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how to make my character 3D |
William Labbett
Member #4,486
March 2004
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hi, I've attached a screenshot of my WIP game. The way the game area is drawn as you will see is an attempt to have a bit of 3D-ness using just sprites. I want to change things so that the camera is above the play area and sides of the blocks are drawn properly in perspective. Also the sides of all the edge walls will be visible as oppose to just the wall at the top. I think I can do this without much trouble but then I'll need to draw the little man in perspective too otherwise he just won't look convincing. So what I'm wondering is - how dificult will this be. I've never used models before but I'd like to have a go. I'd like to know what the simplest way of approaching this is ? Any suggestions ? Will http://allegro.cc/files/attachment/591208
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gnolam
Member #2,030
March 2002
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BMP is not a web-appropriate format, dammit! Quote: I want to change things so that the camera is above the play area and sides of the blocks are drawn properly in perspective. Also the sides of all the edge walls will be visible as oppose to just the wall at the top. Explain. -- |
William Labbett
Member #4,486
March 2004
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It's not all that easy to explain but I'll try. At the moment the top of blocks are drawn and a little bit of the side facing 'southward' of each block is drawn if it's visible. If the viewpoint was moved to above the game area in the middle the blocks would need to be drawn differently - say a block was in the top-right corner - some of the righthand side would be visible and some of the southern side too.
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Audric
Member #907
January 2001
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The shadows ar already nice. If you want the game to look prettier, I think the only thing you need to do is make the sides of the blocks a consistent color with their top. It would greatly improve the sense of depth. |
Kikaru
Member #7,616
August 2006
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Add shading to the character, have him cast a shadow. Do those, then look at it. Looks pretty nice so far, though. |
Paul whoknows
Member #5,081
September 2004
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Quote: how to make my character 3D Make your character 3D, and use pre-rendered sprites. ____ "The unlimited potential has been replaced by the concrete reality of what I programmed today." - Jordan Mechner. |
Kibiz0r
Member #6,203
September 2005
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I'd be willing to model it for you. I'll try rigging and animating it too, but I'm not very experienced with that. Credentials: http://www.flickr.com/photos/67641704@N00/381353283/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/67641704@N00/64991934/ --- |
William Labbett
Member #4,486
March 2004
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Quote: Audric: The shadows ar already nice. If you want the game to look prettier, I think the only thing you need to do is make the sides of the blocks a consistent color with their top. It would greatly improve the sense of depth. yup, that's a definite to do at the mo'. My plan was to have a different side for each type of shape but they'll look better if they're a consistent brightness. Quote: Kikaru: Add shading to the character, have him cast a shadow. Do those, then look at it. Looks pretty nice so far, though. Thanks. Nice to get a compliment. Shading on the character - I'll get to work. I haven't really spent a lot of time on the character graphics yet. I've got a lot more I'd like to do. KibizOr I'd except your offer with great pleasure. Your work suggests you've grafted at making graphics. Thing is though regarding my project is that at the moment it's not the 3D game I'd like it to be. I don't want to waste anyone's time. It might be better if make the request when I really need a model - ie the rest of the game is finished. Thanks for your offer - it's nice to know there's such generous people about. We'll see how it goes. Thanks to all for the replies. BTW - sorry about the .bmp - I'll know for next time. [edit] Also, sorry I can't reply more promptly. I have to come to a internet cafe plus a lot of allegro.cc members live in USA whereas I'm in England - we're up at different times.
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Audric
Member #907
January 2001
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You may want to have a look at Egoboo, it uses low-poly models, based on the rather-standard MD2 format. As it's GPL, you can probably borrow one of the models until you make your own. Here's an animated screenshot of the editor Golem in action: |
William Labbett
Member #4,486
March 2004
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Thanks Is there a library associated with the MD2 format ? Does it involve a lot of learning ?
