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Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Ok, I know this comes up a lot, but I actually have a small twist... I'm looking for people who want to share a dedicated box at some data-center. My current shared-hosting is just too inflexible, and relatively unstable (for outgoing connections, the rest seems fine). So what say ye? Who wants to share a dedicated box some place? Might also go for a decent VPS but I'd prefer a dedicated box... -- |
Indeterminatus
Member #737
November 2000
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I'm already settled here in Europe, but I take it the dedicated box you're referring to would be somewhere in the US/Canada? Depending on the price (and the things it offers) I might be interested. Do you already have something in mind? _______________________________ |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Indeterminatus said: I take it the dedicated box you're referring to would be somewhere in the US/Canada? Most likely. Quote: Depending on the price (and the things it offers) I might be interested. Do you already have something in mind? I figured interested parties would decide on where to go after discussing needed features, and budget. -- |
decepto
Member #7,102
April 2006
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Why not go with a VPS at Slicehost or Linode? Do you need a lot of system resources? -------------------------------------------------- |
bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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I might be willing to switch to different hosting. I tend to spend a lot of time on my server though (logged in to it all the time) and regularly experiment with it (writing and running software) so there's always the potential that I could nuke it. -- acc.js | al4anim - Allegro 4 Animation library | Allegro 5 VS/NuGet Guide | Allegro.cc Mockup | Allegro.cc <code> Tag | Allegro 4 Timer Example (w/ Semaphores) | Allegro 5 "Winpkg" (MSVC readme) | Bambot | Blog | C++ STL Container Flowchart | Castopulence Software | Check Return Values | Derail? | Is This A Discussion? Flow Chart | Filesystem Hierarchy Standard | Clean Code Talks - Global State and Singletons | How To Use Header Files | GNU/Linux (Debian, Fedora, Gentoo) | rot (rot13, rot47, rotN) | Streaming |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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decepto said: Why not go with a VPS at Slicehost or Linode? That'll be my final recourse. I'd prefer to have a dedicated box where I can run multiple virtual hosts myself. Quote: Do you need a lot of system resources? Not at the moment, but I'd also like to run asterisk and a few other things. And I've noticed that my VMs with 256MB or less tend not to perform so well with apache and mysql running. They do ok, but if a site ever gets even remotely busy, you're asking for trouble. I had to tweak the crap out of the apache and mysql configs on http://svn.tomasu.org to get it to run decently with 256MB ram, and still have some room for page/file cache (so it isn't constantly hitting the disks for files). append: bamccaig said: I might be willing to switch to different hosting. I tend to spend a lot of time on my server though (logged in to it all the time) and regularly experiment with it (writing and running software) so there's always the potential that I could nuke it. Thats the fun of running virtual machines. Anyone in on it could have their own test VMs to play with. No-one should be logging into the host instance on a regular basis. -- |
decepto
Member #7,102
April 2006
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Well, if you want to do a little fundraiser, I'd be willing to donate a little bit. The wiki has saved me a number of times. -------------------------------------------------- |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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decepto said: Well, if you want to do a little fundraiser, I'd be willing to donate a little bit. The wiki has saved me a number of times. This isn't particularly about the wiki, but I probably would move it to the new hosting if I found a good enough place. append: That is to say I'm looking for people to share the on going cost of a decent server, rather than one off donations (not that they would hurt anything though). -- |
m c
Member #5,337
December 2004
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I got a freebsd box at iweb that is underutilised. I could give a freebsd jail with it's own dedicated IP address, and set up ssh server and stuff within it, but I don't want to have to sort out the payments and I think it might be improper to just let someone use one of the IP when maybe it might get cancelled like it nearly did when my credit card expired . (\ /) |
ImLeftFooted
Member #3,935
October 2003
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I'd be down if we could somehow guarantee serious uptime. During the lunch and dinner rushes I really can't go down. |
Elias
Member #358
May 2000
