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		<title>I&#39;ll fly to Amsterdam...</title>
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		<webMaster>matthew@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</webMaster>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Yep, i&#39;ll take a small vacation, from the 25th to the 29th of March <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /></p><p>Any specific places i should see? Any particular precautions i should take?<br />More importantly, is there the chance to make a mini allegro-con with a fellow member?
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 03:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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When I went to Amsterdam a few years ago, I managed to wander through the red light district without noticing anything to do with sex, I went past many cafe&#39;s without noticing any drugs. They were there, I was just blind. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/shocked.gif" alt=":o" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 03:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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They were there, I was just blind. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/shocked.gif" alt=":o" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Derezo)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 04:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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Nope, though I did get some novelty sunglasses which had a green holographic smiley in  each lens. They drew some stares. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cheesy.gif" alt=":D" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 04:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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More importantly, is there the chance to make a mini allegro-con with a fellow member?
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I have to check my agenda, but good idea in principle. It&#39;s been a while since I visited the capital.</p><p>edit: edited
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (amarillion)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 04:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I have a workshop to attend to at the same time, so I probably don&#39;t have time to meet up with anyone (although the workshop is in Amsterdam - which reminds me, I still need to prepare for the workshop). I may be able to squeeze something in on the 26th, but no promises. Remind me a couple of days in advance.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
Any specific places i should see?
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Depends on what you like to see. What I can recommend you to do is take a boat tour. You&#39;ll get a very quick overview of the city and a general idea on where you might go.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
Any particular precautions i should take?
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As anywhere, beware of pick-pockets. Check in advance when the last trams leave from any particular location (usually around midnight) and where the night bus stops are.<br />Above all, make sure you don&#39;t wander over the cycling lines. Most cyclers here (myself included) are so fed up with tourists who don&#39;t realise that they&#39;re on a cycling lane that they simply ignore the fact that they&#39;re there and run them down.</p><p>As for coffeeshops, do as you like with those, but if you decide to go there, make sure you don&#39;t end up taking enough drugs for a lifetime in one shot, as some of the tourists (especially British tourists) seem to do.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Evert)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 05:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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Yep, i&#39;ll take a small vacation, from the 25th to the 29th of March <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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Woo, congrats <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Marco Radaelli)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 06:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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They were there, I was just blind.
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http://www.moviepostershop.com/item_img/hum201.jpg
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Halmén)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 15:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I&#39;ve just booked at the <b>Vondel Park Plaza</b> hotel, it should be quite near the city center... does anybody know it?</p><p>Having a boat trip seems like a nice idea, and as for coffee shops i&#39;ll surely visit them, more for curiosity than anything else (i don&#39;t even smoke normal cigarettes <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />).
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 20:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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I&#39;ve just booked at the Vondel Park Plaza hotel, it should be quite near the city center... does anybody know it?
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I don&#39;t know the hotel, but a hotel at that location sounds like it would be expensive...<br />Near to the centre is a relative term. It&#39;s about half way from where I live (which is fairly close to the outskirts of the city) to the centre, which isn&#39;t too bad, and you can probably cut through the park, which can be quite nice (but I don&#39;t recommend it at night if you&#39;re alone). Tram connections from there to the centre should be very good, but I don&#39;t know about the night bus. Then again, it shouldn&#39;t be more than half an hour walk from there.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
as for coffee shops i&#39;ll surely visit them, more for curiosity than anything else (i don&#39;t even smoke normal cigarettes <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />).
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It&#39;s not a prerequisite; I know people who smoke (or smoked) weed but have never smoked tobacco. As pubs go, Coffeeshops aren&#39;t great. The smell is rather nauseating if you don&#39;t like it.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Evert)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 21:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Mmm... An allegro-meetup in Amsterdam. Give me a shout if something gets organised...</p><p>Anyway, <a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/533030">here is another thread about visiting Amsterdam</a>.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Evert said:</div><div class="quote"><p>

