Evert: that's believable. It's really sad, I wonder what would they say if the ID would say 31st january for instance. Besides I'd really argue with them to use some normal format for a date.

Ehm, it's normal as a mile, isn't it? So if you want to be original, just make sure you know there are other more practical formats, like DD-MM-YYYY. Because I could be in such trouble too considering the fact that I was born on 10th of July.

What? You mean that by your rules my birthday is on the twelfth of June?

Not in the rest of the world it isn't.

Of course it doesn't make sense. What do you care about more? The day or the month? Do you also say (and write) "15:14" if you mean quarter past two in the afternoon?

Me being so cultured as to have actually spoken about the issue with people outside of the country, I am aware of your different conventions.

Although it's a rhetorical question, I care more about the month in most cases. However, while I understand the inconsistency of using MM/DD/YYYY, it makes perfect sense to me, because I read it as "Month Day'th, Year", and not "Day'th of Month, Year".

You can't win this argument, and neither can I. Let's talk about which side of the egg to crack instead.

Kinda walking off-topic here, but I find DD-MM-YYYY (or YYYY-MM-DD) much more logical in structure than MM-DD-YYYY, because they derive a value from another (year's month's day). But if the US wants to keep their out-dated non-standard units of measurement, that's fine with me. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

EDIT: To correct what I meant by logical is that the values go from large to small or small to large rather than being semi-random gibberish

Yes, you should be fine with it, not the other way around.

My ID-card looks something like that but with glasses:
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As you can see the birthdate is there in format DD.MM.YYYY. That piece of plastic is equivalent of paper passports in all Europe and probably in Schengen countries also.

Actually no but we have similar hair. That one is the stock photo of the ID card. I don't have a photo of my own.

Hey... cows don't have paws!

I wonder what they would say on such an ID

Hehe!

My driver's license looks like:

http://users.adelphia.net/~abedenko/sample2.JPG

Except in red letters, vertically, to the right of my picture, it says UNDER 21, and everybody under 21 was automatically issued a new license via mail. So basically, they just check to see if your ID says "UNDER 21" or not.

[edit] I also meant to point out that the new NY licenses/permits don't point out MM-DD-YY format.