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Dream was real...
Felix-The-Ghost
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bamccaig said:

tell them to go ahead and pull the trigger. :-X

Not that it's happened before, but if I was lucid I'd do it and dodge the bullet Matrix/Albert Wesker style :P

The worst dreams I've recently been having is when I spend the night at a friends house and end up playing certain games until exhaustion and have dreams of tactically playing (Usually dying and learning endlessly from our mistakes) but I dream that I am awake and hallucinating (Or I am) and am trying to fall asleep like 'Just give me peace! I'm tired of getting pwned by this boss!'

Also I'm weary of 'Endless Roller Coaster' dreams of going up and down so much. I usually wake up and throw up from these. (When they occur) I had food poisoning from Burger King last month and before that I don't know the last time I vomitted. I had forgotten just how horrible the feeling is.

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Neil Black
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Not that it's happened before, but if I was lucid I'd do it and dodge the bullet Matrix/Albert Wesker style

I'm invulnerable in my dreams. I've been shot, fallen off a cliff, and eaten by zombies, but I've never died in a dream. Take that, Freddy Kreuger.

Sirocco
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I've had it frequenty, and emotionally I'd swear that I was fully conscious.

There is an immeasurable difference between possibly being lucid and actually being in that state. For me, that moment when I achieve lucidity is always very pronounced. Everything in the dream comes into focus, whereas normally much of the dreamscape is blurry and indistinct when you really stop to think about it. The entire area is razor sharp and amazingly detailed... it just seems to snap into focus. This is probably more noticeable as my vision is deteriorating slightly as I get older. In a dream, however, my vision is 20/20 or better.

I should also note it is possible to dream about being lucid, without actually being so. One easy way to tell is to try using a "power", such as flying or telekinesis. If it works, you're lucid. If you're not fully lucid your dream powers won't work. I have these events fairly often.

If you're ever lucid in a dream and can't figure out how to do something, ask another character in the dream for help. As long as you're not a total dick they will do whatever you ask. This is useful during your first few dreams when you might not be able to do things like summoning people/items, or changing scenes.

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Dario ff
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bamccaig said:

I know what you mean about the seriously disappointed

My worst example: I dream like if it was weekend, I wake up and find out that it's one of those 5 horrible days(Tuesday mostly).

I wonder if any of you ever had some weird apocalyptic dream. I dreamed one day that a freaking volcano appeared out of nowhere near I live. :o

Also, I'm curious what you mean with conscious dreaming. You mean you can have some control over other stuff in the dream(time, people, objects), or just what you do? I think I've been close to something like that, but most of the time they get interrupted by the alarm clock. :-/

Sirocco said:

If you're ever lucid in a dream and can't figure out how to do something, ask another character in the dream for help. As long as you're not a total dick they will do whatever you ask. This is useful during your first few dreams when you might not be able to do things like summoning people/items, or changing scenes.

You're being sarcastic right? Or you're able to do that much when you dream lucidly?

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Felix-The-Ghost
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Lucid dreaming is pretty much you're conscious mind (The thinker and observer) coexists with the subconscious mind (The creative part) in which physics and the like do not apply at all. (Unless, you want them to, or default to having them) Usually the subconscious rules in doing things you're accustomed to doing over and over and observing very little detail (basically anything recognized by subconscious), a 'passive dream' Whereas in an 'active' lucid dream you are master of your dream world in which you may command any aspect, since the whole dream merely exists in your imagination. You can do anything you want. I'm thinking about buying one of the machines I mentioned to induce lucid dreams. It truly is an alternate dimension -- dreamland. You need to come the the part of realizing you can master your dream to do what you want. Doesn't always happen. He suggested taking routes that seem more normal to 'learn' how to be abnormal :P

Pretty much in subconscious dreams things passively 'happen' to you whereas in a conscious (lucid) dream you decide what happens.

