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		<title>[SH11] db - Green Grappler</title>
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		<webMaster>matthew@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</webMaster>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><h3>Downloads</h3><p>
<a href="http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/604567">Windows binary</a><br /><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/604568">Source</a></p><h3>Controls</h3><p>
You control the player with the arrow keys and fire the grappler with left control. There is also experimental support for Xbox360 controller implemented. To exit levels, simply press escape.</p><h3>Hints on how to get the baby to compile in Linux</h3><p>
We use precompiled headers, and the header is called Precompiled.hpp. However, we do not include it in the source, we instead relay on the fact that we can tell Visual Studio to force include a header into each file. The same functionality is present in XCode, so I bet there is a GCC option floating around that does the same. Also, we use <a href="http://dumb.sourceforge.net/">Dumb</a> and <a href="http://code.google.com/p/tmx-parser/">TMX-parser</a> which sources are not included in the source package.</p><p>Have fun!</p><p><b>Edit:</b><br />I&#39;ve updated the source package to contain the complete source, that is with the external dependencies (not including Allegro) and the Visual Studio project files if anyone wants to compile the game themselves. It might also ease how to compile on Linux by looking at the Visual Studio project files. The actual game source is the same as in our submitted entry.</p><p><b>Edit2:</b><br />Looks like we screwed up with the TMX-parser license in the Speedhack version. It&#39;s <i>not</i> copyrighted by me and Per, but copyrighted by Tamir Atias. Sorry for that Tamir, it was a copy paste error by me.</p><p><span class="remote-thumbnail"><span class="json">{"name":"604509","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/f\/5\/f53f979e8d7465553312863614cf3ce7.png","w":646,"h":505,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/f\/5\/f53f979e8d7465553312863614cf3ce7"}</span><img src="http://www.allegro.cc//djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net/image/cache/f/5/f53f979e8d7465553312863614cf3ce7-240.jpg" alt="604509" width="240" height="187" /></span><br /><span class="remote-thumbnail"><span class="json">{"name":"604510","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/9\/d\/9d95881541b45a62622bbb6785281040.png","w":646,"h":505,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/9\/d\/9d95881541b45a62622bbb6785281040"}</span><img src="http://www.allegro.cc//djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net/image/cache/9/d/9d95881541b45a62622bbb6785281040-240.jpg" alt="604510" width="240" height="187" /></span>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Næssén)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 02:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Good game mechanics, fun little game. There are at least two levels I think are impossible though - Grapplin heaven, and glider. The colors are way too dark and desaturated for my taste though.</p><p>Edit<br />I managed to beat those two levels I thought were impossible. I just needed to learn to use my momentum to move more effectively. Good job completing an actual full game in just a weekend. Amazing.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Edgar Reynaldo)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Working fine there.</p><p>Impressive little game, as Ed said. But unlike him I like the gameboy color style style it has ^^
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>AMAZING! Just fantastic. Good job man.
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Neil Walker)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Some levels were much harder than others but I beat the game eventually.  Very well done.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/607911/925730#target">Edgar Reynaldo</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p>Good job completing an actual full game in just a weekend.</p></div></div><p>A lot of the game looks to have already existed before the competition and it was a team of people working on it but it&#39;s still incredibly polished and the gameplay is near perfect.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (GameCreator)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/607911/925780#target">GameCreator</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p>
A lot of the game looks to have already existed before the competition and it was a team of people working on it but it&#39;s still incredibly polished and the gameplay is near perfect.
