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		<webMaster>matthew@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</webMaster>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>It&#39;s been over a year since I&#39;ve had any math, and two years since I&#39;ve had anything but calculus. And, while trying to help a friend out on a trig problem today, I found out that I&#39;ve forgotten mostly everything.</p><p>This is not good. I need to refresh my skills in Algebra, Trigonometry, and Calculus. I still have the textbooks from these classes, but I feel that just reading from the books may not be enough for me.</p><p>Are there any online resources to help me relearn the basics of these areas of math? I suppose I should throw in geometry, too, although I don&#39;t have a book for that.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Neil Black)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>You should never forget math if you learned it properly. For example, I can still recite pi to 32 digits: 3.1869012341209423999999999999912.</p><p>Why are you worried? What&#39;s the purpose of the studying? You can only fit a certain amount of information into your brain, so forgetting unimportant stuff is just the natural way to keep space available for something better.</p><p>I think most people can remember around 824 things.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I know about 30,000 words. Do you think I should reduce that to maybe 500 to store more stuff other than words <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Neil Walker)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I took university credit math courses in high school, and passed them all as well as all of the other &quot;advanced&quot; math courses. After leaving high school I worked in construction and stuff like that. When I got back into programming, I found I didn&#39;t remember hardly any math at all that I learned in school from about grade 9 or 10 on. I had to relearn trigonometry, calculus (though I never used calculus practically so I forget most of it again, but I have a better idea of what its about then I ever did in high school), and some other basic stuff...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Trent Gamblin)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 17:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>@Neil: x = y * z</p><p>where: y = number of posts that don&#39;t have anything to do with your question<br />       z = number of people trying to remember how many things they remember<br />       x = a pointless result</p><p>I&#39;m awful at maths so that&#39;s all the help I can offer <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cool.gif" alt="8-)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Dizzy Egg)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 19:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I&#39;ve also basically forgotten most of what I learned in high school math. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/sad.gif" alt=":(" /> I used to be quite good at math (it was basically my favorite subject, except for perhaps computers) so I just hope all of this beer that I drink isn&#39;t destroying those brain cells... <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cry.gif" alt=":&#39;(" /> It would be nice to refresh the stuff that I&#39;ve forgotten and the stuff that I was distracted from learning. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" /></p><p>Maybe we should add math sections to the wiki. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (bamccaig)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/605092/882854#target">bamccaig</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p>Maybe we should add math sections to the wiki. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" /></p></div></div><p>Please do!
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I never much enjoyed doing math in school. And yet I can still remember how to do most of it. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/undecided.gif" alt=":-/" /> It&#39;s a curse.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Billybob)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Well, I might take more math classes in the future, so I may actually need to remember this stuff.</p><p>I guess I&#39;ll just try studying out of the textbooks. I was hoping for something a bit easier, since I&#39;m already predisposed to hate math. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/undecided.gif" alt=":-/" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Neil Black)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Instead of studying for the sake of studying, how about actually <i>doing</i> something more enjoyable that happens to use some math? </p><p>For starters, create a simple 2D game that uses trigonometry.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 23:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Math seems different to me than most other courses, economics 101 or World History can be absorbed by just reading it, but to &quot;understand&quot; math you can&#39;t just read, you have to <i>DO SOME PROBLEMS</i>.  It&#39;s like weight lifting.  Billybob must be some sort of mutant, or he hasn&#39;t actually tried doing some of these problems he seems to recall.</p><p>That said, we now have computer animations that make concepts easier to grasp.</p><p><span class="remote-thumbnail"><span class="json">{"name":"350px-Pi-unrolled-720.gif","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/9\/8\/98d2d4447d17f3bfc1638aca5edce37b.gif","w":350,"h":111,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/9\/8\/98d2d4447d17f3bfc1638aca5edce37b"}</span><img src="http://www.allegro.cc//djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net/image/cache/9/8/98d2d4447d17f3bfc1638aca5edce37b-240.jpg" alt="350px-Pi-unrolled-720.gif" width="240" height="76" /></span>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Arthur Kalliokoski)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 23:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Dont listen to them. <a href="http://gospelofreason.com/2007/06/13/god-said-pi-3-stand-by-your-beliefs-dammit/">Pi is exactly 3.</a> I think the only way to learn anything is by applying it. Following the book is okay, but you get to the point where you have to ask &quot;What does it all mean?&quot;.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Bob Keane)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 23:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title"><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/605092/882864#target">Matthew Leverton</a> said:</div><div class="quote"><p>
Instead of studying for the sake of studying, how about actually doing something more enjoyable that happens to use some math? </p><p>For starters, create a simple 2D game that uses trigonometry.
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I second this. I keep up my reasonably high level of math understanding because I always use much of it in my programming. There is a problem of knowing exactly <i>what</i> to use though... so some quick review will still be necessary.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (SiegeLord)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 00:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>3.1869012341209423999999999999912 ? </p><p>Oh wait, my sarcasm detector is failing again!
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Paul whoknows)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 02:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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