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NEWS: George Bush has been assasinated |
Johan Halmén
Member #1,550
September 2001
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I KNOW WHERE SADDAM AND USAMA ARE HIDING! Manjula said: I am not dead. and how dare u compare my death to George Bush's death!
I think most of us would rather see GWB assassinated than Manjula. Quote: Hey, come on, in a recent survey 70% of Americans thought the United Kingdom was 'somewhere in the middle east'. I guess they might find UK on the map, but they haven't the slightest idea of what middle east stands for. Back to Saddam & Usama. Well, this is so obvious that someone must have figured this out already. They are hiding at the Iraqi WMD base. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Years of thorough research have revealed that what people find beautiful about the Mandelbrot set is not the set itself, but all the rest. |
manjula
Member #3,569
June 2003
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Quote: I think most of us would rather see GWB assassinated than Manjula. (Is this the smiley wondering whether this was a nice thing or bad thing to say?) of course it's a nice thing to say. George Bush has got nothing on me, girlfriend! |
IronBob
Member #3,248
February 2003
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Ace: i love to give a completely biased and un-thought rant sometimes too. |
Ace
Member #1,781
December 2001
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Biased?! Un-thought?! Whether or not I'm biased towards it and came up with it in a minute doesn't mean it isn't any less true! Ok, so maybe the Bush sucks statements were pure opinion, but if every state voted on a "Bush Sucks" bill, then 47 states would likely approve it. Those not approving would be Texas, Alabama, and Arkansas (my home state). - Ace |
IronBob
Member #3,248
February 2003
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we don't need a president that is a genius, we need a president that is a leader. george bush is just that. just because he came into office right in time for a major terrorist attack and foriegn threat doesn't mean he is a bad president. no he's not another JFK, but he is our president and he needs our support because he is. and i can guarentee you that 47 of our 50 states would not pass an "our president sucks" bill. that is just another biased opinion of yours. |
X-G
Member #856
December 2000
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Guess what? Hitler was a pretty good leader. He came in right in time after a major economic recession in Germany following WW1, and instated many social reforms, many which benefitted the people. Does this make him a good guy? -- |
IronBob
Member #3,248
February 2003
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no you see ... hitler would have been good if he had stopped at minor "reforms". going beyond to the destruction of the jews, the perfect race, war, and the killing of all of those people was what made him evil. do you see thousands of jews a week being shipped off to camps in the middle of Nevada by Bush, hell no. being a leader is only one of the things that makes Bush a good president. |
23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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Quote: do you see thousands of jews a week being shipped off to camps in the middle of Nevada by Bush, hell no. Well, maybe not Jews cough*Guantanamo*cough -- |
IronBob
Member #3,248
February 2003
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Guantanamo is not a concentration camp for a segregated religious, racial, or political group. it is a prison camp for Al-Queda prisoners ... AKA prisoners of war. [edit] i quote an article on Guatanamo: Quote: Each prisoner has been given: US army standard-issue 2cm-thick foam sleeping mat, one blanket, two buckets, a one quart canteen Breakfast - typically bread, cream cheese, an orange, a pastry, a roll, a bottle of water Breakfast followed by shower opportunity and personal time Sunny with temperatures ranging from 22C at night to around 28C maximum during the day ... does that sound alot better than being severely over-worked, barely fed, tortured, and eventually killed and cremated? |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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I'm sorry; when were we at war with Al-Queda? I don't recall that. In any case, the war is over. I've read quite a bit of how they're breaking the Geneva convention over there. If this makes Bush better than Hitler, it ain't by much. -- |
IronBob
Member #3,248
February 2003
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hitler's judgement of a POW was severely twisted. the jews were in no way in a war. they were innocent civilians. remember anne franks father anyone? ya, he served as an officer in WWI for germany ... look what almost happened to him. anyone who thinks a former officer of your own army, a father of 2, and a current business man is a prisoner of war has got a really ****ed up mind (in other words hitler). [edit]i can't believe you compare Bush to hitler.[/edit] |
23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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There are innocents in Guantanamo too. And the treatment is far from fair; do a search for Guantanamo on Google news. I read a long article from a reporter there that was pretty damning; if the GameDev Politics forum was still up, I'd go find it. Here's a quickie from Google News: Quote: The plight of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay is a scandal. They were captured during the allied invasion of Afghanistan, where the Taliban harbored al Qaeda terrorists. We Americans have a right to fear and hate such jihadists. We have refused to consider them prisoners of war, subject to the Geneva Convention. But we do not have a right to incarcerate them without charges or access to attorneys. This, in fact, is what we are doing. Nor, as British Prime Minister Tony Blair insists, do we have a right to hold citizens of other countries under such circumstances. Americans have a clear self-interest in complying with international agreements protecting non-citizens. U.S. citizens face arbitrary imprisonment somewhere almost every day. American presidents from John Adams to Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Delano Roosevelt have violated the civil rights of groups they believed threatened the nation's security. The Supreme Court has usually gone along. In almost every case hindsight has found these violations a mistake. Some have led to reparations. In the case of the Guantanamo prisoners, the court has simply ruled because we leased the base from Cuba, the prisoners did not enjoy civil rights under the Constitution. This is not good enough. The war on terrorism is terribly important, but the Guantanamo conditions should be corrected, before it is too late. Al Qaeda and other Islamist terrorists want nothing better than for us to suspend our own freedoms. Some hearty soul on Capitol Hill, or on the presidential campaign trail, should find the courage to challenge the Bush administration on this situation. He or she will go down in history as a voice of reason and right thinking. And I'm hardly the first person to compare Bush to Hitler; in fact, I'm not even the thousand and first. I know people who are planning on leaving the country if he gets a second term. -- |
