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Pesticides in TEA!
Neil Roy
Member #2,229
April 2002
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Did anyone else see Marketplace today? I'm not sure if it is available outside of Canada, but they had a short clip about TEA, where they tested a bunch of brands for pesticides and Tetley Tea came up with 16 pesticides (3 of which were above the legal limit), another brand, which I forget the name, had 22 pesticides in it! Incredible!

ALL the brands except one had pesticides in them like this. The only brand that had ZERO was Red Rose Orange Pekoe Tea. So if you drink tea, as we do once in a while, be warned.

When you can't trust something like Tea anymore, what can you trust?! Sheesh.

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LennyLen
Member #5,313
December 2004
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I'm simply just amazed that someone who has a brain and pays attention has only just realized that a mass produced product that comes from a plant will have pesticides in it. And that you needed TV to tell you this. :P

furinkan
Member #10,271
October 2008
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Hmmm... never thought about it. Thanks for bringing up the thought, though.

Striker
Member #10,701
February 2009
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Decades ago they found DDT in the fat of wild icebears. We can expect today no living being is completely clean of pesticides. We can only reduce the contamination and purify our bodies.

I have around 20 different herbs on my kitchen balcony, they all can be used as tea. Naturally they are not completely clean, but it is guaranteed they haven't got loads of pesticides. ;)

Gideon Weems
Member #3,925
October 2003

As a kid, I remember thinking that pesticides existed in order to keep bugs off of crops, because bugs are dirty. I wonder how many people fail to grow out of that notion.

raynebc
Member #11,908
May 2010

When I was young, I took up gardening as a hobby for a while, so I knew early on the real use of pesticides as a poison to protect the crop.

Even so, organic-certified commercial foods are more restricted in what pesticides can be used (ie. ones that occur in nature, and even then some of the more dangerous ones are still not allowed).

Striker
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February 2009
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Until now i don`t have insects on my balcony except bees and similar aviators. Sometimes there are a dozen of them, but i can sit in the middle of the balcony, they ignore me, they are completely fixed on the blossoms. I believe insects on plants often are a result of false cultivation and monoculture.

So far it works with my balcony, but what if i would have a big plantation and need to earn money with it? There are biological methods, but the complete agrarian structure must be changed, we need more peasants and they must become better paid.

In Spain they get 13 cent/kilo for their oranges, thats not even enough for the costs. These are complex problems and no easy solution in sight. :-/

Polybios
Member #12,293
October 2010

LennyLen said:

I'm simply just amazed that someone who has a brain and pays attention has only just realized that a mass produced product that comes from a plant will have pesticides in it. And that you needed TV to tell you this. :P

Neil Roy
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April 2002
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Now normally, I would agree with most people in here, it's a given the way things are grown these days that we find something. But when one brand has 22 pesticides and another has ZERO... this shows me someone is being lazy. Red Rose Tea has none what so ever, showing that a brand name can come through clean. Anyhow, I found the video for this episode online, check it out...

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LennyLen said:

I'm simply just amazed that someone who has a brain and pays attention has only just realized that a mass produced product that comes from a plant will have pesticides in it. And that you needed TV to tell you this. :P

The fact that one of the brands tested is a mass produced product, a brand name here in Canada anyhow, had ZERO invalidates your stupid comment.

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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Striker said:

I believe insects on plants often are a result of false cultivation and monoculture.

The fact that some bugs eat some plants shows that they evolved to eat plants. What makes them so damaging is that the plants in question are planted in huge numbers in a small area to facilitate harvesting, which is totally unnatural. This would be somewhat similar to kids finding a mountain of cheeseburgers. The natural state would be a small clump of tea every few meters at most.

Or is that what you meant by "monoculture"?

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Striker
Member #10,701
February 2009
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Yes, monoculture is completely unnatural. Have you ever seen a natural grown plantation, whith thousands or millions of the same plant and no other between them? It's not planned by nature this way.

Nature has the insects to eliminate plants that are not useful and grown in a false place or at a false time. Moon phase is important at this too.

In factory farming they don't care about the plan of the nature. They want to control it to earn money. But we must work together with nature, not against it. 8-)

Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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My issue would be with the ammounts still found after packaging. If there is more than the safe limit, or hell, even close to the safe limit, I think the product should be re-called.

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Chris Katko
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January 2002
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When you say tea, do you mean green tea, or sweet tea? Because I'm all about some sweet tea. If the supposedly healthy green tea is harmful people, that's delightfully hilarious.

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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June 2000
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It's probably black and green tea. That Orange Pekoe is a dark tea.

TBH it doesn't really surprise me in the least.

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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I thought sweet tea had sugar added. Same with lemons. Nothing to do with the tea leaves.

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Striker
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February 2009
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Thomas, i am in doubt about the "safe limit". You can call it "allowed limit" because it is nothing but the limit government allows. If its really safe is another question. Like in Fukushima where the government needed to drastically raise the limit for radiation. But when a government gives a limit, then they should re-call packages over that limit, thats right.

In reality no scientist knows everything about the long time effect of pesticides and what would be a real safe limit. 8-)

gnolam
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March 2002
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Striker said:

Thomas, i am in doubt about the "safe limit". You can call it "allowed limit" because it is nothing but the limit government allows.

The latter of which is often several times below the former. Turns out, safety margins are a thing.

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In reality no scientist knows everything about the long time effect of pesticides and what would be a real safe limit. 8-)

Yes, because the concept of epidemiological studies is entirely unknown to the scientists who research this for a living.

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Slartibartfast
Member #8,789
June 2007
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I thought sweet tea had sugar added. Same with lemons. Nothing to do with the tea leaves.

wikipedia seems to agree, which of course means sweet teas are as "dangerous" as regular teas.

This is my current favorite tea, though they did not test it (I think they are owned by Lipton, so I suppose it is just as pesticidy).

Neil Roy
Member #2,229
April 2002
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I posted the original TV program, it's a short video above. I noticed all sorts of teas, they tested quite a few, Green teas included.

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