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Sirocco
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Dario ff said:

You're being sarcastic right? Or you're able to do that much when you dream lucidly?

I'm being completely serious. When I say lucid, I mean 100% conscious, with no discernible difference between that and reality aside from the fact that you're in a weird place and have full control over the dream. It's exactly like being awake, only you're not, and the rules of ordinary life no longer apply if you don't want them to :)

These are the rules of lucid dreaming:

Rule #1 - You can do anything you imagine as long as you believe you can.
Rule #2 - If you can't do something, reread rule #1.

Initially you might have trouble doing stuff because it seems totally real, so things that would endanger your life... such as walking off a cliff or jumping through a wall, will fall into the "I can't do THAT" category. And as I mentioned above, if you don't believe you can do it, chances are you won't! That's where dream characters come in. Usually you're not alone in the dream, right? Well, walk up to the nearest person and ask them for something. Anything. No request is too weird. Ask an old lady for a rocket launcher, or tell your taxi driver to drop you off on the ISS. I routinely ask people to open doors to different locations, since I'm not too good at teleporting yet.

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Dario ff
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You can do anything you want. I'm thinking about buying one of the machines I mentioned to induce lucid dreams. It truly is an alternate dimension -- dreamland.

Heh, when you put it that way, it sounds that if lucid dreaming was easy to do in the future, it could get addictive. ;D If real life isn't good, go and make your own dreamland? I mean, a personal playground where you can do whatever the hell you please? Sounds like the perfect form of entertainment, but a dangerous one too IMO.

Sirocco said:

such as walking off a cliff or jumping through a wall, will fall into the "I can't do THAT" category.

So it's basically The Matrix? Sounds awesome.

EDIT: BTW, sorry about thinking you were being sarcastic, it just sounded like you were practicing some Lucid dreaming secret art. :-X

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Sirocco
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Heh, no problem! It's just that we're familiar with how to get what we want. If you follow rules 1 & 2 you'll be just fine. Some people naturally have lucid dreams on a regular basis, and others (like myself, unfortunately) have them rarely and have to work hard to achieve the few that we have. I gotta keep working at it!

Go here if you want to know more about lucid dreams. It's... a pretty hefty subject!

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Dario ff
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Wow, that's kind of freaky, but thanks for the link! I don't know if I could ever achieve something like this(my dreams are normally an unorganized mess, and I tend to have tons of them in 1 night, I only remember if something REALLY prominent happens on them), but it's interesting that they novelize them. Though I wonder if they make up some parts of them just to give it a flow. :X

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Myrdos
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Sirocco said:

Next time, go flying.

That's what I do. :)

My dreams often play like complete movies, complete with plot, foreshadowing, and character development. But if I don't write them down, I forget them later in the day. And I usually don't feel like writing them down in the middle of the night.

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Kibiz0r
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I read that you can consciously enter a lucid dreaming state by laying on your back and resisting the urge to roll over. Apparently your brain tests whether you're still awake by telling you to roll over, and if you don't roll over then it starts super happy dream time. (Also sleep paralysis.)

I tried it last night; I definitely experienced part of sleep that I had never experienced before, but I completely failed the test and jolted awake as soon as I felt the urge to roll over.

Sirocco
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Yeah, that's referred to as WILD (wake induced lucid dream), and I've tried it exactly once... by accident. I was trying to sleep off a migraine, and was resting in bed just trying to let my mind wander. After about thirty minutes or so I started feeling very odd, and got racked by a series of powerful full-body trembles. I realized what was going on (I was starting to slip into sleep paralysis) but couldn't control my breathing, got terribly nervous, and after about a minute of that I snapped out of it. From what I've read, if you get the technique down pat it's a 100% guaranteed method of achieving a lucid dream.

If you remain still and stay calm, you'll pass into sleep paralysis, and then you can supposedly get up out of bed and walk into a dream, which is possible as your mind is awake, while your body is asleep. Again, never quite got that far. Gotta try again one day.