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As I already said on IRC, I'd be interested. I wouldn't actually need my own apache as long as I have an account where I can put a wordpress install and point my domain to. And one or two background processes for irc bouncer and irc bot. I'm thinking of like 5$-10$ per month. -- |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Dustin Dettmer said: I'd be down if we could somehow guarantee serious uptime. During the lunch and dinner rushes I really can't go down. The chances of that (going down at a specific time) are usually slim, though it depends on the load your customers would put on the server. Really though even the best data centers can't do any better than "5 nines" which is 5.25600 minutes of downtime a year, though that can be quite expensive if they can actually provide such uptime (it means multi redundant connections to the internet, multi redundant UPSs and desil generators, multi redundant cooling systems, etc), and to make sure you could make use of that uptime would mean you'd need to have multiple servers hosted there, and possibly in other datacenters so you could instantly switch to another server should yours go down. So If you're willing to pay for it I can setup something that gets you "5 nines" or more. But its not going to be cheap. (multiple servers in multiple datacenters, each with expensive contracts ) Elias said: As I already said on IRC, I'd be interested. I wouldn't actually need my own apache as long as I have an account where I can put a wordpress install and point my domain to. And one or two background processes for irc bouncer and irc bot. I'm thinking of like 5$-10$ per month. Cool. So thats 2 or 3 people that might be interested. Should anyone want to talk about this in real-time, join #tomasu@irc.freenode.net -- |
BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: And I've noticed that my VMs with 256MB or less tend not to perform so well with apache and mysql running. How many instances of Apache and MySql are you running? And could you pick a worse httpd? |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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BAF said: How many instances of Apache and MySql are you running? And could you pick a worse httpd? I tweaked it all down to almost minimum counts. And I could pick a worse httpd. I'm running SVN via WEBDAV, Web::SVN, and trac. I don't think nginx or lighttpd would even handle those properly. -- |
BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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I don't see why Web::SVN or trac would depend on Apache. You could just run apache for svn, and run the rest on something else. |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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BAF said: I don't see why Web::SVN or trac would depend on Apache. You could just run apache for svn, and run the rest on something else. And now I have two separate httpd's running? Whats the point? Just run them all under apache. As for why they may depend on apache, One is perl, the other is PHP. So the httpd would have to handle both at the same time as well as not bing horribly slow at it (and I REALLY don't want to setup fcgi). -- |
le_y_mistar
Member #8,251
January 2007
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i thought you and baf were going to create a vps hosting company that was going to blow my (now defunct) vps company ----------------- |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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le_y_mistar said: i thought you and baf were going to create a vps hosting company that was going to blow my (now defunct) vps company We were. Though his priorities were not anywhere near what they needed to be if he was actually interested in doing it. I've got a bunch of the software written for it, may eventually start it up. We'll see. -- |
BAF
Member #2,981
December 2002
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: And now I have two separate httpd's running? Whats the point? Because Apache sucks. It's slow and resource hog. Cherokee works with php/perl just fine via fcgi, and is much faster and can handle more simultaneous requests than Apache. |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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BAF said: Cherokee works with php/perl just fine via fcgi, and is much faster and can handle more simultaneous requests than Apache. Again, fsck fcgi. I already have a decent setup and I only need to have a single httpd running. I also happen to care about ease of maintenance. -- |
le_y_mistar
Member #8,251
January 2007
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Thomas Fjellstrom said: We were. Though his priorities were not anywhere near what they needed to be if he was actually interested in doing it. I've got a bunch of the software written for it, may eventually start it up. We'll see. fail ----------------- |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Quote: fail Indeed. Money is a big issue. I currently don't have a lot. A base setup would probably cost $10k in hardware alone. (if I wanted to do it right) -- |
le_y_mistar
Member #8,251
January 2007
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edit......... ----------------- |
Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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If you have to stick with Apache HTTP server, then at least go with FastCGI. Having 100s of mod_php processes is a memory killer, especially considering a single instance of PHP is enough to handle a lot of requests. I recently switched a client's (old) server (256M RAM) from Apache 1.3 to lighttpd due to security audits, and page views were easily 3x faster. |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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I tweaked the apache settings quite a bit. I don't see any mod_php processes, and only: svn:~# ps aux | grep apache root 1980 0.0 1.6 143980 4244 ? Ss Jun19 0:09 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start www-data 5196 0.0 1.0 144112 2616 ? S Jun20 0:22 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start www-data 21677 0.0 1.6 203832 4136 ? Sl 15:55 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 3 apache processes. -- |
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