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		<webMaster>matthew@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</webMaster>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>A programming site is probably not the best place to ask, but what the hell.</p><p>Anyway HPV is getting all the attention lately, and apparently condoms dont fully protect you from it fully. I&#39;m wondering ...suppose, getting a blow job with a condom on ( <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cry.gif" alt=":&#39;(" /> ) from a girl you dont know very well, can one still get HPV from that?</p><p>This can be a good educational/question thread for everyone about sexually transmittable diseases/viruses.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (le_y_mistar)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 09:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 09:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (le_y_mistar)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 09:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Rampage)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 09:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Yes. Condoms don&#39;t provide very good protection against HPV. Google viral shedding. It is more easily transfered from female to male (with the use of a condom) than male to female.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Elverion)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 09:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>HPV is the beginning of the std::list?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Onewing)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 09:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Good thing I don&#39;t screw around.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (SonShadowCat)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 10:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Was she fat? Everyone is fat nowadays. So much competition for the fit girls.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Goalie Ca)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 10:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Why did I think HPV was women-only? (like, affects women only)</p><p>Also, isn&#39;t there a vaccine or drug or something?</p><p>AM I ENTIRELY CRAZY??</p><p>Edit:<br />From earlier today, in an IM...
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People who have had more than five oral-sex partners in their lifetime are 250% more likely to have throat cancer than those who do not have oral sex, a new study suggests. <br />  <br /> The researchers believe this is because oral sex may transmit human papillomavirus (HPV), the virus implicated in the majority of cervical cancers.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kibiz0r)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 11:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>HPV is nothing compared to AIDS.</p><p>HPV regress and disappear by itself in most cases, only in 15 to 25 % drive to smething as cancer of uterus. Ask wikipedia, HPV are as old as human, and no animal is prevented from them. There are more than 120 different species for the human.<br />Only a few are really driving to cancer.</p><p>A vaccin is existing but only treat 70 of the 120 knwow HPV species.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_papillomavirus">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_papillomavirus</a>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (GullRaDriel)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 11:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>HPV is only really dangerous to women. It can cause cervical cancer.<br />Since it&#39;s a virus  a condom won&#39;t do any good.</p><p>But since recently there is a vaccine.<br />I think everyone should get it,  to kill this thing off.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Ariesnl)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 11:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Wikipedia said:</div><div class="quote"><p>

Vaccine</p><p>    Main article: HPV vaccine</p><p>On June 8, 2006, the FDA approved Gardasil, a prophylactic HPV vaccine which is marketed by Merck. The vaccine trial,[32] conducted in adult women with a mean age of 23, showed protection against initial infection with HPV types 16 and 18, which together cause 70 percent of cervical cancers. HPV types 16 and 18 also cause anal cancer in men and women. The trial also showed 100% efficacy against persistent infections, not just incident infections. The vaccine also protects against HPV types 6 and 11, which cause 90 percent of genital warts. Women aged nine through twenty-six can be vaccinated, though the trial did not test minors. GlaxoSmithKline is expected to seek approval for a prophylactic vaccine targeting HPV types 16 and 18 early in 2007, known as Cervarix. Since the current vaccine will not protect women against all the HPV types that cause cervical cancer, it will be important for women to continue to seek Pap smear testing, even after receiving the vaccine. In addition, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends vaccinating women who have already been diagnosed with HPV (October 2006).[33]
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (GullRaDriel)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 11:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Well at least I&#39;m not crazy.</p><p>...well, crazy in terms of knowledge of HPV...I&#39;m still crazy in other ways...</p><p><tt>**Kibiz0r runs off into the distance, throwing hammers in the air in front of himself and trying to get underneath them before they hit the ground.**</tt>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kibiz0r)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 11:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Why are we concerned about this? Are we not programmers?
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 17:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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Since it&#39;s a virus a condom won&#39;t do any good.
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That is utter nonsense. A condom works by keeping body fluids apart, and it does a very good job at that - no matter whether it&#39;s about viruses or bacteria or whatever. <br />So, whatever you do, use a condom anyway (unless you&#39;re both properly tested, and you&#39;re 200% she&#39;s not been seeing anyone else for enough time, and neither have you). And even then, a condom does not offer 100% protection from getting pregnant (though for a blow job, that chance is pretty low...)</p><p>This doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re 100% safe with a condom - truth is, you never are. And there are <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_louse">other nasty things</a> you can get, condom or not.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Tobias Dammers)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 17:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>If you are still afraid, masturbate. But, even doing so, be warned: too much mono will bring you cystitis(urinary disease) ( heh,that is the first English valid word I write that the spellchecker does not know ;-) ), and frustration.</p><p>Use a condom, only forget it when you are sure of the partner. I second Tobias for that.</p><p>But, heh, do not be that afraid. AIDS is the worse you can catch. Crabs are good and loyal pets huhuhu <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/lipsrsealed.gif" alt=":-X" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (GullRaDriel)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 18:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Apparently it never struck some people that condoms do in fact protect you from the Human Immunodeficiency Virus... <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 18:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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Try it out, and get back with us.
