So.
What's happened in the last... err... 10 years? since I was last in here?

Everyone but like three peeps stopped making games. I think there's just amarillion, Frank Drebin, and me. I guess Unity / Unreal are more enticing.

IDK what else, the usual politic/religion super heated flame-filled discussions are still here alive and kickin'. There's a lot less activity, too.

I got married.
I "bought" a house with my wife.
Cannabis became legal in Canada.
I got a better job.
We got a puppy.
We're all going to die.

I gave up drinking, pot smoking and eating crap and got rewarded for my efforts with a giant tumour. So life is about the usual.

bamccaig: Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay! Yay! ... well shit.

LennyLen: Eesh.

Gnolam, buddy! Good to see you! Thanks for actually taking a moment to say hello!

You probably remember me as the annoying kid asking all the questions. Well now I'm answering them....karma's a bitch

I'm still around. If you remember me.

I had a kid, bought a house, became an astrophotographer, and got my first court case. I miss being young and having all you interesting people to look forward to.

I've been married and divorced, and I met the wife I'm with for the last 9 years.
I had 2 kids with her, and we are still rocking ^^
Still working at the same company and also in a little side company as a freelance to make project I want with friends.

I'm still coming from times to times, and I do not fear to publish my code anymore X-D

Ho, and we are all (the country) confined due to covid19.

I turned 40, no kids, no wifey, lots of kitties, no more doggies, still unemployed (almost sort of by choice), graduated with my BS in CS, started and immediately flunked out of grad school, but meh I don't have a lot to complain about. Except dying from the Chinese Leftist Fear Mongering Hoax Pandemic. See? That's satire.

EDIT
This thread has been going for 4 years strong. Join our arguments ahem flamewars ahem discussions

Allegro.pas (AKA Allegro4pascal) is 98% Delphi compatible.

Not forgetting a shout-out to the mighty
SiegeLord
who has been keeping the actual Allegro side of things going for some time now.
Thanks SL!

Welcome

I have awaken into the true path of humans (aka i have found the meaning of life)
i have found out that nothing is impossible and there is no such thing as fiction.

oh yah and we are all baby gods

I see my little AI bot experiment still needs some work.

Or does it?

Thanks to the maintainers, thanks to the host !

:-D

Gnolam - what are you up to?

I have a gift for those old cats whom are up in age nearing your end of life from the community.

I am will to share some of the finding of the meaning and knowledge of life with you even if you are not African. My plan was to share my knowledge with the African people first than with the rest of the world. DM and note you will no be allowed to share what i am offering you.

regards
King Piccolo

I remember everyone in this thread. Most of you even have the same avatars that I remember.

Fun hearing from all of you!

I left the world of awesome radiation research and civil defense and went into industry instead.
(While the work isn't as interesting, it turns out that you can literally double your salary by doing so.)

I've been creating software for a niche industry the past... 6? 7? something like that years. So whatever happens in this current apocalypse, I can at least take pride in knowing that a measurable percentage of a certain industry's software, across all inhabited continents, are installations of something I've written from scratch.

[EDIT] I write grammarly.

You have been missed. There's nobody left to put me in my place.

But at least that ought to have been interesting because, you know, radiation

Yeah, I've found that too, except in my case I think my salary went up five fold when I quit grad school and went to business.

As far as the OP question: I finished masters, went to a grad school and then found a better job maintaining certain 3D engine used extensively for miltary simulations. Serious gaming they call it.

Aww!

Completely different, perfectly mundane industry, I'm afraid.

Though... for some reason, work trips for it have had me fearing for my life more than my personal trips to weird, weird (sometimes unrecognized) countries.
(Do not, under any circumstances, try to visit a worksite in South Africa during a strike.)
(Also, when visiting a chemical plant: when an alarm goes off and the people hosting you start running, try to keep up.)

Given the country you are in, I'm pretty sure I know exactly which one you're talking about.

We remember you too, Mr. Gnolam.

This thread has attracted a lot of old names.

