• Grand Theft Auto

• Grand Theft Auto 2

• Grand Theft Auto 3

• Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

• Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

• Manhunt

• Max Payne

• Max Payne 2

• Midnight Club 2

• Wild Metal

I just bought the collection yesterday for $53! If you like these types of games and haven't yet bought them I can't see it getting any better than this. I love Steam.

pirated all this for 0$ even though i can afford to pay for it

GTA and GTA2 can already be gotten for free directly from Rockstar.

Wow. Steam is amazing.

You people always have to complain and nitpick.

I, for one, believe this offer to be an excellent bargain.

It is, normally you'd get one game for that price

Nobody pays that much for one old game. Maybe when they were new they got that much, but you can probably find most of them in the bargin bin for $5-$10.

8 games there you have to pay for, maybe less. If you can find them for an average of $8 that's $64, which isn't bad.

GTA, GTA2, and Wild Metal (???) are all free. The rest are between $8 and $20 on Steam. Go ahead and try to find them in stores... I've been wanting to get GTA3 again for months. I've tried to find it and I couldn't. This is really a pretty sweet deal. In store I'd expect to pay $20-30 for each of the 7.

Sounds like a good deal to me.

le_y_mistar, just so you know, I think you are scum.

I wonder if I'll prefer GTA:SA on PC or PlayStation... With that said, I could swear I've seen new things happening and heard new pedestrian comments while playing GTA:SA on my PlayStation 3...

• Maybe it has enough power to load the media that the PlayStation 2 couldn't;

• Maybe it's a bug that doesn't have an affect when running on the PlayStation 3;

• Maybe I'm crazy...

_{It's been a while since I've played so it's also possible that I just forgot...}

I wonder why nobody is releasing GTA: London 1969 for free? They've been giving away GTA and GTA 2 for at least a couple years now...

They don't even include it in this bundle...

It sounds like that was actually a mission pack (expansion pack) for the original GTA.

piracy is a hobby to me8-)

I know it's was an expansion pack I own it along with the original GTA (and GTA2).

I just don't understand why they give away GTA and not it's expansion packs.

Nice buy !

You know how they end...

I played GTA3 on a PC and a PS2, and unless they changed the control scheme for GTA:SA PS3 from the GTA3 PS2 one, (which would essentially mean "replaced the controller with a mouse"), the PC version should be much better.
Then again, I've hated every FPS on any console I've tried*, it's just uncomfortable to aim without a mouse.
*-Which is only PS2 and XBOX. But presumably only the Wii features any significant difference in controller to be considered different for this purpose.

I wondered the same thing myself when I saw the list of games here.
Though I have a vague memory of it being a free download from some site (ie I was bored some years ago and found a free download for it, and played it for a while, but it was long enough ago to forget almost everything about*. I'm pretty sure it was a legal download though [like GTA2 is available for free])
*-Which doesn't say much, I have the memory capabilities of a ceramic bowl.

I'm pretty comfortable shooting with a PlayStation controller. I prefer with a mouse, but I can manage just fine with a PlayStation controller. For the record, GTA:SA was a PS2 game that I'm playing on my PS3. GTA4 is coming out in a few months for PS3 and 360 (and probably eventually for PC).

I expect the shooting to be a lot easier on PC, but the driving and camera controls will probably be worse or at least less precise.

If you don't mind the horrible horrible torture that is "aiming with a playstation controller", then you'd probably like the PS version better, I guess. The driving and camera controls are a bit uncomfortable on a PC (though I got used to those very fast [unlike the horrible horrible torture that is "aiming with a playstation controller" {do you see a pattern? }]), since the camera is a bit unruly if you ever decide to move it while driving (which I rarely do), and the driving controls are a bit too sensitive until you get used to them. (in GTA:SA, of course. I can't predict what GTA4 will be like )

Maybe you should decide that "driving is better with a controller and shooting is better with a mouse, therefore I will use both simultaneously"

Ooh! How about getting one of those force-feedback driving wheels and pedals, that's smart use of your money

Console gamers get used to shooting with a controller. A mouse has it's advantages shooting, but a PlayStation controller has advantages driving (and operating a camera while driving) and is still very adequate when shooting.

Typically I use the camera to look ahead of me by shifting the camera above the car. It's extremely useful when you're going uphill and want to know what's head of you (stationary objects, traffic, etc.). I never put hydraulics on my cars because in GTA:SA the hydraulics take over the camera controls (which is the best control scheme possible, but you lose control of the cameras for the most part).

Really ? Take your pad, give me a mouse, and let's have an unreal tournament time !

GTA isn't a first-person shooter and the combat isn't as fast paced as one. That said, UT is for n00bs. You wanna have an fps competition it's Counter-Strike: Source and for that I will be using a mouse and keyboard.

Steering with the analog stick is way easier. And walking. And cycling. And anything else. But when it comes to aiming. Sheeesh! I hate aiming in the PS2. But a lot of games, no, most of the games that are for PS2 don't need aiming and the dualshock is perfect for movement.

I love the wii controller for that :-)

I've used one. You're not fooling me. We need to find a game that allows online play across platforms. Give me a PlayStation controller and you a Wiimote and we'll see who owns who.

Dude, it's like giving you some stone to throw by hand and giving me a sniper weapon !

:-p

Aiming sucks on the playstation controllers. You can take a PS2 controller and I'll take keyboard/mouse and pwn your ass.

Perhaps you haven't been reading, Mr. Obvious... I said that keyboard/mouse is better for fps' and easier for shooters in general. PlayStation controllers work better for driving games (like Driver or GTA) where you need to drive and shoot (and the combat isn't very intense). Anyway, aiming with a PlayStation controller isn't very difficult for a gamer. I have no problem playing SOCOM: US Navy Seals or Rainbow Six: Vegas with a controller. It's just [obviously] not as easy as point-and-shoot (mouse).

Of course somebody with a mouse is going to aim faster than with a controller. I don't think anybody's debating that. The debate is about which of the Wiimote and PlayStation controller is better for a shooter.

Yeah, the real debate is how can I pwn bamccaig during a ps2 vs wii controller fight ;-)

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Mwahahaha ;-)

Is a Wii controller really comfortable for aiming?
I'm not sure how you use one for aiming (I don't even know anyone that owns a Wii), so my best assumption would be using it in a similar way to "laser guns" in arcades.
If that is really true, then I would guess it is worse than using a mouse, since a mouse gives you the benefit of a steadier hand.
Then again, that benefit stands even if you don't use the Wii controller in that manner, any amount of pointing or waving around is bound to be less steady than a mouse.

Of course, I'm arguing without any solid facts, so feel free to correct me.

Mouse is still the best for speed an accuracy in FPSs. But the Wii is more fun to use. If you're in it to win it, stick with the mouse. But if you're just here to have fun, go with the Wii. That's my opinion.

Incidentally, I recently found out that Valve has suddenly turned on a region locking feature for The Orange Box on Steam. That's a real pain in the arse for a lot of people. A friend of mine recently bought The Orange Box from a local game store, he couldn't play it because it said it was a Russian version or something. He asked the game store about it -- reply attached.

I bought my copy of The Orange Box from the same store. I tried it last night and it was still letting me play, so I guess I'm safe.

I hate you.

Why? Because he openly admits it or because he actually does it?

Because he does it.

Well, I am sure lots of people here pirate games and/or music. Yves just has the nerve to admit it and even brag with it.

I hate them too. Stupid pirating jerks.

I pirate Linux