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No, most of the game did not exist before the competition... What would even be the point of a Speedhack if that was the case? Music yes, and a basic framework with a game loop, animation, input, music and sound playback, but that&#39;s basically a thin Allegro and Dumb wrapper.</p><p>Having a team helps. Having a team with pro-programmers definitely helps <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Næssén)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Nice game. Very polished for a three day competition, as usual.</p><p>I recognized the gameboy look from the very Darkbits presentation so that explains the color scheme and it makes a great job for the Color Symbolism rule.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (kenmasters1976)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Nice and fun, though it crashed when trying to start a new game when I first tried it.<br />There&#39;s something I dislike about the controls, it feels like I move a bit like I&#39;m slipping around on ice, and I personally dislike the arrow keys <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" /><br />But other than that - pretty awesome!<br />Also, quite pretty, and sounds good. I like the overall aesthetic.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Slartibartfast)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>An impressive entry for a 3 days competition, as one would expect from Darkbits</p><p>The controls seems a bit clunky until you get the hang of it, but I found the game fairly easy to beat. Heard people complain about difficulty, but if anything I found it too easy. The final boss was a panzy, which was sort of a let down.</p><p>I have to say it gets a bit repetitive though.  Some more interesting enemies/bosses/stages (like the tower) would have made it a definite hit.</p><p>[edit] Forgot to add: I thought your approach to the &quot;Color&quot; rule was kinda cheap <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/sad.gif" alt=":(" /></p><p>Overall, a serious candidate on all categories for this year <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (titonbrujah)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 02:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Did I get sources mixed up, or does your official SH upload use Allegro 4 and Allegro 5? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/huh.gif" alt="???" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 04:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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Did I get sources mixed up, or does your official SH upload use Allegro 4 and Allegro 5?</p></div></div><p>

We use only 4.4.2. I have never touched 5.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Næssén)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/607911/925780#target">GameCreator</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p>A lot of the game looks to have already existed before the competition</p></div></div><p>
I think you&#39;re misinterpreting what you&#39;re experiencing. What we&#39;re witnessing is a phenomenon known as &quot;experience.&quot; <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Mark Oates)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/607911/925883#target">Næssén</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p> We use only 4.4.2. I have never touched 5.
</p></div></div><p>Not sure why I got Allegro 5 references in your code. I redownloaded it, and it was fine.</p><p>However, there are plenty of errors like:
</p><div class="source-code"><div class="toolbar"><span class="name">src/math3d/quaternion.h</span><span class="button numbers"><b>#</b></span><span class="button select">Select</span><span class="button expand">Expand</span></div><div class="inner"><span class="number">  1</span>        <span class="k1">template</span><span class="k3">&lt;</span><span class="k1">class</span> ItInOut&gt;
<span class="number">  2</span>        <span class="k1">inline</span> <span class="k1">void</span> transformMany<span class="k2">(</span>quaternion q, ItInOut first, ItInOut last<span class="k2">)</span>
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<span class="number">  4</span>                <span class="k1">for</span><span class="k2">(</span>It i <span class="k3">=</span> first<span class="k2">;</span> i <span class="k3">!</span><span class="k3">=</span> last<span class="k2">;</span> <span class="k3">+</span><span class="k3">+</span>i<span class="k2">)</span>
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<span class="number">  6</span>                        <span class="k3">*</span>i <span class="k3">=</span> transform<span class="k2">(</span>m, <span class="k3">*</span>i<span class="k2">)</span><span class="k2">;</span>
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&quot;error: ‘It’ was not declared in this scope&quot;</p><p>And from where does <span class="source-code">float2</span> originate?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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Hmm, I see. The math3d lib doesn&#39;t play well with GCC. That&#39;s a bummer. Perhaps I can look into it after work today.</p><p>float2 is in the vector.h, which is included through our Precompiled.hpp header.</p><p><b>Edit:</b><br />I have included a Visual Studio solution and project files in the source attached to this thread. Perhaps you can use that?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Næssén)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/607911/925896#target">Næssén</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p> I have included a Visual Studio solution and project files in the source attached to this thread. Perhaps you can use that?
</p></div></div><p>That won&#39;t help Linux.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p> float2 is in the vector.h, which is included through our Precompiled.hpp header.