Hey! I remember you! I'm kinda of away from programming, my work consists mostly on ETL but we try to call it "data science" so it's fancier hhehehe, still have some game plans on my mind, I didn't finish my megaman clone, which uses allegro. I have a new project, but will use unity because my IQ is too low to compete with what I can do with unity Also have a comic series i'm trying to write while i look at my desktop for hours hahaha. I got married, and by now just waiting to see if I'll be sick or not. Every once in a while I come here and look at the forum just out of nostalgia hehehe

Some day, very soon, I'm going to port all my most promising unfinished A4 projects to A5. Meanwhile, I'm doing more Arduino stuff. Kind of returning to the essential fun in coding. Compare it to coding text console games. There's even a community, arduino.cc, which is a bit like what a.cc was in its glorious years, very friendly, very nerdy people, yet having a hard time being polite to impatient noobs asking stupid questions. Is it a coincidence that they both share the .cc domain?

I've developed an interest in horology, I get enough programming in my day job.

I used to argue with others here about them wanting to do all the work in society while some fat cat in his big house decided how to spend the money earned by said work.

I called it slavery, but everybody else insisted it was socialism. Maybe a lot of the enthusiasts imagined they'd be the fat cat in the big house.

Now I just pretend to be a looser with no onion.

Sounds more like capitalism to me.

Under capitalism, the invisible hand of Adam Smith drives prices, and since people want to maximize their profits, they invest in what shortages/desires exist.

In the USSR, you could get plenty of cucumbers, not much meat, sewing needles were almost unheard of, but you can get those in plenty here.

I googled for the term I couldn't think of off the top of my head (regulatory capture) which I'll get to in a minute, but I came across this gem of stupidity right off.

That's a blatant lie. Growing potatoes or designing things through the effort of your own brain is not a zero sum game. Who got ripped off if you grow potatoes?

That's the fault of the people who won't pay the price of eternal vigilance.

And god damn it! I've fallen into it again, arguing with people who are enamored of all the free stuff! Well, at least since the Bernie Bros are too lazy to work for what they want, they're also too lazy to go to the polls.

I'm out.

On the side of Capitalism!;

Trump + AK + Bob + raynebc

vs

On the side of Democratic Socialism!;

Bernie + Edgar + bambams

Who will win this knock down drag out fight? Place your wagers now!

Sudden devolution into a political argument: yep, this is still allegro.cc.

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Capitalism is currently asking for some of its money back that was wasted on policies such as the war on poverty, urban renewal, gasohol etc.

The part about the work trips make it sound a little bit different Though it sounds that those trips were actually far more interesting and dangerous than that A.cc trip to Chernobyl.

Guilty as charged but we're officially US owned and quite spread around the world. On the other hand, the other company is also spread nowdays but as far as I know they don't have US office, yet.

It's been a long time but yes, so true

Indeed it did, I still recognize lots of the names and avatars. I've been lurking in shadows for the past 6 years, popping up here and there. My problem is that I always forget I wanted to checkout and actually checkout after a year or so. And yet, still A.cc is set as one of my pinned tabs It's nice that this place still holds up.

Hello, friends.

I started a new job in December 2018. My job before that was slowly whittling away, so I jumped ship to where a lot of my co-workers went. I was hesitant at first because it was not an industry I had any passion for: the trucking industry. But, it's actually been great! I'm the Product Owner for the mobile application that our 18,000 drivers use on a daily basis. We're currently developing rapid solutions to help the drivers in this wild environment where no one wants to get close or exchange physical things, a key element of the industry. I've got a pretty a cool team that I get to work with and a lot of opportunity.

This is certainly a scary time. My wife has an autoimmune disease and my mom has early onset Alzheimer's disease and lives in a locked down facility where there is one known case of COVID-19.

Anyway, good to see a few familiar faces...err...avatars here.

OMG. This is zomby apocalypse! Corpses are leaving their graves and posting!!

Just kidding. Nice to see you.

It's not a zombie apocalypse until X-G and 23yrold come back

Or Johan Peitz.

