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		<title>Amsterdam, here I come!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Now wasn&#39;t that like lyrics from a song? No? Ok, maybe I just forget the song.<br />Anyway, I&#39;m going to Amsterdam after three weeks. Just for two nights, with my wife. Thought of checking out some van Gogh and Rembrandt. And hopefully some other renaissance masters. Any other suggestions?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Halmén)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I think when the typical person from the US hera&#39;s &#39;amsterdam&#39; they think of two things; smoking marijuana legally and prostitution.  &#39;Rembrandt?  Thats a tooth paste!?!&#39;
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (nonnus29)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Can&#39;t you also get mushrooms?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (khristina yer)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 03:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Have a nice time in the coffee shops. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" />
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 04:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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Any other suggestions?
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We can have an Allegro convention. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" /></p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
Thought of checking out some van Gogh and Rembrandt. And hopefully some other renaissance masters.
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They&#39;re giving the Rijksmuseum (where all the Rembrandts are) a big makeover; only one or two wings of the museum are open where some of the top pieces of the collection are on display and some seldom-seen `treasures&#39; from the depot. They still charge you the full tariff (9 euros, if I remember correctly; I get in for half) though, so beware. The van Gogh is pretty expensive too (10 euros; again, I get in for half that).</p><p>What are you interested in seeing? Everyone wants to see the house where Anne Frank lived and take a cruise on the canals, so if you want to do the touristy thing, you can do that too. Personally, I&#39;d recommend walking around for a bit; if it&#39;s not raining that can be very pleasant. I don&#39;t know if the Dam Palace and the New Church are open for public this time of year (the New Church probably is, it&#39;s used for exhibitions most of the time and service only when there&#39;s some special occasion). The Botanic Gardens are nice, I think, but I haven&#39;t been inside for years.<br />The Concert Building is a good place to visit too (to listen to a concert, obviously) if you like classical music and have the time to visit.<br />Oh: there&#39;s a new museum, or actually, the annex of a well-known museum: the Hermitage. It&#39;s on the right bank of the river. They&#39;re still setting it up and I don&#39;t think they have a permanent collection yet, but it may still be worth a visit.<br />There was something else I was going to recommend, but I don&#39;t remember what it was. I&#39;ll let you know if I think of it. Anyway, have fun and watch out for cyclers (<i>don&#39;t</i> walk on cycle lanes; all tourists do it and cyclers have lost their patience with tourists and will generally steer to kill).</p><p>OT:
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smoking marijuana legally and prostitution.
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I never understood the obsession with either. I mean, there are more prostitutes on the border between Germany and Poland than there are in Amsterdam and marijuana is filthy anyway, but it doesn&#39;t cause any problems generally - except for the stupid tourists who go to Amsterdam once in their lives and feel that they need to get stuffed on it.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
Can&#39;t you also get mushrooms?
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Of course you can.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Evert)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 04:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Thanks, Evert. Good to know about the Rijksmuseum. We might go there nevertheless. I also thought of checking out a concert, but I&#39;m not sure. As a teacher I always ask for discount at museums. Usually it pays off.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Halmén)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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We went to the Madam Tusseuds museum (yep, can&#39;t spell it) which had some interesting stuff on the painting traditions of the Netherlands. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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Now wasn&#39;t that like lyrics from a song? No?
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Ei lopu täältä polle, ei amfetamiini<br />Täältä kukkaloistosta Amsterdamin
</p></div></div><p>Not far. And speed was mentioned, too. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (jhuuskon)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>One museum worth checking out is the <a href="http://www.stedelijk.nl/">Stedelijk Museum</a>. It&#39;s been ages since I went there, but I really enjoyed some of the more unusual modern-art exhibits. The museum is currently undergoing renovation and the exhibits are housed in a temporary location. Check the website for details.</p><p>Also worth seeing is the Leidseplein - a square on the edge of the central city. There&#39;s often street entertainers in the square during the day, and it&#39;s a great place to sit outside and have a drink. Nearby is the Vondelpark - a park that&#39;s nice to walk around, although in three weeks time I suspect the weather will involve a lot of rain.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Evert said:</div><div class="quote"><p>

Quote:<br />&gt;Any other suggestions?<br />We can have an Allegro convention. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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Good idea.</p><p>AE.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Andrei Ellman)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>In case you want to Amsterdam at its best, take a walk around the city centre in the early morning, when most tourists are still asleep and the souvenir shops have yet to open. IMO Tussaud&#39;s isn&#39;t really worth the visit; the original Tussauds&#39;s (in London) is much better, and also features celebrities you might actually know.<br />The Van Gogh Museum is really good, provided you avoid the peak hours.<br />As far as music goes, apart from Concertgebouw, there are lots of clubs, among which (IMHO) &quot;Paradiso&quot; and &quot;Melkweg&quot; are the best. And there&#39;s the &quot;Bimhuis&quot;, of course, once the famous breeding-place for experimental jazz music, now a renowned jazz club.<br />Oh yeah, like in all tourist cities, look out for pick-pockets. In Amsterdam, this has become so much of a problem that Australian authorities advise their citizens not to visit the Netherlands because of this. But if you&#39;re not too stupid and try not to look too much like a tourist, you should be fine.<br />And look out for pigeons, another famous plague. They are said to steal food from your hands...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Tobias Dammers)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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And look out for pigeons, another famous plague.
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<a href="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/view_thread.php?_id=510101#target">I&#39;m used to them</a></p><p>And thanks Andrei and Tobias for the tips. &quot;Melkweg&quot;, that must be <a href="http://www.ag.fimug.fi/~johan.halmen/blubblob/">the Milky Way! Yay!</a>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Halmén)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 00:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Hmmmm... Allegro convention at the leidse plein, three weeks from now? </p><p>(I&#39;m still supposed to organize an allegro convention some day..., that&#39;s what I promised evert)
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (amarillion)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 00:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Try the Wickse Witte (or whatever) beer - it&#39;s really good <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Torbjörn Josefsson)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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