IronBob
Member #3,248
February 2003
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you can also find a piece of article above that describes guantanamo, also pulled from google. |
23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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See edit -- |
IronBob
Member #3,248
February 2003
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how do you think the american prisoners are being treated? |
X-G
Member #856
December 2000
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We're not saying they're any better, and that's not even relevant. -- |
Blade Nick
Member #1,597
October 2001
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Huh, well if what you ppl said about hitler and killing jews and bush and not shiping them means evil and good. Then Australia is the evil of all evils as we constantly deny ppl a safe life and are always shooting at oncomming refugee boats with big onshore cannons(Exaguration)
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23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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I heard someone make a good point not too long ago; the only way a dictatorship succeeds is if the people living in it think they're living in freedom. I'm not ready to say Bush is as bad as Hitler (a stretch, to say the least) but I'm going to be keeping a very close eye on next year's elections ... -- |
Blade Nick
Member #1,597
October 2001
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A wize man once said to me "If you know that you dont know, then you are smart but if you are unware of what you dont know then how can you know what to know" It makes sense if you look at it and is a good idea. But me being an outsider to you Yanky(Americans) culture I cant really have a say but all I know is that I hear of ppl who dont like Bush but perhaps that is only caus there is few of them trying to make a noise so they can get others to join the club.
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Ace
Member #1,781
December 2001
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That "Bush Sucks" bill thing was just a JOKE, btw. And comparing Bush to Hitler is not fair... for Hitler. Bush is just as evil as Hitler; however, there is no one willing to admit it. Sure, Bush may not have committed mass genocide, but he set the record for the most executions of any governor. It's the same thing on a smaller scale. Capital punishment is just as wrong as any other form of murder. Bush wants to open up the oil fields in Alaska which would effect the enviornment up there when we have plenty of oil coming from Texas. Plus, totally destroyed the quality of Texas' enviornment during his term as governor. I'm not sure about Hitler's concern for the enviornment, but I don't think it could have been as bad as Bush's. And that is just the tip of the iceberg. He gave HUGE tax cuts which in time will hurt the middle class by taking away money from programs that desperately need the money. And because of the way he has run things, millions of people are unemployed and it is really hard to find a job. I could probably go on. You may not think that these things I pointed out are as evil as what Hitler did, but I say they are and I'm sure someone will back me up here. Bush is not fit to be our president. He never was and he never will be. He got into the office through scandal, and his presidency up to now has been the same. - Ace |
X-G
Member #856
December 2000
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Quote: I'm not sure about Hitler's concern for the enviornment IIRC, Hitler was a vegetarian and rather cared for the environment. -- |
23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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You can dislike Bush for what he's done in office, and that's your fair right. However, to compare him to Hitler ... well's that's not even realistic. If USA went and invaded Canada, Greenland and Mexico - then you'd have a point. Good grief, Hitler even invaded France. However, regarding the Florida vote... Yes it was pathetic, but it was not a "scandal". Perhaps you should read some objective reports? [url http://us.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/15/miami.dade.vote/] According to the newspapers that conducted that research, Bush won Florida. About the only way Gore got more votes, is if people gave him Buchanan's votes (If you remember, some of the counties had a high number of votes for Buchanan.) and ballots with multiple votes. Voting is incredibly easy to do right, but it looks like they still need to come up with easier ways for the less fortunate... The Florida vote was really way too close to call. That's why afterwords, even with numerous reports and analysis no one can still claim 100% certainity about the vote count. This is not the fault of Bush or Gore. Gore couldn't even win his homestate or Clinton's. And despite who was in office, 9/11 was bound to happen. Bush did nothing to provoke that. |
Ace
Member #1,781
December 2001
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That's funny, because I read an article about a how one of the newspapers counted the votes in seven different ways. Five of the ways showing that Gore would have won. The newspaper concluded that had the votes been counted correctly, Gore would have won. Had the votes been counted in the way Gore would have wanted them to be counted, he would have lost. I'll try to dig up this article, it's somewhere out on the net. And yes, the article came from someone with credentials. I orginally got it from Yahoo news, but it seems to have since been deleted from there. Edit: Not the article I mentioned, but a very interesting read: [url http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=10589] Edit2: And another: [url http://www.commondreams.org/views01/1115-02.htm] Personally, I believe that Jeb Bush and his cronies had a part to play because something wasn't done right in Florida. Twenty years from now we may see thousands of Gore votes pop up in the Gulf. And Bush may not have invaded Canada, Greenland, and Mexico, but he has invaded Iraq. Bush may or may not have had anything to do with 9/11, but whatever the case, it could have been handled a lot better. Just to clear up any cofusion, I'm not a Hitler supported. - Ace |
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