I know people who smoke (or smoked) weed but have never smoked tobacco.
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I&#39;ve also known non-smokers who first smoked weed, and then started smoking ordinary cigarettes.</p><p>AE.
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (amarillion)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Thanks for all the information </p><p>Saturday 25th would be good for me, i&#39;d also get the chance to know Amsterdam a little better. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /><br />Who can leave me his cellular phone number (by PM), so i can contact him in case i have problems reaching the pub?
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I knew about the red light area in Amsterdam, but I had a great laugh, when I saw a hotel named &quot;Multatuli&quot;. Forgive me, all Dutchmen here, but it <i>is</i> a bit bizarre. It is Finnish and it means... well... <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/embarassed.gif" alt=":-[" /> <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" /></p><p>&quot;I ejaculated&quot;
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Halmén)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (amarillion)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Halmén)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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I knew about the red light area in Amsterdam, but I had a great laugh, when I saw a hotel named &quot;Multatuli&quot;.
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Multatuli is Latin for `I have had much to bear&#39;. It is the pseudonym of an important and famous Dutch writer (his real name is Eduard Douwes Dekker). He wrote <i>Max Havelaar</i>, a name which is now used by fair-trade organisations to indicate that the farmers who grew the product (typically beans, bananas and things like that) received a fair price for it.</p><p>As for a meeting on the 25th, I can probably make it, but I&#39;ll have to double check.<br />What sort of place are we going for? There is an Irish pub that I rather like that should be fairly easy to find, but we can also meet somewhere (Leidseplein, say) and decide where to go from there.
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 04:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Van Gogh has a museum there, if you&#39;re into that sort of thing.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (casey d)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Evert: I have no preference, let&#39;s go to that Irish pub. Where can we find it?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (amarillion)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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Van Gogh has a museum there, if you&#39;re into that sort of thing.
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It&#39;s hideously expensive though.</p><p>The Irish pub I was thinking of is on the Rokin and they very conveniently have a website: <a href="http://www.thetara.com/index.php?page=location">http://www.thetara.com/index.php?page=location</a><br />What do we do for the time and how to we recognise oneanother?
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Well Van Gogh is one of my favourite artists so if it isn&#39;t that much expensive i&#39;ll gladly see it.</p><p>As for the time: 9:30 - 10:00p.m.? Too soon, too late?<br />To recognise ourselves i say we could carry something like a piece of paper with ALLEGRO written on, or something like that <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (amarillion)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (amarillion)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Count me in!</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Evert said:</div><div class="quote"><p>

The Irish pub I was thinking of is on the Rokin and they very conveniently have a website: <a href="http://www.thetara.com/index.php?page=location">http://www.thetara.com/index.php?page=location</a>
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Seems like a good plan. If things get a bit too loud, we can always go outside and wander around.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Evert said:</div><div class="quote"><p>

how to we recognise oneanother?
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I&#39;ll probably wear a dark-blue T-shirt with a big Atari logo on it. Also, bear in mind that my hair is currently somewhat shorter than the picture on my a.cc profile-page.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">amarillion said:</div><div class="quote"><p>

So 21.30 then
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That&#39;s fine with me.</p><p>AE.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Andrei Ellman)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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So 21.30 then
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So 21:30 it is <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I was thinking of bringing a small pluche alligator, but I don&#39;t have one. Anyway, I trust people will recognise me from pictures <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Evert)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Can you guys take a pic of the event so you can post it here after you meet? It&#39;d be nice to see you all together <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /> (I cannot attend as I am a bit far -- more than 10000 kms.)
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Crazy Photon)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I&#39;ll be only ~30km away, but yet so far... need to attend a rehearsal in Leiden. Anyway, have fun.<br />And about the van Gogh museum: if you&#39;re into fine art, and you manage to find a quiet day (mid-week), it&#39;s well worth the money. But since you only spend the weekend, I wouldn&#39;t do it, there are better things to do. <br />Be sure to take an early-morning (before the other tourists crowd the streets) walk around the inner city.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Tobias Dammers)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Actually i&#39;ll stay till the 29th <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /></p><p>Anyway i think i&#39;ll bring along a very geekish t-shirt (there is no place like 127.0.0.1)... just to be sure you recognise me.
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>too bad i have the flu .. and that i am in Apeldoorn right now. Else i would&#39;ve attented there for sure. Amsterdam is around 30 minutes travel for me <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" /></p><p>Are there more meetings like this? </p><p>Btw, i did not know there are so many dutch Allegro users here! wow! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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