And Thomas Harte!

Maybe now is a good time for someone to nicely ask Shawn if he will write a DX12 driver for allegro....

cough something about vulkan cough splutter

If I ever met him in person, the only thing I'd ask is for him to say "Welcome to Allegro".

So Matt, how 'bout that title ?

The famous "Welcome to allegro"
You cannot know how happy I was the first time I compiled allegro and had working examples.
That short sentence will stay forever in my mind ^^

If he adds support, we won't have an excuse for not finishing our projects.

I've not been doing much! Just waiting for the FF7 Remake now after playing the demo. On furlough so no work for me for at least a month. Hope everyone is doing ok.

Ahh... looks like the gang's mostly all here...

Dizzy, good to see you in the shell!

Awesome to have you guys pop in and say hi. Join our longest running thread ever. 4500 replies!! We're halfway there!;D

Woah!
Living on a prayer!

Definitely more dangerous, anyway.
The perception of danger and actual danger are not the same thing. Even without an armed mob that you need the escort of a 120 kg man with body armor and an R4 assault rifle to get through (seriously ), a few too many of those visits bring the Chemical Worker's Song to mind. Any one of those has probably shortened my life span more than the infinitesimally increased lifetime risk going to Chernobyl.
Not to say that they are that dangerous: more that y'all should have come back in the day! Old-school Sarcophagus is best Sarcophagus!

And on the same theme, I finally visited the breakaway republic of Transnistria the other year. Before going there I had people betting actual money on me not making it back (I of course was happy to take those bets, because I literally could not lose: win and I get money, lose and I... don't have to pay ) because the online travel guides make it seem like if you so much as look at people funny, you'll get arrested by the KGB.
Nope!
The KGB agents were lovely people!
(Even the ones surreptitiously taking photos of you as you walked around town were just inept enough that it was just adorable. )

When did 23 leave? And where did he leave to?

X-G I can say is doing fine at least.

I assume 23 was consumed by whatever replaced WOW.

Good to hear X-G is still alive and kicking.

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Where Matthew went to school.

Maybe you should consider writing a book Didn't know the song, thanks for broadening my knowledge.

Nice a few years back I didn't even know that such country even exists. And part of the trip was even covered by the won bets, adorable I don't suppose those people were real friends, were they?

Hm, X-G, last time I remember he was posting some screenshots of some Invaders clone with very Cthulhu looking sprites, good to hear he's doing fine.

I hate how the world of programming has become, rotten to capitalisms and twisted into meaningless trash languages. Between irresponsible people to die and many other things.

I am in the process of eternal hibernation, increasingly inactive and soon I will be meditating for 10000 years without having contact with anyone.

Let's see. I finished my PhD in bioinformatics, moved to the UK, then abandoned the whole bioinformatics thing and moved back to the Netherlands. Now working as a regular software developer.

To scratch that academic itch, I overload my games with science. And I do still make games, now more than ever.

@amarillion: Neato!

What happened to people like Derezo and Kitty Cat?

@gnolam

You introduced me to the word callipygian. Burned into my mind.

Edit
Kitty Cat is on IRC from time to time. Check #allegro on freenode. I'm Modulo5k, there are others you would remember too.

What's your association with X-G? Does he have a presence / is active somewhere?

All europeans know each other. there's only like 7 of them.

RmBeer2 i have what you have been looking for search the History that has been Hidden from the world true Africa. then you will find the True use for coding

We have an 18-month-old daughter

As far as programming goes, it's a long time since I worked on a game. Somehow we had trouble making a profit with games (funny, that). We got into deep learning though and it's quite a thing - so very different from classical programming. It can be demoralising when nothing you try works, but at the same time, it's an amazing set of skills to be acquiring.

I will say in response to

that I find Python rather good. Isn't it also easy to feel disillusioned in any area of life in its current state, but when you look back, it's the good things that people remember? It's certainly true with classical music.

