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		<title>Wireless router questions from a n00b</title>
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		<webMaster>matthew@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</webMaster>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I&#39;ve been running this computer on a cable modem connected by a short Ethernet cable for about a year now.  Now I have a couple of roomies who want to share the connection via wireless.  Could we swap out the cable modem for a wireless broadcaster type thing that wouldn&#39;t actually have physical connections to any computer or does one computer have to be on 24/7?  How reliable/fast is this wireless stuff?  The ISP (Charter) web site has a page supposedly about wireless but the page just says it has some special software and how great it is to bundle TV and telephone in the same package.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Arthur Kalliokoski)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Just plug a wireless router into the cable modem. Plug your computer into the router. (Your computer doesn&#39;t have to be on.) Your roommates can use the WiFi.</p><p>If you have the router clone your MAC address before you hook it up to the cable modem, your ISP won&#39;t even know anything has changed.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Ah!  Thank you!  I&#39;ll wait a bit to see if anyone else has anything to say before I hand out the cookies.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Arthur Kalliokoski)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I don&#39;t have any way to tell if anything has changed. I grew up on the east coast (Canada) and there was more snow than air in the winter. Where I live now we get a few small snowfalls a year. And I&#39;m in the Rockies. You&#39;d figure it would snow more where everyone skies but apparently it only snows at the higher elevations around here. Temperature wise, it&#39;s very mild here too most of the time, though I would wager it used to be colder here in the winter, based on living here about 10 years and a few years in Calgary 100KM from here.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Trent Gamblin)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Arthur Kalliokoski)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Trent... Dude... You posted in the wrong thread... Search for the &quot;winter&quot; thread, remember, the &quot;winter&quot; thread...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (AMCerasoli)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>How did this happen. I blame AMCerasoli. Carry on.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Trent Gamblin)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>ISPs nowadays provide router/modem combos that do the whole deal. Since you mention you already have a cable modem that provides you an ethernet port, just buy any wifi router in the 30-60$ range. I prefer linksys devices for home routing.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (van_houtte)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/609277/943734#target">Trent Gamblin</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p> How did this happen. I blame AMCerasoli. Carry on.</p></div></div><p>hahaha, nah man... Now you gonna have to post something about a router in the &quot;winter&quot; thread to balance things up... <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (AMCerasoli)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/609277/943735#target">van_houtte</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p>ISPs nowadays provide router/modem combos that do the whole deal. </p></div></div><p>And they all suck. But otherwise I agree. Get a decent Wifi router and be done with it.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I have a combo modem/router (and VoiP and Digital TV over Coax) but because I had a crazy DD-WRT, I just disabled the WiFi on the ISP router and use my own.</p><p>Currently, my DD-WRT is the only way I know how much bandwidth I use a month right now...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (MiquelFire)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (van_houtte)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>OK thanks!</p><p>[EDIT]</p><p>Well, they called the ISP and asked about this, and were told that if a router we bought destroyed the cable modem, we&#39;d have to pay for the cable modem, but with <i>their</i> router, the cable modem is under warranty or some such.  It doesn&#39;t really matter, since I plan on moving out in the next couple of months to avoid the 80 decibel drama at all hours anyway.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Arthur Kalliokoski)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>That just sounds like they&#39;re trying to hustle you. I see no reason why a wireless router would <i>possibly</i> damage the modem (aside from maybe catastrophic failure, like a fire). I&#39;d just tell them to go <span class="cuss"><span>fuck</span></span> themselves. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/undecided.gif" alt=":-/" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (bamccaig)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I&#39;m overruled by majority vote.  I know you guys don&#39;t have a vested interest, but we&#39;re talking average Americans here.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Arthur Kalliokoski)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I meant the ISP, not your roommates. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /> Get a cheap wireless router (or make your roommates get it if they&#39;re the ones that are going to use it) and be done with it. Should be easy to setup and there&#39;s no reason it shouldn&#39;t work (I guess do the MAC cloning ML suggested if your ISP would affect service based on the device connected to the modem, but I don&#39;t imagine they&#39;d care...).
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (bamccaig)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>&quot;The experts&quot; told them it was better, therefore we&#39;re going to do it that way.  I&#39;m also selling all my auto repair tools for the same reason, no use doing things at a cut rate to get the business only to have Joe Sixpack tell the customer that &quot;it&#39;s not how daddy fixed it&quot;.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Arthur Kalliokoski)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>If you still have a pc that connects through ethernet, you&#39;ll want a wired/wireless router. Or a wireless card for the pc. The cable company is trying to hustle you on thier router. I had several of my own without a problem. We replaced the modem once, most likely due to age.  Trent, I think global warming caused you to post in the wrong thread.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Bob Keane)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I found out the cable company will be by Thursday with the new router for the low, low price of $15 per month forever.  I guess this is like buying a new router or cable modem every 4 months.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Arthur Kalliokoski)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 06:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>But if it breaks, they&#39;ll replace it for free.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>So if I broke something every 4 months I&#39;d be just as well off?  How about I don&#39;t break it?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Arthur Kalliokoski)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>How about you call your ISP and tell them to go <span class="cuss"><span>fuck</span></span> themselves because you&#39;ve discovered that <tt>&lt;insert_other_one_here&gt;</tt> is way better? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/angry.gif" alt="&gt;:(" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (bamccaig)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Its not really his ISP, and I don&#39;t think he cares.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>if you dont feel comfortable with all the networking equipment being suggested i highly recommend you follow your ISP&#39;s recommendation as they will be the ones providing you and your room mates live phone support when things go wrong, not us.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (van_houtte)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>They&#39;ll pull a yves and say they don&#39;t support Linux.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Arthur Kalliokoski)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>i support linux for a living, i just dont support mac &amp; amigaos <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cry.gif" alt=":&#39;(" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (van_houtte)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/609277/943918#target">van_houtte</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p> i support linux for a living</p></div></div><p>I thought you supported AmigaOS. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/huh.gif" alt="???" /></p><p>[EDIT]</p><p>The cable guy came along and set up this new modem, and replaced a faulty box outside while he was at it.  But I googled for the modem model number etc. and I think it&#39;s kinda sorta wide open, but if I change stuff from the defaults then I suppose the ISP would get all bent outta shape.  Yep, time to move...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Arthur Kalliokoski)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 00:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>You actually think they&#39;d notice? Unless you&#39;re uncapping the modem, they don&#39;t really give a <span class="cuss"><span><span class="cuss"><span>shit</span></span></span></span> what you do, at least until you call up asking for support.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (BAF)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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