael Jensen
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October 2002
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So BAF, how do you install IE7 on Windows 95?

You can't but that has nothing to do with

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I'm sure if you wanted the latest version of IE for windows 95 you couldn't find it.

-- as IE7 is not the latest version of IE for windows 95...

Anyway, I've found that the more tech-savy people get, the less likely they are to use myspace (or work for them), so there's kind of an inverse-corelation going on, yes?

So it's simple why you're the only one who has found it...

Also, in my Firefox, a box is checked automatically that says to warn me if a site tries to install software, and I'm running 2.0.0.1.

Also, they might have not asked you, because they're suffering a lot of heat from some higher up about the suspect vulnerability, and either have no way of contacting you (possibly an issue of protocol), or don't want to contact you because of pride.

Myspace is horribly designed also -- when someone saves their profile, it saves to a huge clogged slow database... IMO, they should render HTML pages once per edit, and then the server could easily send out pages it needed to. Instead of waiting 5 minutes for a freaking profile to load half of the time... if they had any dynamically changing content like ads etc, they could be generated using shtml includes...

CGamesPlay
Member #2,559
July 2002
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MySpace is just fixing all the Internet's problems!

Source

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users on IE can't view pages - 02/05/2007

When navigating the site, you might view this notice:

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage Most likely causes: You are not connected to the Internet. The website is encountering problems. There might be a typing error in the address.

...sit tight, we're working on it!

[append]

Two days ago (two business days after I submitted the ticket), I email this response:

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To: MySpace Contact1 <mscontact1@myspace.com>
Subject: Re: MySpace - Error on Site

You seem to have misunderstood. This is not a complaint of the
functionality of the web site, this is a critical problem which gives
a malicious user the capacity to recreate the samy worm of October,
or, worse, harvest user login information. Please provide me with a
technical contact so this issue can be resolved.

The issue in question is a still-unresolved vulnerability (as of 8:30
EST, Feb 6) allowing JavaScript to be inserted into any HTML input on
the site and, on Internet Explorer, executed without user action.

Of course, I haven't received a reply yet so I am creating another ticket--err, emailing customer support using their form. Let's eagerly await their reply.

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In response to a ticket created 6 days ago, where I reported,

>A vulnerability exists in the way in which MySpace handles profiles that could allow a malicious user to insert JavaScript into their profile. For details about this vulnerability, please contact me.

I received the response,

>Hello,
>
>That issue is currently being resolved. Please be patient.
>
>Thank you,
>
>MySpace.com

I did not receive a reply when I contacted the reply-to address in the email. The vulnerability I described still has not been fixed as of 9 AM Feb 8, it allows JavaScript to be inserted into any HTML input on the site and, on Internet Explorer, executed without user action.

This is not a complaint of the functionality of the web site, this is a critical problem which gives a malicious user the capacity to recreate the samy worm of October, or, worse, harvest user login information. Please provide me with a technical contact so this issue can be resolved.

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Billybob
Member #3,136
January 2003

Go ahead and give me details on the exploit and I'll get them to fix it ;) They work fast with a worm on the loose.

BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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-- as IE7 is not the latest version of IE for windows 95...

It comes down to how you interpret it, I guess.

latest (version of IE for windows 95)
vs.
(latest version of IE) for windows 95

HoHo
Member #4,534
April 2004
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Btw, does latest FF works on <=win98? Some time ago there were talks they would cut the support to make code simpler.

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Firefox 2 stopped working on Windows 95 after a bug fix patch was applied. As far as I know, they did not do anything to "remedy" that. So it would follow that they now are making use of 98 only features when it helps.

Whether or not IE or Firefox runs on unsupported versions of Windows is basically irrelevant. No one should be running an unsupported operating system to begin with. They have other larger issues to worry about other than running the latest version of a web browser.

Michael Jensen
Member #2,870
October 2002
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They have other larger issues to worry about other than running the latest version of a web browser.

Well said.

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latest (version of IE for windows 95)
vs.
(latest version of IE) for windows 95

When you don't apply parends, you read from left to right.

ex: 6-5+4 == (6-5)+4 != 6-(5+4)

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users on IE can't view pages - 02/05/2007

When navigating the site, you might view this notice:

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage

Most likely causes:
You are not connected to the Internet.
The website is encountering problems.
There might be a typing error in the address.

...sit tight, we're working on it!

Ummm, no, that's not what I meant.

I meant that when Myspace does work, pages take damn near 3 minutes to render.
Also, a lot of times, pages don't work -- you'll click on home to go to your profile, and if it does ever load, it comes up with "An unexpected error has occured" -- as if they were expecting some errors but not others, or what? >:(

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