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Onewing
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August 2005
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I've decided insomnia sucks. I don't have full insomnia, probably more of a messed up internal clock. I've been trying to get on a more "normal" schedule and body seems to refuse, whether I'm tired or not. I just layed in bed for two and half hours and now I'm upset that two and half hours were wasted.

The other night, I tried pulling out the most boring book I had (something like, The Evolution to Object Retlational Databases) and read several chapters without blinking heavily. The worst part is I feel like I could go to sleep. I don't want to work on anything, because it feels like...well like I should go to sleep! Even worse, I can lay there and imagine all my stressful situations visually being put aside and lie there with nothing on my mind at all with no success.

I guess I'll try to get some work done.

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Jonatan Hedborg
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July 2004
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Try a light "sleep aid", like a Valerian-based product. Worked for me. Once I got my internal clock back in order, I didn't even need to use them anymore.

CGamesPlay
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July 2002
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Do you feel tired during the day? Are you getting enough sleep as is that you don't need to go to bed earlier?

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Onewing
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August 2005
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Do you feel tired during the day?

Actually, I feel tired all of the time as of late. Whenever I do actually go to sleep, I have a really hard time getting up. Several strategically placed alarm clocks barely even cut it now.

Maybe I'm a vampire?

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ixilom
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April 2006
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I'm having the same kind of problems.

  • Cannot sleep unless I'm dead tired

  • Trouble waking up, sometimes I turn off all my 3 alarms and continue sleeping an hour or two

Being in bed pondering about all kinds of mental/social issues you might have isn't going to help. I do that a lot :-/ Therapy would help?
Even when you think you are not thinking about these things, in a lucid state you might do that anyways without realizing it, which keeps you from falling asleep.

Another theory is that I'm not physically activated enough. I sit on my arse most of my day. No exercise means you have excess energy when you go to bed.

For me at least this means that I usually sleep about 4-5 hours a night, until I can't do that anymore and sleep a good 11-13 hours straight to regain all the lost sleep/rest.

And before someone says I need to provide some sort of study about the things I mentioned above. I can't, those are just my own observations and reasoning.

Just my two cents.

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Onewing
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August 2005
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Being in bed pondering about all kinds of mental/social issues you might have isn't going to help. I do that a lot

I'll do that, but if I know I have a big day coming up, I can usually forget about that and think about something pleasant (like being stranded on a tropical island, miles away from the rest of the world). I imagine the thoughts still linger in my subconscious though.

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Therapy would help?

Normally, when things get bad, my wife and I lean on each other to keep each other propped up. Unfortunately, we've both been hit pretty hard this past year and any leaning turns into lashing at each other which is always highly regrettable. We've discussed therapy as an option. Then again, by the time we could afford it, we may not need it, heh.

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those are just my own observations and reasoning.

Seems pretty reasonable to me (and similar).

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le_y_mistar
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January 2007
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that should knock you out.

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ixilom
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April 2006
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So will hitting yourself in the head with a hammer ::)

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Mark Oates
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So will hitting yourself in the head with a hammer ::)

I'd prefer the joint.

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bamccaig
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July 2006
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@Onewing: I am very much like you right now. I stay up late, can't sleep at night, and find waking up in the morning extremely difficult. I'm also really tired all day long until around the evening when I start to feel a little bit more awake. Repeat.

Normally I enjoy laying in bed thinking and dreaming. I also normally sleep really well (I often stay awake late thinking/dreaming, but have dreams almost every night and wake up disappointed to be ripped away from my dream world). I think I'm in a bottling state, perhaps bracing for impact (?), where what I normally think, dream about, and work through (vent) is unavailable.

@ixilom: I can also relate to the 4 - 5 hours of sleep until it becomes too much and then recover with a 12 - 13 hour sleep. I did this through much of college and this past week or two feels like it's heading in that direction.

Also: ;D

I've actually been up for approximately 25.5 hours (since around 11AM yesterday morning; it is currently just shy of 12:30PM). I'll probably stay up until sometime this evening when I "pass out"... :P

** EDIT **

Fixed waking hours (the day before was Saturday... No way I got up at 8AM... ;D)

OICW
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November 2003
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I think it's just broken up schedule. I have difficulties waking up, but don't mind going to bed at 2am. Then when I get up at 11am I still feel tired. And seem not to be able to change it, though I'd like to.

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Goalie Ca
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July 2002
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Hmm..

I only have insomnia problems when

1) get drunk.. for some reason i always wake up early after going to sleep very late
2) have unresolved mental issues (i have to go to sleep having thought everything through)
3) blue ball'd :/

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let me elaborate on #2. For some reason before i go to bed I usually replay the day and try to understand everything that happened. I have no idea why but I do all the time. If i'm not able to process it all for some reason (get stuck in a loop) then I can't sleep. It's quite amazing that I always fall asleep at the end.

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Vanneto
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May 2007

Heh, #1 Is quite the opposite for me, I could sleep for a day.

But for #2, you are not alone. I know how you feel. When I go to sleep, I usually think about what happened during the course of the day. I could do this for hours.

The worst is when I screw something up badly, then I just keep thinking about how I could prevent it and what could be done different. In these cases, I usually don't sleep for hours, I'm also nervous all the time. Sucks badly...

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decepto
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April 2006
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I have chronic insomnia. I use Ambien CR, and it works nicely. It help keeps my sleep schedule completely normal.

I've considered trying medical marijuana, but it's just too much of a legal hassle right now in the states. I'd rather take a hit from a vaporizer than take a pill.

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bamccaig
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July 2006
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Goalie Ca said:

let me elaborate on #2. For some reason before i go to bed I usually replay the day and try to understand everything that happened. I have no idea why but I do all the time. If i'm not able to process it all for some reason (get stuck in a loop) then I can't sleep. It's quite amazing that I always fall asleep at the end.

That was really well said. I think it applies pretty accurately to me as well. Although I don't just process the day, but weeks, months, years; whatever remains in an unresolved state.

Goalie Ca
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Although I don't just process the day, but weeks, months, years; whatever remains in an unresolved state.

Exactly, because even seemingly unrelated events can be connected somehow or someway. Sometimes I will even observe something today and see something old in a different light.

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Neil Black
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October 2006
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I have the same problem occasionally (like just last night). It sucks, but there's not a whole lot I can do about it.

Paul whoknows
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September 2004
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Go to the gym, train hard, you'll sleep like a polar bear in coma.

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piccolo
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January 2003
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Quote:

Go to the gym, train hard, you'll sleep like a polar bear in coma.

2nd

but you dont even have to go to the gym.

do a few piccolo push-ups aka (handstand) and a few rounds of shadow boxing.

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LennyLen
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December 2004
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I'd couple Jonaton's suggestion with watching your dietry intake. Try to cut out all caffeine, guarana, etc. and limit your calorie intake to your daily requirement.

Neil Black
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October 2006
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Go to the gym, train hard, you'll sleep like a polar bear in coma.

The gym won't let me because I have a heart condition.

I know I'm fine to exercise (if I wasn't I'd be dead already, with the activities I've done), but they want approval from a cardiologist.

Onewing
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August 2005
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Go to the gym, train hard, you'll sleep like a polar bear in coma.

Yeah, I've been wanting to get back into exercising. I set some goals on Wii fit and such. :D However, I've been feeling really crappy lately and I'm supposed to get some blood work done in a few days (not sure that's going to reveal anything though).

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