</p></div></div><p>It doesn&#39;t seem like Precompiled.hpp is included everywhere it needs to be.</p><p>Is there some MSVC magic with that? Edit: I see your first post addresses that.</p><p>Edit 2:</p><p>I got it to compile. The main problem was the missing Precompiled.hpp. I just wrote a script to insert it at the beginning of every cpp file.</p><p>There were many other things because C++ is pain in the butt. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" /></p><p>Some examples:</p><p><span class="source-code">Entity::Collides<span class="k2">(</span> <span class="k1">const</span> CollisionRect<span class="k3">&amp;</span> aRect1, CollisionRect<span class="k3">&amp;</span> aRect2 <span class="k2">)</span></span></p><p>isn&#39;t compatible with:</p><p><span class="source-code">Entity::Collides<span class="k2">(</span> <span class="k1">const</span> CollisionRect aRect1, CollisionRect aRect2 <span class="k2">)</span></span></p><p>so any time you try to use a temp value, it complains.</p><p>Nested templates <span class="source-code">foo<span class="k3">&lt;</span>foo<span class="k3">&lt;</span>bar&gt;&gt;</span> must have a space <span class="source-code">foo<span class="k3">&lt;</span>foo<span class="k3">&lt;</span>bar&gt; <span class="k3">&gt;</span></span>.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Næssén)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Let me know if <a href="http://www.allegro.cc/files/attachment/604555">Green Grappler.exe</a> (MinGW / gcc 4.5.2) works for you. It seemed to be correct here, but I don&#39;t know what the game is supposed to look like, etc...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Næssén)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>After playing through a couple levels, my complaints are:</p><ul><li><p>It seems way too easy to just fly through without any consideration at all. This is probably some combination of level design and the hook being too easy to blindly use.</p><br /></li><li><p>The graphics <i>really</i> bother me. I hated the Gameboy too. I think you could make everybody happy if you drew graphics in color, but just converted them to the Gameboy colors at runtime as an option.</p></li></ul><p>But other than those things, it&#39;s obviously very solid.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>For me, this game is Mega Man hard. Hell, I skipped the first level when I played it.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (MiquelFire)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 01:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Dario ff)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 02:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Næssén)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 02:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Dario ff)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 02:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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</p></div></div><p>Not to mention the final dialog.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p> The last Metroid is in captivity. The galaxy is at peace.
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 04:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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</p></li><li><p>Animation effects!?!
</p></li><li><p>Comprehensive story!!? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/shocked.gif" alt=":o" />
</p></li><li><p>Multiple levels?!
</p></li><li><p>Balanced gameplay with perfectly balanced challenges!?  How you do that?!
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</p></li><li><p>With <i>joystick</i> support!? You gotta be kidding me! <span class="source-code">fun<span class="k3">+</span><span class="k3">+</span><span class="k2">;</span></span> <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/shocked.gif" alt=":o" />
</p></li><li><p>Auto-saves my game when I close it!!?!?! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/shocked.gif" alt=":o" /><img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/shocked.gif" alt=":o" /></p></li></ol><p>...dude...</p><p>The only negative things I can even consider mentioning is the difficulty of using the grapple, but even that was assisted making the game less frustrating and more skill-based.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Mark Oates)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 05:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 05:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>It was easy, but only because of the flags.</p><p>And I wouldn&#39;t say that&#39;s &quot;too easy <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/angry.gif" alt="&gt;:(" />&quot; but instead &quot;glad I&#39;m not getting frustrated having replay those sections.&quot;  It&#39;s more of a larger single-serving type game.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Mark Oates)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 05:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Peter Wang)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 05:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/607911/926049#target">Matthew Leverton</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p> Maybe I should play more levels, but I thought it was insanely easy. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/huh.gif" alt="???" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (kenmasters1976)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>This game is the winner for me. It has gameplay, level design, puzzle, graphics...</p><p>But I seem to have a problem firing the grappler up-left. All the other directions work fine.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Trezker)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/607911/926447#target">Trezker</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p>But I seem to have a problem firing the grappler up-left. All the other directions work fine.</p></div></div><p>
Are you using a 360 controller? That implementation suffers from a couple of dead angels.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Næssén)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/607911/926447#target">Trezker</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p> But I seem to have a problem firing the grappler up-left. All the other directions work fine.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (kenmasters1976)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I&#39;m using a regular keyboard.<br />Up+Left shouldn&#39;t be an issue with any keyboard.</p><p>EIDT:<br />Oh, I was using space to shoot the grappler, apparently that doesn&#39;t work well.<br />CTRL+up+left is working.</p><p><img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/embarassed.gif" alt=":-[" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Trezker)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Awesome <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" /></p><p>I did find it a bit hard and frustrating, so maybe the laziness rule should have kicked in sooner. Alternatively maybe just having more levels or more reward between challenges would help; or maybe simply not being penalised as harshly (i.e. only losing a few coins) when you hit something?</p><p>[EDIT]<br />Also, I think I&#39;d have appreciated being told explicitly that:
</p><ul><li><p>The grappler direction is basically one of the eight compass directions depending on which arrow keys are held;
</p></li><li><p>The grappler auto-aims to some degree so I don&#39;t need to worry too much about it. If I worry too much about it, I&#39;ll struggle with something else e.g. a jump trajectory, or just burn out too quickly.