Unity is an odd beast. It's got good bits and bad bits in it. Unfortunately, many of the core designs that you cannot avoid using are bad. Some of the problems are very old and just hard to fix without breaking everything, but Mecanim is more recent and is impossible. Perhaps there are lesser known competitors to Unity that get more things right, or perhaps there's still a place for Allegro?

[EDIT]
An example of a bad but unfixable design in Unity: method execution order, especially for identically named methods across different behaviours on different objects, and especially in that it tends to be consistent (but arbitrary) in the editor and then it changes when you build, leading to build-only problems. And by the way, building can take half an hour if you're unlucky, but certainly a minute or two.

Mecanim is impossible: it forces you to make lots of separate assets that you have to choose paths for, and it's difficult to understand what they all are; and then it constrains you into a state machine with blocking transitions, preventing you from ever being able to make a responsive, reliable app since things you do during a transition will get ignored or delayed and will have a chance to fight each other in race conditions. It's just the usual "imposing a framework" thing that happens so often. I stick to Unity's legacy animations.

if you want to find meaning in everything or just deep learning you need to research your African roots that have been hidden from you.

There's Unreal engine.

Real men program in binary.....

During the last 10 years I switched my job from university to database programming at first an after a few further years I changed again to my current job: software engineering for space flights!

But I never stopped working with Allegro in my free time.

Since I've hacked changing the binary code of the Atari 2600 and Nintendo ROMs, I've become quite a man.

Wow, congrats! I hadn't heard from you in a while and was already wondering what's up. Do you still live in England?

So I guess, no time for TINS then?

Indeed, sadly not

We're in Germany at the moment, which is probably for the best.

Watch out Matthew - piccolo is becoming self-aware!

Supercallipygianisticexpialidocious?

callipygian-ness

ie. how finely shaped your gluts are

Life with two children is somewhat more full than before.

I'd love to take parts in compos, but I'm afraid I'll have to wait until the little one is a few more months old so the evening routines are common to her and her brother (less time spent doing 2 times the same thing, same sleeping hours)

Why has nobody created a virtual children's game so far? With this, everyone would want to raise their children and they would also have more free time to do their things. (It is possible to reduce the level of demand of these children so that they do not break your balls as much)

I would say "we've evolved a bit since then", but it would probably come across as racist so I won't.

backs away from laptop

You mean Princess Maker all the way back in the 1991, and it's 4+ sequels?

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Also, for preventing your kids from slaughtering themselves on everyday household items:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/427730/Whos_Your_Daddy/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/573600/Think_of_the_Children/

Is this the corona-induced allegro.cc renaissance?

Maybe. For me it's different: I'm a allegro.cc ghost/stalker and I'm resurrecting from times to times. Good syncro that time if you ask me ^^

Dizzy Egg: no you will find we have de-evolved what we know now is nothing compared to what we knew before an what has been hidden from. I have found every single invention i have made in African history of the Egypt even ones that i have thought about but do not have a working implementation for. you are all being lied too by the controller of the world. the races are races depending how from from Africa they settled we are all from the center of Africa the sorce

9 years running and I still haven't found a doctor to diagnose me. So that sucks.

Chris Katko drink some sea salt water and exersize

There is scientific evidence for African Genesis. Piccolo is not wrong.

Edgar Reynaldo: just keep studying and be careful because there is opposition to this information and they will kill you before you gain the power from the truth.
when you learn more you will understand why the world is the way it is you will understand who you need to be careful of. everything about this world and God works on Logic as programmers we have the ability to decode easily to the truth because we can do logic Truth tables in our heads. you need to study everything and use truth tables to find the common denominator linking all the data.

every on ein allegro should also work on implementing

aquaponic farming

to free yourself and your family from the control and some influence of the system

Edit all it is important to make sure your heart intentions are pure when going on the Journey you will be presented with 2 paths dont chose the selfish path chose the that benefits all. this whole world is about working together to understand all. note is you do not chose the righteous path your emotions will block you are the knowledge that will give you the power to resist

@piccolo , Which way do you mean it's? literally to leave the house and walk around in search of enlightenment?

