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I Guess My Parachute Opened? |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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Neil Walker
Member #210
April 2000
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You think too much about things. Unless she's a complete minger, she probably gets asked out a dozen times a day. Neil. wii:0356-1384-6687-2022, kart:3308-4806-6002. XBOX:chucklepie |
van_houtte
Member #11,605
January 2010
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Bamccaig, I think you made the right choice with that drunk chick who knocked on your door. If you feel danger, I say go with your gut feeling. Logistically, tho, it would have been safer if you got her to go back to your apartment and messed around rather than at her place. You seem to get stressed and awkward. The best way to avoid these negative feelings is to get more experience, and there's no better way to get experience than to go and put yourself out there and eventually you will see success. Keep doing what you're doing, and put yourself in situations where you can interact with people. It's just like programming, you'll know which buttons to press and how to gauge reactions and how to get the reaction that you are seeking. ----- Sometimes you may have to send 3-4 messages |
Evert
Member #794
November 2000
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van_houtte said: You seem to get stressed and awkward. The best way to avoid these negative feelings is to get more experience, and there's no better way to get experience than to go and put yourself out there and eventually you will see success. Keep doing what you're doing, and put yourself in situations where you can interact with people. It's just like programming, you'll know which buttons to press and how to gauge reactions and how to get the reaction that you are seeking. +1. |
Karadoc ~~
Member #2,749
September 2002
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bamccaig said: What I do know is that I suck at making conversation. I can't even make conversation with family (e.g., aunts/uncles, parents, brother, etc.). I can talk about something specific, but I usually either have more to say then they care to listen to or I have nothing to say at all. I haven't figured out small talk yet. When I interact with people I always let them lead the conversation. I'm like this as well. I usually can't think of anything to say at all until something happens that catches my interest or someone says something that gets a train of thought rolling... ----------- |
axilmar
Member #1,204
April 2001
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bamccaig said:
What I do know is that I suck at making conversation. I can't even make conversation with family (e.g., aunts/uncles, parents, brother, etc.). I can talk about something specific, but I usually either have more to say then they care to listen to or I have nothing to say at all. You will not master smalltalk until you forget about it. Do you think people that can easily smalltalk are thinking "gee, now I am about to smalltalk"? they don't. They just relax and say the first thing they come out of their mouth. |
Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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axilmar said: Do you think people that can easily smalltalk are thinking "gee, now I am about to smalltalk"? they don't. They just relax and say the first thing they come out of their mouth. When you say it like that, it sounds like a very bad thing indeed. They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas. |
23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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Again, I'm sure there's FAQs for learning to socialize online if you really want some help. Or check your spam folder for something that says "Seduce any woman in 5 minutes!" or anything along those lines. -- |
Vanneto
Member #8,643
May 2007
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In capitalist America bank robs you. |
Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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Are we talking about Smalltalk or small talk? Small talk is a waste of time, so I avoid it. All silence is golden. But really, if you must, it's simple. Just ask the person a stupid question (about her) and then ignore her for the duration of her response. The key is to ask something that cannot be answered with a short response. When she has finished just ask, "So how does that make you feel?" It can go on for hours. |
Vanneto
Member #8,643
May 2007
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Matthew Leverton said: "So how does that make you feel?" Why does that strike me as so familiar... Was it a running gag here? In a movie? Series? I can't get rid of the feeling I've heard it before... In capitalist America bank robs you. |
23yrold3yrold
Member #1,134
March 2001
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If you get really good at it, you can charge 200 an hour to ask that question over and over ... -- |
van_houtte
Member #11,605
January 2010
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. ----- Sometimes you may have to send 3-4 messages |
BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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Matthew Leverton said: When she has finished just ask, "So how does that make you feel?" You can switch that up with "I understand" as well. |
Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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The goal is to keep them speaking though. The nods and "I understand" comments should be used while they are speaking in an effort to prevent a pause. |
Neil Black
Member #7,867
October 2006
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Matthew Leverton said: The goal is to keep them speaking though. The nods and "I understand" comments should be used while they are speaking in an effort to prevent a pause. Yes, I understand Matthew. And how does that make you feel?
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van_houtte
Member #11,605
January 2010
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since bamccaig likes rap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V1kt803W5w ----- Sometimes you may have to send 3-4 messages |
Neil Walker
Member #210
April 2000
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bamccaig said: I haven't figured out small talk yet There is no word for 'small talk' in German. According to an article (I think BBC) German's don't do small talk and think us British are telling lies when we do small talk when in fact it's just part of the way you do small talk (like, "I'll ring you next week"), etc. Neil. wii:0356-1384-6687-2022, kart:3308-4806-6002. XBOX:chucklepie |
Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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On the contrary, I can tell from my own observation, Germans DO smalltalk (they call it that as well) and way too much of it for my taste and I rarely participate because I don't give a fuck about most things. It's usually not a problem until people start feeling you don't like them just because you don't talk to them which is an assumption just as stupid as all the constant jibber jabber itself. --- 0xDB | @dennisbusch_de --- |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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van_houtte said: since bamccaig likes rap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V1kt803W5w
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Neil Black
Member #7,867
October 2006
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Dennis said: It's usually not a problem until people start feeling you don't like them just because you don't talk to them Which is why you need to make smalltalk with them. I've been trying (and failing) to do so myself with a girl I met recently.
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Mark Oates
Member #1,146
March 2001
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Small talk isn't easy. The reason being that all girls are different, and you need to find the small talk which that girl is into if you want to make any headway. Usually, though, it involves fun. "Girls just wanna have fun" is some pretty solid advice. -- |
Bruce Perry
Member #270
April 2000
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Vanneto's link said: If you know how to treat a girl right, you'll have her on your arm before you expect it. Not true and I really take issue with statements like that. Girls decide who they're interested in from across the room before the guys even notice them or do anything. (Guys do it too but perhaps with a greater acceptance ratio?) No amount of knowing how to treat the girl will help. You will still fail, and when you do, all the effort will have been for nothing and you will feel like this: By contrast, if she is interested, then you won't mess it up. Most of the stuff you're worried about will actually be attractive, and if you do make some mistakes then they'll be instantly forgiven. The only thing you need to do is look after your appearance and mood, and put yourself in places where a good number of girls get a chance to see you and decide if they're interested. Most of them won't be, but that doesn't matter. It mustn't matter. More thood for fought:
[EDIT] Vanneto said: Why does that strike me as so familiar... Was it a running gag here? In a movie? Series? I can't get rid of the feeling I've heard it before...
You might be thinking of ELIZA -- |
OICW
Member #4,069
November 2003
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Bruce Perry said: Let's suppose she has a boyfriend but is considering you. Try to imagine that you have a girlfriend but are considering another girl. How serious would you be? Ultimately you would have to choose between the two. How would the new girl feel? For that matter, how would the old girl feel? Returning to the present situation, if she left him for you, could you live with having upset another guy so badly? And most importantly, if she's like considering another guy while still in relationship, how high is your chance that she won't do it to you as well? Bruce Perry said: Not true and I really take issue with statements like that. Girls decide who they're interested in from across the room before the guys even notice them or do anything. Yes and no. There's also the undecided zone, where she decides you are interesting enough to give you a chance and evaluates your behaviour. That said, girls don't behave that simple. [My website][CppReference][Pixelate][Allegators worldwide][Who's online] |
Bruce Perry
Member #270
April 2000
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True - but my model (with your refinements if you like) is a lot more healthy than the one I'm challenging So if she wants to evaluate your behaviour, then there's no point in being fake, is there? You won't be happy, because you'll have to continue being fake. -- |
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