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		<title>how do you pronounce &#39;Java&#39;?</title>
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		<webMaster>matthew@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</webMaster>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 07:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>jah vah
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (BAF)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 07:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Java, like &#39;Jabba the Hutt&#39;.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Rampage)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 07:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>[url <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Java">http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Java</a>]<br />Check the pronounciation.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Billybob)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 07:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>You should pronounce it &quot;Jehovah&quot; for best effect.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Paul Pridham)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 07:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>We spell it here the way it is written, that would be <i>havva</i>, just like <i>have</i> in english.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (ReyBrujo)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Its pronounced &quot;C plus plus&quot;
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (kazzmir)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Heh.</p><p>No its pronounced &#39;pointer scare me so I made this language without them&#39;.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (nonnus29)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Java is pronounced the same as the word java meaning coffee, with a harsh &quot;jah&quot; sound and not a soft &quot;yah&quot; sound as you asked.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (gillius)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Whilst on topic, <b>why</b> is it called Java??
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kris Allen)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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Why is it called Java?<br />Originally called Oak by Gosling because of the tree outside his office window.<br />Oak had been used before so Java was selected.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Jeremy McCleese)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Maybe because java is a sort of coffee beans. And you know the thing about coders and caffeine. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (jhuuskon)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>One of our lecturers always pronounces it yahvah, and everytime he says that (which is quite frequent) I run mad. Gnarr.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Indeterminatus)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>You are all stuck on your own prejudices, and the bad habit of Anglicising. I had 2 Latin teachers who couldn&#39;t agree how to pronounce &#39;ego&#39;</p><p>How do you say Jugoslavia? How do you say Javier? (or Xavier, X-Man fans)</p><p>Java is an island in Indonesia (Dutch East Indies) where the coffee comes from. It was probably Cloggies who spelled the name Java and so by my reckoning &#39;yah vah&#39; is probably correct, and &#39;djah vah&#39; is how Anglos mis-say it.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matt Smith)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I&#39;m the last one to anglicise. My mother tongue is German and I had 6 years Latin in school. There are lots of words being mis-pronounced by Anglos (I&#39;m especially thinking about the Greek alphabet), nonetheless I believe Java has to be pronounced &#39;djah vah&#39;.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Indeterminatus)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>In czech we pronounce it as in English [djahva] (I don&#39;t know somebody who pronounces it in czech like [yava]).
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (OICW)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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No its pronounced &#39;pointer scare me so I made this language without them&#39;.
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[url <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22Java+DOES+have+pointers%22&amp;btnG=Google+Search">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22Java+DOES+have+pointers%22&amp;btnG=Google+Search</a>]
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Rash)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 20:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">ReyBrujo said:</div><div class="quote"><p>We spell it here the way it is written</p></div></div><p>heh.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Karadoc ~~)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 20:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Well, Java the programming language was developed by an American lady <img src="http://www.allegro.cc//djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net/image/cache/7/8/78f1aca08f95610161b3bc725194212e.gif" alt="photo_kimpolese.gif" width="120" height="150" /> and she probably calls it djahvah so that&#39;ll do.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matt Smith)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 21:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (nonnus29)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 04:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Maybe that&#39;s what you are made to THINK, nonnus29! Might be a secret identity. I don&#39;t know this James Gosling lady...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Indeterminatus)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 05:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>PRON<u>U</u>NCIATION!!! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/angry.gif" alt="&gt;:(" /> <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" /></p><p>We all call it Java at work, and since we&#39;re the best Java coders out there, our whims are law.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Bruce Perry)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 06:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (nonnus29)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 07:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (jhuuskon)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 13:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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Whilst on topic, why is it called Java??
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I belive it was going to be called Oak after a tree outside one of the developers windows but that name was allready being used in the software world for somthing else so they named it after a brand of coffee called &quot;Java&quot;.
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 14:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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[quote2]<br />No its pronounced &#39;pointer scare me so I made this language without them&#39;.<br />[/quote2]<br /><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22Java+DOES+have+pointers%22&amp;btnG=Google+Search">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22Java+DOES+have+pointers%22&amp;btnG=Google+Search</a>
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Yup, it does have pointer which are called reference objects or something like that. It&#39;s just that they are well hidden.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
I belive it was going to be called Oak after a tree outside one of the developers windows but that name was allready being used in the software world for somthing else so they named it after a brand of coffee called &quot;Java&quot;.
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Why is it called Java?<br />Originally called Oak by Gosling because of the tree outside his office window.<br />Oak had been used before so Java was selected.