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Audric
Member #907
January 2001
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Google shows several snippets to load the format. Was already dicussed here, can't help you further. |
piccolo
Member #3,163
January 2003
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You can make him 3d by cutting him up in to parts. I working on a system for the same thing. after you cut in to parts such as head, legs, torso, and arms then you draw each part to the right layer at the right x and y so it dose looks like one sprite. EDit: http://www.allegro.cc/files/depot/964/char_spite_editor2.zip If you move the men to the top of the screen you will see the part disappear because only parts on the screen are drawn. wow |
Kikaru
Member #7,616
August 2006
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Piccolo, I don't think you quite got it. He was asking a slightly different question, I believe. |
Kibiz0r
Member #6,203
September 2005
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Quote: ... Your work suggests you've grafted at making graphics. ... I'm what? Anyway, you wouldn't have to go true 3d, I was thinking I would just render the frames and you could take care of it in code. Also, I'm not really that great. I have a modelling and animation class, and I'd really just say I'm average. I'm just looking for more experience. --- |
Audric
Member #907
January 2001
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Kibiz0r : probably means "gifted at your craft" |
William Labbett
Member #4,486
March 2004
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I wasn't accusing you of being anything. It wasn't a you're, it was a you've as in you have. In english when someone's worked hard we say he's done some hard graft. [edit] Quote: Also, I'm not really that great. I have a modelling and animation class, and I'd really just say I'm average. I'm just looking for more experience.
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Wilson Saunders
Member #5,872
May 2005
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Are you trying to do something like this? {"name":"591232","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/5\/1\/5139733335f7428c05d195ced6a314fd.jpg","w":499,"h":481,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/5\/1\/5139733335f7428c05d195ced6a314fd"} ________________________________________________ |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Quote: In english when someone's worked hard we say he's done some hard graft. Which english? And why have I never heard it before ever, from canadians, americans or british folk? -- |
X-G
Member #856
December 2000
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graft n 1: (surgery) tissue or organ transplanted from a donor to a recipient; in some cases the patient can be both donor and recipient [syn: transplant] 2: the practice of offering something (usually money) in order to gain an illicit advantage [syn: bribery] 3: the act of grafting something onto something else [syn: grafting] v 1: cause to grow together parts from different plants; "graft the cherry tree branch onto the plum tree" [syn: engraft, ingraft] 2: in surgery [syn: transplant] Nope, never heard the expression either, and neither has any dictionary I can find. You're just making it up. -- |
William Labbett
Member #4,486
March 2004
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I can perhaps understand why someone for whom english isn't a second language might think so. But otherwise that's a bit crazy. Graft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaIn American slang of the mid-1800s, graft was used to mean work. By the late 1800s, ... Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graft" ... Quote: Wilson Saunders: Are you trying to do something like this?
Thanks Wilson
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X-G
Member #856
December 2000
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So it's 19th century slang? Why are you using it 200 years after it went out of style? And most of all, why are you surprised when no one understands what you mean? -- |
William Labbett
Member #4,486
March 2004
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Quote: Why are you using it 200 years after it went out of style? Loads of people still use it today. Quote: And most of all, why are you surprised when no one understands what you mean? -- Because I didn't realise how ignorant some of you are. Now I know why Jesus was crucified.
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X-G
Member #856
December 2000
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I'd say the fact that up to now, you're the only one who's heard of it indicates that no, lots of people do in fact not use it today, and you are the one using obscure lingo. Edit: And I don't just mean in this thread. I mean ever. I have never in my life ever heard anyone use the word "graft" like that. -- |
Thomas Fjellstrom
Member #476
June 2000
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Quote: Because I didn't realise how ignorant some of you are. Um, So most of Canada, The States, and Britian is ignorant? It's just not used by ANYONE I've ever heard talking. ever. -- |
William Labbett
Member #4,486
March 2004
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http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-har1.htm Quote: Um, So most of Canada, The States, and Britian is ignorant? It's just not used by ANYONE I've ever heard talking. ever.
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So hard graft was heavy digging, in later years any kind of hard manual labour, and so figuratively any gruelling task. There, it survives in Britain and Australia. I don't tell X - G how to speak Swedish. Why ? Because I know nothing about it.
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