Now if you were presented with 2 paths, you are being too partial about what the individual must decide. A good guide does not wait for you with a stick in hand in case you are wrong.

no you can use you tube it like a collection of stored brain activity. you need too digest as much information about why things are the way they built once you do this enough networks in your brain form and start to decode the core concepts of nature being you to understanding them the more you understand the easy it will be to understand more.

there are 2 paths because you will be shown information that can make hate despise others or be fearful of going forward if you fall for it an manifest emotions those emotions will block you from the other data. it is a great way to stop manics from gaining more power than good people. its all about self control.

Interesting thread. I still dabble with game development, but still don't show anything. Two years ago my wife had a breathing episode to where now both my wife and son have trachs, ventilators, and feed pumps. I spend most of my time hanging out with friends on Discord watching Doctor Who and a lot of horror movies. I lurk here from time to time, but I've not used Allegro in a long time, like everyone else I've migrated to SDL and SFML. I used to stress making games that were fun and getting well known, now I'm happy being nobody, far less stressful. Well back to lurking.

@Specter Phoenix the stuff i am posting can heal your family however as King of the House hold you need to to use it to transform yourself first before you learn of to apply it to your family. research vegetable Algae for human consumption.

SpecterPhoenix sorry to hear about your wife and child. You have my sympathy.

Also please, not everyone has abandoned allegro.

Where did I say anyone abandoned it? I said migrated to SDL or SFML. Migrating to a different library doesn't necessarily mean they abandon it.

I'm guilty of dropping Allegro.

I use LOVE now.

Sure feels like it.

As for what I've been doing for the last 10 years?

• Dropped out of college cause I couldn't pay for it

• Bounced around the US doing contract IT work

• Scored a Girlfriend who is about as big of a nerd as I am.

• Almost killed myself by falling asleep while driving and totaling my car

• Had my cat die

• Developed some health issues.

Just a few highlights. Way more happened then that.

I've lurked A.CC a few times and I pop in to #allegro on Freenode just often enough that NameServ keeps my nick registered to me

I kinda gave up on game programming cause I never have the time. I've ended up with a career as a Storage Administrator so I've just never had time. Closest I've come to any sort of actual programming is the PowerShell scripts I write to get my job done.

Huh.

we have found Memo.

Did you miss the mEmO?

another Finding Memo will be released 2021 all theaters world wide.

Finding I'm EmO, 2020

They are the best

Here's what I have been up to.

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I wrote a choir piece to some beautiful lyrics I found on the net. I gathered 15 people to do the recordings. The mixing is almost done, as well as the video editing.
My wife at upper left corner. Me as the left most guy. Some of the singers are my choir friends, some are Swedish music teachers I've never met.
The project brought me memories of our Monday Song project here on a.cc some 15 years ago.

I still haven't finished Chickens.

It's great to see all these old avatars again.

Some avatar are psychotic...

I still haven't finished some music tracks for Chickens.

Don't worry, it will always be Monday again soon.

It just occurred to me that my current project, Food Chain Farm, actually has some similarities with Chickens. Lots of stuff going through tubes. It even has Chickens and eggs in it.

sup...

i'm lost... what chickens??...

https://www.allegro.cc/depot/Chickens

Also http://software.wackonet.net/chickens/
And https://www.allegro.cc/iotd/view/2006-12-22

oh now i remember. Thank you.
I have seen it.

And now also https://wackosoftware.itch.io/chickens

Anyway, tomorrow (or today if I don't finish this message fast enough) (Thursday), I will be presenting Chickens Online (via Zoom) at this event. Please feel free to gatecrashjoin. The Zoom-event is open for everyone.

Looks cool. I'll have to check this out sometime.

Æ.

That game looks way to wacko crazy for me. Congrats.

Been making a game in my spare time - https://mobile.twitter.com/WarWarGameDev

great work!

I think they are posting on the wrong side, they should post games on Depots.

@Mike Farrell: Great job! Looks good.

Well hello there

I would if I could...