</p></li></ul><p>I had to figure these things out myself because I realised it was frustrating not knowing them. I don&#39;t think most people would realise what was frustrating them; they&#39;d just assume the game was too hard.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Bruce Perry)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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</p></div></div><p>Just awesome <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/shocked.gif" alt=":o" /> I ran into some trouble I blame the developers, though <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/rolleyes.gif" alt="::)" /> Auto-aim killed me couple of times<span class="ref"><sup>[<a href="#">1</a>]</sup></span>, and jumping was very slightly inconsistent <span class="ref"><sup>[<a href="#">2</a>]</sup></span>.
</p><div class="ref-block"><h2>References</h2><ol><li>I say up+right, auto aim goes for block on the right; I say up, auto-aim thinks up+left is a good place to hook onto the final boss(whcih is impossible <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />)</li><li>Jump, hold up in air =&gt; no jump. Jump, grapple, hold up in air =&gt; jump. This killed me a couple of times during the final boss.</li></ol></div></div>]]>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (weapon_S)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 20:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I just can&#39;t believe these guys managed to get this done in a 72 hour slot! It&#39;s worth while finishing the game for sure <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cheesy.gif" alt=":D" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Desmond Taylor)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 20:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Out of curiosity, is there a specific chip/system that you got the sounds for the music from?
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 21:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/607911/926585#target">Bruce Perry</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p> Also, I think I&#39;d have appreciated being told explicitly that the grappler direction is basically one of the eight compass directions depending on which arrow keys are held
</p></div></div><p>Agreed. I had some trouble due to this on a level. Unfortunately, it was the first level I played and I almost assumed it was impossible to beat. Once I realized that keys affected movement while grappling, the game became much easier and enjoyable.</p><p>I didn&#39;t have problems with the auto aiming, though.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (kenmasters1976)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 23:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I had issues where up+side didn&#39;t work on aiming for some reason (when jumping, either Up or side, not both), or when it did, I was not in a position for the auto-aim to help me grab something.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (MiquelFire)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 01:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I&#39;m happy most of you seem to like our game. About the auto aim feature, we wanted it to not be so noticable, so players would think that they are good at aiming. It probably needs some tuning before it&#39;s perfect.</p><p>Also, level design is something that is very hard to do in such a short time. I remember I thought that the first level would be very easy to complete when I made it but it turns out I was wrong. There really isn&#39;t enough time to play through games made in competitions like Speedhack and TINS to notice level design flaws.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/607911/926603#target">someone972</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p>Out of curiosity, is there a specific chip/system that you got the sounds for the music from?</p></div></div><p>
I used <a href="http://milkytracker.org/">Milkytracker</a> to compose the music. The samples are mostly made with Milkytracker as well using the sample editor to draw samples, generate samples or use a combination of drawing and generating samples. To play the music, we use the excellent Dumb library.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Næssén)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Well I managed to complete the game.<br />Are you gonna continue working on it?</p><p>I&#39;d like to see volume control so I can listen to other stuff while playing.<br />And new interesting levels would be nice.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Trezker)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/607911/926964#target">Trezker</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p>Are you gonna continue working on it?</p></div></div><p>
We usually never do. One exception is Ballz which Per - together with a friend - ported to Flash. However, this time I might make an exception as I think we ended up with a really nice game. Volume control would definitely be a good feature.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Næssén)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>A custom level editor would be a good idea IMHO</p><p>Just saying 8)
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (titonbrujah)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 22:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/607911/927094#target">titonbrujah</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p>A custom level editor would be a good idea IMHO</p></div></div><p>

We used <a href="http://www.mapeditor.org/">Tiled</a>, so editing levels is a piece of cake.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Næssén)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 02:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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