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Holes in Vista already? |
Rampage
Member #3,035
December 2002
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Last time I checked, to get a speech recognition program working you had to configure it to recognize your exact voice pitch and tone, which made it difficult for others to use the program. Can Vista's speech recognition software understand anyone? -R |
Richard Phipps
Member #1,632
November 2001
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It's not really a bug is it? It's just two pieces of technology which have 'converged' in an unfortunate way. |
Thomas Harte
Member #33
April 2000
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I think it's probably a bug when the microphone is acting on the sounds coming out of your own speakers — as that's definitely not a wanted behaviour (if the user can make the sound play, they can do whatever the command is more easily) and is one that an alternative algorithmic approach could have avoided (by cancelling the output from the input, as the computer knows both). Anyway, I'm an OS X user nowadays and I haven't tried Vista but I'm generally in favour of it. I switched "permanently" because I find much of OS X a major benefit for my productivity and Vista will effectively add a lot of those features to most other computers on the planet. I'll probably get a copy to run in Parallels or Boot Camp... [My site] [Tetrominoes] |
Richard Phipps
Member #1,632
November 2001
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Would subtracting the output sent to the souncard from the microphone samples avoid processing the speaker output? |
Bob Keane
Member #7,342
June 2006
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The latest Linux Magazine rant. http://www.linux-mag.com/id/2889/ I would say it was Wndows hater propaganda, but the latest Mac "I'm a pc/I'm a Mac" commercial alludes to the same theme. I am a Linux, BTW. By reading this sig, I, the reader, agree to render my soul to Bob Keane. I, the reader, understand this is a legally binding contract and freely render my soul. |
Rampage
Member #3,035
December 2002
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Quote: I am a Linux, BTW. Okay, how many allegators are real humans? I mean, ML is a bot, Bob "Reebot" is an A.I., Bob Keane is an operating system... -R |
Thomas Harte
Member #33
April 2000
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Quote: Would subtracting the output sent to the souncard from the microphone samples avoid processing the speaker output? It couldn't be as direct as that because of the delay between output and input (which is probably at least a few hundred ms, allowing for latencies in both directions) and the imperfect reproduction but the fact that the computer knows the output and the input is enough. For example, it could run a voice recognition analysis on all sound output and if it recognises any commands, then ignore any of the same commands coming in through the microphone within the next second or so. I'm not sure how feasible that is in processing terms, but I don't think speech recognition is expensive, I think it's just hard. [My site] [Tetrominoes] |
LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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The solution to the problem is use a cheap microphone. Voice recognition with mine fails if you're not speaking in to it from the correct direction.
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Jakub Wasilewski
Member #3,653
June 2003
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Quote: Voice recognition with mine fails if you're not speaking in to it from the correct direction.
You, dear Sir, have just invented the new Vista-Enabled Microphone - a vital part of every new computer purchase Of course, it won't be cheap anymore. --------------------------- |
LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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I'd better patent the idea now, before someone else does...
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ImLeftFooted
Member #3,935
October 2003
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Vista is really cool. Mostly because they ripped just about every single little thing from Apple. But hey, Apple probably ripped it from someone else who ripped it from someone else. Eventually all creative industries just mimic the music industry... What I find really funny is the Loading screen. Apple has a bunch of little lines shooting out making a circle that have variable boldness that sort of rotates around them. Vista has the same thing but it uses a circular gradient instead. Shesh. Vista now has a gadget system thats pretty much straight ripped form Apple. I could go on for a while. |
Kitty Cat
Member #2,815
October 2002
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Thomas Harte said:
Quote: Would subtracting the output sent to the souncard from the microphone samples avoid processing the speaker output? It couldn't be as direct as that because of the delay between output and input (which is probably at least a few hundred ms, allowing for latencies in both directions) and the imperfect reproduction but the fact that the computer knows the output and the input is enough. It may not, though. In the case of pass-through or hardware decoding, the OS has no real idea about what's being played on the speakers, unless it decodes itself which kinda defeats the purpose of pass-through/hardware decoding... -- |
Francois Lamini
Member #7,791
September 2006
