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Indiana Jones 4
Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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I don't know when this comes out in various international territories, but it came out here in the UK last Thursday. I saw it last night. Has anyone else seen it? If so, what did you think?

nonnus29
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August 2002
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I thought it was pretty good (qualification: for this type of movie). If you like the first three, you'll like this one. One thing that amuses me is the fact that during the 15 minute car chase with characters fighing in between vehicles, no one ever thinks to stop.

Vanneto
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May 2007

I saw it. It wasn't bad. Certainly very watchable. First I didn't want to go watch it, because the critics for the movie were negative. I'm glad I watched it. :)

But maybe thats because I'm a big fan of Harrison Ford and the whole Indiana Jones fourology. :P

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Evert
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November 2000
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I haven't seen it yet (going to see it next weekend), but I did read some of the reviews on IMDB (I tend to read the critical reviews, although I often find that the criticism is not very well motivated).

A lot of the criticism seems to be "thin plot", "kingdom of crystal skull not mentioned at all in movie" and "surviving things no one should be able to survive without a scratch". Well, guess what? I watched Raiders of the Lost Ark again last night and that has a rather thin plot as well and some pretty unlikely action sequences as well (I'm specifically refering to the one where Indy crawls underneath a moving lorry to get to the back, then climb back to the front and cick the driver out of the car with his legs by swinging from the roof of the cabin, all after having been shot in his arm, but there are others). The temple in Temple of Doom is also never refered to as the Temple of Doom on screen either. So I'm going to watch the movie with the mindset that such criticism is unfounded and hope to have some fun. :)

(I do know most of the plot already, but I won't comment on that for the benefit of those who don't want to know).

OICW
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November 2003
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It was released last thursday as well, I plan to go see it, unfortunatelly I don't seem to have much time to go, nor somebody to go with.

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GullRaDriel
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September 2003
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I have good time watching it.
It's Indiana Jones, and "ça troue toujours le cul, Indiana Jones".

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Slartibartfast
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June 2007
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I saw it last Friday, pretty nice.
Though of course, the plot is a bit far-fetched, and so is the action. But it's not like your average action movie doesn't have the same faults.

Todd Cope
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November 2000
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It's a good movie.

Thomas Harte
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April 2000
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Did anyone else think, especially vis a vis the ending, that it's a shame George Lucas had to be involved?

ReyBrujo
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January 2001
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It is like Matrix, a movie to watch at home on some air channel, not cinema. So I will be watching it in 3 or 4 years.

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Rey: you mean M: Reloaded and Revolutions right?

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Did anyone else think, especially vis a vis the ending, that it's a shame George Lucas had to be involved?

Judging from the reviews, there's lots of people who think that, yes.
I can't comment myself, of course. Not yet.

Arthur Kalliokoski
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I watched Raiders of the Lost Ark again last night and that has a rather thin plot as well and some pretty unlikely action sequences as well

I've noticed that in general for all old movies. Cynicism grows with age.

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Rey: you mean M: Reloaded and Revolutions right?

All of them. Just like Spider-Man. Very few movies are worth the entrance for me, none in the last 10 or so years. But then again, the last movie I thought worth it was X-Men 2, just because I went with many friends.

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OICW
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I've noticed that in general for all old movies. Cynicism grows with age.

When I was young I've hated how parents forbided me from watching action flicks with van Damme, Lundgren, Stalone, Schwarzenneger, Willis etc. Now I'm glad they did so with honourable exception of Terminator, Die Hard, Last scout and some others. 8-)

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a movie to watch at home on some air channel, not cinema. So I will be watching it in 3 or 4 years.

Hmmm, I disagree. Movies like this aren't meant to be artistic or a "good read." They're meant to be fun and taken lightly. Going to see them on the big screen with friends is part of the fun (along with extra-butter popcorn and milkduds you spend twenty minutes unwedging from your teeth).

Of course, nowadays, this experience can be nearly the same at home with all the improvements in TV's and whatnot.

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Thomas Harte
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I watched Raiders of the Lost Ark again last night and that has a rather thin plot as well and some pretty unlikely action sequences as well

I've noticed that in general for all old movies. Cynicism grows with age.

Surely you don't literally mean all old movies? The plot of The Big Sleep isn't that thin, and all the action sequences in North by Northwest are perfectly probable. And have solid plot bases.

In fact, while watching Indiana Jones, I immediately wanted to shout "make a public scene" at the screen when the KGB guys have turned up with guns at the cafe, as I was specifically thinking of the scene in the auction house in North by Northwest.

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When I was young I've hated how parents forbided me from watching action flicks with van Damme, Lundgren, Stalone, Schwarzenneger, Willis etc. Now I'm glad they did so with honourable exception of Terminator, Die Hard, Last scout and some others.

If we're talking low brow enjoyment, then I'd add Total Recall to the list. But I much prefer the Indiana Jones movies to any of them.

OICW
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If we're talking low brow enjoyment, then I'd add Total Recall to the list. But I much prefer the Indiana Jones movies to any of them.

I want to see it, just because I'd like to know how much they screwed the original short story... plus I want some mindless action :)

Anyway I prefer Bruce Willis films than any other - at least there's lot of humour in them.

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axilmar
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April 2001

What a let down! in the last hour, the dialogs are limited to 'watch that', 'oh my god', 'be careful' etc!!! the riddles are...what riddles? a hole in a door that matches exactly the skull...only one skeleton in the room with a missing skull...the plot is revealed in the first ten minutes, and after that there is no mystery whatsoever...LeBeouf acted like a beef (no coincidence here), Blanchett's talent is wasted, the Marion character is there simply to tell Indy he has a son...Indy's involvement in the affairs was minimal (in most cases we was an onlooker, especially towards the end of the movie). He didn't even use his whip!

The only time it felt like an Indiana Jones movie was the car chase, when the characters threw quite clever lines to each other, and the action was really good. The rest was a big yawn.

I watched yesterday the movie "Zabriskie Point". An excellent movie. They don't know how to make good movies nowadays, simply because the only motivation is profit. 25 years ago, Spielberg and Lucas had ideas and wanted to implement them. Nowadays they are bored and ultimately boring.

By the way, if they are looking for a good Indiana Jones script, they should look no further than the game 'Fate of Atlantis'. Excellent humor, amazing riddles, good enemies, thick plot.

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nonnus29
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August 2002
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I fear for the next Star Trek movie that it's going to be a complete flop.

I agree.

jhuuskon
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April 2000
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Funny that The Big Sleep was mentioned here, I was just thinking how modern films don't seem to be able to match the storytelling brilliance or old flics.

Yes, I've fallen in love with noir in particular and old films in general.

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Slartibartfast
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He didn't even use his whip!

He used it a bit in the very beginning, to take a gun from a Russian military dude. I think he also used it to swing from the top beams in that same warehouse.

BAF
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December 2002
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I saw the movie twice, and fell asleep (albeit in different parts) each time. I've seen most of the movie as of the second time I saw it.

Of course, I was tired each time I went, and the movie seemed to drag along and bored me to sleep. It was far fetched and pretty unrealistic. I didn't really care for it.

Onewing
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August 2005
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BAF must have a "lady-friend." ;D Why else would he see a movie he "didn't really care for" twice.

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Vanneto
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May 2007

He saw it twice, that means he has two lady friends. :o

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