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Try it out but don&#39;t get back with us.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Halmén)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 18:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Yeah keep your crabs for you ! <br />They all have enough to do with theirs ;-p
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (GullRaDriel)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 18:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I wonder if she likes the taste of latex (or latex-free condom flavor). <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/undecided.gif" alt=":-/" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (BAF)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 00:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>That&#39;s what flavored condoms are for.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Rampage)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 00:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Take swabs and send them to the lab <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matt Smith)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 00:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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A condom works by keeping body fluids apart, and it does a very good job at that - no matter whether it&#39;s about viruses or bacteria or whatever.
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a condom does not offer 100% protection from getting pregnant
</p></div></div><p>So it doesn&#39;t allow tiny little viruses through but can let relatively huge sperms? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" /></p><p>I know, a condom can break and other accidents can happen. Getting pregnant is considerably more difficult than being in touch with SDD&#39;s.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (HoHo)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 03:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>What is HPV?</p><p>From wikipedia it sounds like some kind of sexually trasmitted cancer?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Michael Jensen)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 04:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>It is a virus that causes a disease that causes cancer for women. Worst scenario, that is.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Halmén)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 04:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Michael Jensen)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 04:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kibiz0r)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 04:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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So it doesn&#39;t allow tiny little viruses through but can let relatively huge sperms?
</p></div></div><p>I imagine that defective condoms may have more to do with that fact...</p><p>EDIT:
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Condoms don&#39;t provide very good protection against HPV. Google viral shedding.
</p></div></div><p>According to <a href="http://www.metrokc.gov/health/apu/std/hpv.htm">this site</a>, the cause of why male condoms are not very effective is that it does not prevent all skin-to-skin protection during sex, and that female condoms are more effective to provide protection as they have a wider area. Also, googling viral shedding produces results related to HSV, which is another kind of virus, although the same applies for condoms.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Crazy Photon)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 06:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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Quote:<br />Since it&#39;s a virus a condom won&#39;t do any good.<br />That is utter nonsense. A condom works by keeping body fluids apart, and it does a very good job at that - no matter whether it&#39;s about viruses or bacteria or whatever.<br />So, whatever you do, use a condom anyway (unless you&#39;re both properly tested, and you&#39;re 200% she&#39;s not been seeing anyone else for enough time, and neither have you). And even then, a condom does not offer 100% protection from getting pregnant (though for a blow job, that chance is pretty low...)</p><p>This doesn&#39;t mean you&#39;re 100% safe with a condom - truth is, you never are. And there are other nasty things [en.wikipedia.org] you can get, condom or not.
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I wasn&#39;t telling anyone NOT to use a condom , I&#39;m NOT the pope <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" /><br />I was telling a Condom cannot stop a HPV-virus from getting somewhere. It&#39;s much smaller than HIV.  <br />Thus stating that an HPV-vaccine should be given to everyone before they have sex.</p><p>But I like your argument for more blowjobs <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" /><img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Ariesnl)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 12:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (wearetheborg)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 10:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 10:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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I doubt the guys here will ever have to worry about std&#39;s, or anything that is somehow linked to sex for that matter.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Steve++)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 10:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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I doubt the <i>guys</i> here will ever have to worry about std&#39;s, or anything that is somehow linked to sex for that matter.
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So are you saying the girls here do?</p><p>Also,
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suppose, getting a blow job with a condom on ( <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cry.gif" alt=":&#39;(" /> ) from a girl you dont know very well, can one still get HPV from that?
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Who gives blow jobs with condoms on anyway?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (ImLeftFooted)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 13:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Steve++)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 20:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Ariesnl)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 21:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (MiquelFire)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 07:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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One the girls here has a baby anyway.
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Babies are a sexually transmitted disease.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (LennyLen)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 07:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Rampage)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 07:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kibiz0r)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 09:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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Who gives blow jobs with condoms on anyway?
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I&#39;ve heard the &quot;pros&quot; &lt;ahem&gt; can hide a condom in their mouth, and roll it on when they&#39;re giving you the bj, so the &quot;customer&quot; doesn&#39;t even realize it&#39;s on until he&#39;s done.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Arthur Kalliokoski)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 01:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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I heard, that if you have sex, you can lose your virginity.
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Usually only once though.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (LennyLen)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 04:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Halmén)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 11:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Crazy Photon)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 19:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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I&#39;ve heard the &quot;pros&quot; &lt;ahem&gt; can hide a condom in their mouth, and roll it on when they&#39;re giving you the bj,
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Plausible.
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so the &quot;customer&quot; doesn&#39;t even realize it&#39;s on until he&#39;s done.
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Unlikely.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Steve++)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 23:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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I&#39;ve heard the &quot;pros&quot; &lt;ahem&gt; can hide a condom in their mouth, and roll it on when they&#39;re giving you the bj
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I saw a video of that!
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc ( mEmO)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 02:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (le_y_mistar)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 11:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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for science
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