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Dude, you cannot just change the drivers when only Microsoft has access to them and how do I know a soundblaster will work with my Dell computer. Francois |
BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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What are you talking about? You can do whatever you want with drivers, and if you have a PCI slot, a soundblaster will work in your computer. [edit] |
HoHo
Member #4,534
April 2004
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I read some story somewhere that in Northern US, less than 10% of PC's are capable of Aero. Non-aero Vista should run on around 30% of PC's. Unfortunately I can't find that article ATM __________ |
OICW
Member #4,069
November 2003
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Well I think that my laptop is not Aero capable, since I have only 512 MB RAM shared with gfx. Of course I can buy an upgrade. But for the time being it's enough for me. Anyway I'm not going to install Vista to my notebook at all - never. [My website][CppReference][Pixelate][Allegators worldwide][Who's online] |
ImLeftFooted
Member #3,935
October 2003
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Vista w/o aero is pretty plain. |
Goalie Ca
Member #2,579
July 2002
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I don't think i'll ever upgrade to vista. I find even if you ignore all the OS troubles etc... there's still not a good environment to work in and there's really not all that much software. Welll... there's tons of software if you include stuff you have to pay for but if you don't want to spend $500 there's a lot less than on a linux system. Also that noisy hard disk in windows drives me nuts. I've defragged and everything and no.. it's not anywhere near capacity. I figure its just the NTFS lays out the files so the drive head has to move a lot more. ------------- |
Steve Terry
Member #1,989
March 2002
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I took a peek at Vista this morning, nothing really special other than Aero which makes the interface look pretty spiffy but yeah a lot of things ripped off from Mac. I also noticed that for about two weeks Best Buy and seemingly the rest of the world ran out of PC's to sell due to the ramp up for Vista. So strange walking in an seeing absolutely NO PC's on the shelf. Still there were plenty of laptops at Best Buy today that were running EXTREMELY choppy just playing a simple video clip. That and the high end machines with dual core processors, 2GB RAM, and Nvidia 7300 chipsets didn't run everything perfectly. I guess this was on the machine with the 24" widescreen monitor so I think the high resolution had something to do with it, the one next to it with about the same specs but a 7600GT and smaller resolution ran pretty smoothly. I still found no compelling reason to jump out and upgrade to Vista, I'll wait at least 6 months before looking into Vista again, should be enough time for hardware and drivers to mature enough. ___________________________________ |
BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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Quote: Well I think that my laptop is not Aero capable, since I have only 512 MB RAM shared with gfx. Of course I can buy an upgrade. But for the time being it's enough for me. Anyway I'm not going to install Vista to my notebook at all - never. I put Vista RTM on my laptop, and my battery life went from around 3.5-4 hours doing idle-cpu-work to about 2, maybe 2.5 hours doing the same type of work (surfing the net, typing, etc). |
Evert
Member #794
November 2000
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So let me see if I got this right. Windows now has the flashy GUI that MacOS X has had for the past five years, and requires a top-of-the-line new computer to use it? |
LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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Quote: So let me see if I got this right. Windows now has the flashy GUI that MacOS X has had for the past five years, and requires a top-of-the-line new computer to use it? That sounds like the conclusion I came to.
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Quote: I figure its just the NTFS lays out the files so the drive head has to move a lot more. I came to the same conclusion after doing some defrags and game installs, and finding that even with a perfectly defraged filesystem, NTFS will place game files all over the place, meaning you need to do a "space optimization" defrag right after an install -- |
OICW
Member #4,069
November 2003
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Evert: wait a moment I need to think about that hard ... mmm ... yes Quote: I put Vista RTM on my laptop, and my battery life went from around 3.5-4 hours doing idle-cpu-work to about 2, maybe 2.5 hours doing the same type of work (surfing the net, typing, etc). Ops, I suppose it was w/o Aero. That definately sucks. My battery life is ussually around 3 hrs, 3.5 when I decide to torment my eyes and do only surfing/typing. So another nail to the coffin for Windows "Vendetta" for me. (I really need to sit down and finally configure that SuSe 10.2) Edit: I suppose that Windows Vista won't natively support Ext3 partitions, right? [My website][CppReference][Pixelate][Allegators worldwide][Who's online] |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Quote: I suppose that Windows Vista won't natively support Ext3 partitions, right? The fsdriver package worked fine on one of the betas for me. But really, no not out of the box, and that package only does ext2, so you don't get journaling. -- |
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