I'm more of a DILD (dream induced lucid dream) guy myself, so I rely on realizing that I'm dreaming to get into the proper state. It's less reliable, but doesn't require pretending to fall asleep for 20-30 minutes. I'm no good at that anyway!

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Ron Novy
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To the original post... High voltage, like that from a neon sign transformer can burn the skin like that. I was messing around with an old lightning ball a long time ago and I was suddenly getting in arc onto the edge of my hand... It didn't hurt but it burned the skin pretty well. Crazy as I am, I took it apart and continued to poke the edge of the main wire with my finger tip until you could no longer make out my fingerprint. I had to stop because the smell of vaporized flesh is not pleasant... I don't recommend trying it. ::)

[edit] Now that I'm logged in that picture looks a lot bigger... It does look like altered... Or maybe it's some kind of wart like infection...

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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The freakiest thing thats ever happened to me asleep is being aware that I needed to wake up, but I couldn't (very easily). I had to force myself to move, to break the sleep paralysis in order to wake myself up. I can do it occasionally. But its like lifting a couple tons.

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Felix-The-Ghost
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April 2008
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@Ron Novy: It's photoshopped/potatochopped with the mouth of a lamprey.

For those who get sleep paralysis

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^I wouldn't advise the mirror part, probably from my own fears, but I pinch and ask like it suggests. Also the alarm clock thing.

You don't have much to worry about in sleep unless you're Joseph Stalin (Paranoid guy, slept in a different room every night with identical looks)

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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I used to have sleep paralysis. Do you ever feel the decreasing consciousness of falling asleep? I'd do that, but suddenly I'd have a "wet blanket" dropped on me sort of a feeling. I'd have to concentrate especially hard to get myself to move, and when I did, the "wet blanket" feeling would leave. It makes for a long night when you don't fall entirely asleep, and you wonder about every little bump in the night.

As far as dreams, mine have been entirely boring lately, like I'm idly moving chess pieces around a board just for something to do. Although the last 6 months or so as I fall asleep I dream I'm on a 100 meter ladder or cliff and just decide to step off for some reason. I wake up feeling dreadful. It's not the usual "falling" dream, for those I dream I'm walking through tall grass and trip on something, so I'll throw my arms out to catch myself, but actually jerk myself up off the mattress.

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Mokkan
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February 2004
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I frequently wake up under the effects of sleep paralysis :(. The worst part is that, most of the time, it feels like I can't breathe, and it seems to take an eternity to be able to move again.

Regarding lucid dreaming, I don't believe I've ever experienced such a thing.

Neil Black
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I've never had sleep paralysis. The worst that ever happens to me is an odd sensation of falling and I suddenly jerk awake. That hasn't happened since I was a kid, though.

Vanneto
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May 2007

^I wouldn't advise the mirror part, probably from my own fears, but I pinch and ask like it suggests. Also the alarm clock thing.

I like to pinch my nose shut and try to breathe. In a dream you have no problem breathing. Its the most fool proof method I have encountered. Clocks are not always blurry. The same goes for faces in mirrors. I also frequently feel pain in dreams, so the nose thing works best.

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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I rarely actually dream as me. These days I'm sure I do sometimes. But used to be that I wouldn't ever actually be me. Or if I was, it was a sort of 3rd person view from behind like a crappy FPS.

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Felix-The-Ghost
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Or if I was, it was a sort of 3rd person view from behind like a crappy FPS.

No joke. I had a dream that was comparable to Call of Duty. The guy I was looking at was like dying on the floor in front of me and a noobie player poked around the corner caustiously, slowly walked to him and his pistol was like a freakin handcannon. It shot rapidly and when it did all the colors inverted and the [screen?] shook. I had to wake up cause I was scared. That was right when I was falling asleep -- 'Oh snap I'm dreaming!' But this is bad! So I woke myself up (Not fully aware that I was fine)

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