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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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gnolam said: "DRM is like running a store and doing cavity searches on your customers while the thieves are coming and going through the back door" I'm your back door man! They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
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23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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bamccaig said: They should have actually blacked out the entire sites.
Agreed. I'm with gnolam in wondering why the site was still coming up; this is just lame. Go NoScript. -- |
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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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OTOH, the people who don't know what SOPA is aren't likely to know about NoScript either. They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
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Dario ff
Member #10,065
August 2008
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23yrold3yrold said: Go NoScript.
I just found out that Youtube sometimes plays ads on videos. Although perhaps that was just Adblock. But still, the internet doesn't feel the same... EDIT: This twitter is gold. Retweets people asking what's going on. TranslatorHack 2010, a human translation chain in a.cc. |
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Dario ff said: Retweets people asking what's going on. You'd think that people going to an encyclopedia would be willing to read the page they land on, but no. I wonder how many confused individuals are calling their representatives, thinking that it is a line to Wikipedia's tech support. |
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Dario ff
Member #10,065
August 2008
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Read wikipedia? Ctrl-A + Ctrl-C + Ctrl-V. TranslatorHack 2010, a human translation chain in a.cc. |
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23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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That twitter is awesome. "what does Wikipedia have against soap?"; lmao -- |
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Dario ff
Member #10,065
August 2008
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some random tard said: wikipedia is FUCKING me right now
It sure is. Quote: fuck you wikipedia EDIT:
@Encarta95 Microsoft Encarta
TranslatorHack 2010, a human translation chain in a.cc. |
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Specter Phoenix
Member #1,425
July 2001
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I have no trouble at all loading wikipedia pages => http://twitpic.com/88uq2r just have to tell it to stop loading the page before it has a chance to load the blackout page. Idiots messed up the blackout, they load the content page then redirect to the blackout page so you are able to stop it and view the site information and everything.
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anonymous
Member #8025
November 2006
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Specter Phoenix said: Idiots messed up the blackout That's under the assumption their intention is to punish their users, rather than getting a message across (for those that have javascript enabled). |
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Dario ff
Member #10,065
August 2008
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If Facebook did this for 12 hours there would probably be an internet explosion. Heck, they even managed to mistake Facebook for a blog that appeared first on the search results... TranslatorHack 2010, a human translation chain in a.cc. |
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Neil Walker
Member #210
April 2000
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Dario ff said: EDIT: This twitter is gold Well from there I found this So I signed the online petition to my congressman in 90210 (it's the only zip I know) Neil. wii:0356-1384-6687-2022, kart:3308-4806-6002. XBOX:chucklepie |
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Specter Phoenix
Member #1,425
July 2001
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anonymous said: That's under the assumption their intention is to punish their users, rather than getting a message across (for those that have javascript enabled). Well it would defeat the point of the blackout to protest SOPA/PIPA, but it would just prove my point of them being idiots. Can't get a message across if the users can get around it. A lot of sites would lose functionality though if you have javascript disabled as a lot of sites still use javascript.
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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The reason Wikipedia uses JS for things like this is they didn't want to mess up their precious Google page rank or pollute their global cache network. But I don't think a site like Wikipedia should be taking sides anyway. It's fine to raise awareness in a neutral fashion, but the blatant spread of FUD should be beneath an open encyclopedia project. I'm tired of seeing sites that say things like, "If SOPA passes then this site will be censored! OMG!L!!!" Then you do a WHOIS and it's registered to an American, hosted by an American company on an American network, and thus SOPA doesn't even apply. |
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Specter Phoenix
Member #1,425
July 2001
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Yeah I said in IRC the quote Google has in their logo link then made a joke remark. What I said basically: Quote: Millions of Americans oppose SOPA and PIPA because these bills would censor the Internet and slow economic growth in the U.S. Oh no! Americans are mad because congress is going to block their piracy and pornography!
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james_lohr
Member #1,947
February 2002
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I lost respect for Wikipedia when they started scrounging for money with their incredibly obtrusive personal adds. I would much rather have subtle advertising (e.g. google-style) that some big ugly bearded face staring at me on every second article. Matthew Leverton said: spread of FUD should be beneath an open encyclopedia project Absolutely.
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Dario ff
Member #10,065
August 2008
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Wikipedia had ads? TranslatorHack 2010, a human translation chain in a.cc. |
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Specter Phoenix
Member #1,425
July 2001
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Dario ff said: Wikipedia had ads? Yeah, a lot of times you would get things allegedly from Wiki's owner wanting donations and money. Lately you get more from other people that are allegedly connected to the site. Only wikis I got to are Minecraft and Allegro.
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Dario ff
Member #10,065
August 2008
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{"name":"sopa.gif","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/2\/2\/22929a09e583d585ce527584b57b0ed2.gif","w":250,"h":250,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/2\/2\/22929a09e583d585ce527584b57b0ed2"}
TranslatorHack 2010, a human translation chain in a.cc. |
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Matthew Leverton said: I'm tired of seeing sites that say things like, "If SOPA passes then this site will be censored! OMG!L!!!" Then you do a WHOIS and it's registered to an American, hosted by an American company on an American network, and thus SOPA doesn't even apply. Except the only reason the last version of SOPA didn't apply, is because people had already started speaking up, or it WOULD have applied. True story. -- |
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Some things were ambiguous and/or different in prior versions, but that doesn't give a person the right to make up things about the latest version. And with regard to Wikipedia, they shouldn't take a side on the issue, let alone spread FUD. Individuals who work for them should be free to express their personal opinions, but the site itself should be neutral. If they want to bring up things like SOPA from time to time, fine... but both sides should be fairly represented. And if there is a call to action, it should be for both positions. They should link to petitions for and against it, etc. If Wikipedia et al. get to invoke the slippery slope regarding SOPA, then I ought to be able to invoke the slippery slope regarding them getting involved with politics. Next thing you know it, they will be blacking out the site when there is a constitutional amendment allowing first cousins to get married. |
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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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I do think that other site's have a better way to deal with the situation. Clearly wikipedia's method is just stupid. Most of the online comics I've read today so far are preceded by a short SOPA/PIPA rant, then the good stuff follows. Should probably have done the same at wikipedia. And yes, some of them are a little heavy on the hyperbole, but meh. -- |
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bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Matthew Leverton said: And with regard to Wikipedia, they shouldn't take a side on the issue, let alone spread FUD. Individuals who work for them should be free to express their personal opinions, but the site itself should be neutral. If they want to bring up things like SOPA from time to time, fine... but both sides should be fairly represented. And if there is a call to action, it should be for both positions. They should link to petitions for and against it, etc. If Wikipedia et al. get to invoke the slippery slope regarding SOPA, then I ought to be able to invoke the slippery slope regarding them getting involved with politics. Next thing you know it, they will be blacking out the site when there is a constitutional amendment allowing first cousins to get married.
In carrying out this protest, is Wikipedia abandoning neutrality? We hope you continue to trust Wikipedia to be a neutral information source. We are staging this blackout because (as Wikimedia Foundation Trustee Kat Walsh said recently), although Wikipedia’s articles are neutral, its existence is not. For over a decade, Wikipedians have spent millions of hours building the largest encyclopedia in human history. Wikipedia is a tremendously useful resource, and its existence depends upon a free, open and uncensored Internet. SOPA and PIPA (and other similar laws under discussion inside and outside the United States) will hurt you, because they will make it impossible for sites you enjoy, and benefit from, to continue to exist. That's why we're doing this.
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Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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I've read their excuse. My point still stands. |
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Trent Gamblin
Member #261
April 2000
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