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We spell it here the way it is written
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Ron Ofir)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Bruce Perry)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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Coffee! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" /></p><p>BTW: What game? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/huh.gif" alt="???" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>The correct pronunciation is, of course, the natural way I would pronounce Java <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" /><br />Though I suspect it would render in English as Yava.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>I had 2 Latin teachers who couldn&#39;t agree how to pronounce &#39;ego&#39;</p></div></div><p>
I&#39;d pronounce it (trying to transcribe to English) a-go, with a soft `g&#39; as in English. Ego is also used as a Dutch word and there I&#39;d pronounce it with a hard g (as in Scottish loch): a-cho.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>How do you say Jugoslavia?</p></div></div><p>
Yugoslavia, with the u as an oo in good and a hard g.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>How do you say Javier? (or Xavier, X-Man fans)</p></div></div><p>
Something like Yavi-e, though I&#39;m not sure how to transcribe it in English. I&#39;d pronounce it as French.
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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Ben: <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" /></p><p>So this is a non-work game? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" /></p><p>It&#39;s still Coffee. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Bruce Perry)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>Though I suspect it would render in English as Yava.</p></div></div><p>
I&#39;ve always heard java as jah-vah (emphasis on first syllable). If it was from another language and supposed to be pronounced Yah-vah, it should&#39;ve been written as Yava in English. It&#39;s almost as bad as seeing Jesus and being told to pronounce it hey-zues.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>I&#39;d pronounce it (trying to transcribe to English) a-go, with a soft `g&#39; as in English.</p></div></div><p>
It&#39;s pronounced ee-goh (long e, and like the verb go). <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /></p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>How do you say Javier? (or Xavier, X-Man fans)<br />Something like Yavi-e, though I&#39;m not sure how to transcribe it in English. I&#39;d pronounce it as French.</p></div></div><p>
People here pronounce it Ek-zay-vee-er. Although then you have Xena which is pronounce Zee-nuh..
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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Xavier should probably be pronounced like Xena, xylophone, xenophobe, xerox, et cetera &mdash; Zavier. Ego is ee-goh in English, straighforward in Swedish (yet I can&#39;t accurately transcribe it... it&#39;s neither ee-goh nor eh-goh). Java is jah-vah, like Jaweh or Jesus or Jack. If it&#39;s spelt with a J in English, it should be pronounced like J&#39;s normally are in English, eh?</p><p>EDIT: Actually, I can&#39;t think of a single word in English beginning with X where it&#39;s pronounced &quot;ecks&quot;, except for words like &quot;X-ray&quot;, where the X is distinct and not part of the word as such.
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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The original spelling would be Iesus (or Iesos, possibly). Anyway, the first sound should definitable by a j-sound.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>long e</p></div></div><p>
That&#39;s what I meant, but for some weird reason you English types write a long e sound as an a <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" /><br />I meant the e sound as in é: é-go. Perhaps the Greek &#949;&#947;&#959; is less ambiguous.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>People here pronounce it Ek-zay-vee-er.</p></div></div><p>
Well, a friend of mine pronounces it ksavir... <br />By the way, I&#39;d pronounce Xavier different from Javier, personally. Javier as Yavi-e, Xavier more as kSavi-e, with a clear S sound and a weak k (or g) sound.
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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I always used to pronounce Xavier as X-Zavi-Er.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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Professor X is an exception, but otherwise I go with the Spanish pronunciation (&quot;khavier&quot;)...
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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How do you say Jugoslavia?
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Yoogoswavya <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 22:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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You Go Slaw Vee ah.
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2004 01:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Bruce Perry)</author>
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If you meant the continent it belongs to, that&#39;s properly called Oceania. The land is the former Dutch East Indies, Indonesia for over fifty years now.<br />Java is one of the large islands of Indonesia (I think second largest, after Borneo).
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Evert)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2004 02:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (jhuuskon)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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Jawa are also the little hooded guys in <i>Star Wars</i>.</p><p><i>The spice extends life. The spice expands consciousness. The spice is vital to space travel. The spice exists only on one planet...</i>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (X-G)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2004 03:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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so ask a Geographics teacher...
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Our world studies teacher (geography) is the worst at pronouncing everything. He mispronounces almost every name. He is a great teacher though.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (RallyMonkey)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2004 03:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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Credits go to BAF, Bruce Perry, Evert, gillius, gnolam, Indeterminatus, Jeremy McCleese, jhuuskon, jorram, Karadoc ~~, kazzmir, Kitty Cat, Kris Allen, MattSmith, nonnus29, OICW, Paul Pridham, PyroBoy, Rash, ReyBrujo, Richard Phipps, Ron Ophir, William Heatley, and X-G for helping out!
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We have hit a new record... and yet surprisingly, I&#39;m not on the list. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/angry.gif" alt="&gt;:(" /></p><p>I pronouce it jah-vah. There, I contributed. Can I get a cookie? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Chris Katko)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2004 09:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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