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		<title>Free 16x16 RPG tiles and sprites</title>
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		<webMaster>matthew@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</webMaster>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p><a href="http://zaynar.demon.co.uk/ludus/cata/graphics.zip">Downloaderate here!</a></p><p>These are some old 16x16 tiles and sprites I did a while back for an RPG I was planning. The RPG was never finished (not even close really, but nevermind <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" /> ), so I&#39;ve decided to dig them up and give them as a gift to the community. Use them for whatever you want to, basically. Although I&#39;d appreciate it if you credited me for them. If you do use them, please let me know, i&#39;d be interested to see what for. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />.</p><p>There&#39;s ~50 or so of them, in various different formats (mostly pcx, some tga and one or two bmps). Most of the backdrop tiles are similar with different colours or features. There&#39;s a girl with walking animations and some static characters as well. The shots below have a lot of the tiles in them <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /></p><p>Some mockups using them:</p><p><span class="remote-thumbnail"><span class="json">{"name":"mockup.png","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/2\/a\/2a5d28a70d14713a8cf0b00b28b877f5.png","w":320,"h":200,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/2\/a\/2a5d28a70d14713a8cf0b00b28b877f5"}</span><img src="http://www.allegro.cc//djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net/image/cache/2/a/2a5d28a70d14713a8cf0b00b28b877f5-240.jpg" alt="mockup.png" width="240" height="150" /></span></p><p>These are the snow ones (just blown up a bit, they&#39;re still 16x16):</p><p><span class="remote-thumbnail"><span class="json">{"name":"snow_mockup.png","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/1\/d\/1d11a46a0d29da46a345ce64c6d37c14.png","w":643,"h":482,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/1\/d\/1d11a46a0d29da46a345ce64c6d37c14"}</span><img src="http://www.allegro.cc//djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net/image/cache/1/d/1d11a46a0d29da46a345ce64c6d37c14-240.jpg" alt="snow_mockup.png" width="240" height="179" /></span></p><p>Feel free to use them. I might even be persuaded to do some more or alter them a bit if you ask me nicely <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cool.gif" alt="8-)" />.</p><p>Have a nice day now ^.^
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (AngelChild)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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A generous gift. Thank you!
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>i dont really like:-/
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (the_y_man)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p> I dont really like:-/</p></div></div><p>

Well dont use them then <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/lipsrsealed.gif" alt=":-X" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Reno Midgar)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>if i dont like, why would i use them?...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (the_y_man)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>If you dont like you wouldnt use them, but at the same time if you dont like why bother dampening someones spirits by stating that the fact that you dont like, which in turn prompted me to post if you dont like dont use them, which prompted you to post if I dont like why would I use them, which prompted me to post that if you dont like you wont use? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/rolleyes.gif" alt="::)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Reno Midgar)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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Yves is just spamming. He can&#39;t even program anyway. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>If you dont like you wouldnt use them, but at the same time if you dont like why bother dampening someones spirits by stating that the fact that you dont like, which in turn prompted me to post if you dont like dont use them, which prompted you to post if I dont like why would I use them, which prompted me to post that if you dont like you wont use?</p></div></div><p>

As an musician (which is a form of art), I always appreciate it when people say they dont like my work.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>Yves is just spamming. He can&#39;t even program anyway.</p></div></div><p>

...right....that wasnt even spam, I was merely stating my point of view. Yeah, I can&#39;t program....guess what I&#39;m majoring in at university.....Comp Sci.:o
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (the_y_man)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">y_man said:</div><div class="quote"><p>As an musician ...<br />Yeah, I can&#39;t program....guess what I&#39;m majoring in at university.</p></div></div><p>

music? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/rolleyes.gif" alt="::)" /></p><p>[edit] damn edit
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Mark Oates)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Constructive critism and saying &quot;I dont like that&quot; is the same as saying to your girlfriend &quot;I&#39;m not sure the colour suits you&quot; or &quot;You look pig rough in that you fat <span class="cuss"><span>bitch</span></span>, go and change for f*cks sake&quot; <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Reno Midgar)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
Yeah, I can&#39;t program....guess what I&#39;m majoring in at university.....Comp Sci.:o</p></div></div><p>

Really?? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/shocked.gif" alt=":o" /> But you never talk about programming..
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Can we please ban Yves again?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (spellcaster)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>Constructive critism and saying &quot;I dont like that&quot; is the same as saying to your girlfriend &quot;I&#39;m not sure the colour suits you&quot; or &quot;You look pig rough in that you fat ßî+çh, go and change for f*cks sake&quot;</p></div></div><p>

Saying &quot;I dont like&quot; is not all that bad, it&#39;s an honest opinion. Sometimes, I, just, dont, like. No need to butter things up, especially when it comes to art. <br />If you cant take something as small as &quot;I dont like&quot;, I recommend you go hide yourself in a cave, where you will be safe from all forms of criticism (that was not even directed at you in the first place), so yeah, grow some tough skin.:-*</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>Can we please ban Yves again?</p></div></div><p>

Exactly what did i do that was so bad in this thread? people are just uselessly diverting their attention towards my opinion, and since they dont like it, labeling it as &quot;spam&quot;::)
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (the_y_man)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Yves, I dont like you...at all. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/kiss.gif" alt=":-*" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Reno Midgar)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>Yves, I dont like you...at all. </p></div></div><p>

Aww man,. there goes my hopes of getting you in bed with me.:&#39;(
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (the_y_man)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Its not this thread. its all the spamming you were doing.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p> Aww man, there goes my chance of getting you in bed with me <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cry.gif" alt=":&#39;(" /></p></div></div><p>
Oh I dont know, I&#39;d do pretty much anything for £479,000,000,000 sterling
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Reno Midgar)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>TF, but right now, it&#39;s about THIS thread.</p><p>Reno Midgar, i have 25 cents on me.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (the_y_man)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>25 cents but no sense
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Reno Midgar)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>nope. banning you is about you, not this thread.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (spellcaster)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>If you didnt notice, i have actually started behaving myself a bit more (since day before yesterday).<br /><img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/shocked.gif" alt=":o" />x1000</p><p>But then again spell-boy, you&#39;ve always been an arse to me, so YOU get a BIG WET KISSY:-*
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (the_y_man)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I think your quote of Thomas Fjellstrom in your sig just about says it all <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Reno Midgar)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>I think your quote of Thomas Fjellstrom in your sig just about says it all</p></div></div><p>

It sure does8-)
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (the_y_man)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>AFAIK this is the first time I commented on your great posting style.<br />But if you feel better by believing that I had always bad feeling towards you, well, go on.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (spellcaster)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>You! Out of my thread! (I appreciate that you don&#39;t like them, but i&#39;d rather you didn&#39;t have an argument here, please <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /> ).
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (AngelChild)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>But if you feel better by believing that I had always bad feeling towards you, well, go on.</p></div></div><p>

I dont take the internet seriously. I cannot understand how people can actually hate one another over the net. So, no.</p><p><b>[EDIT]Angelchild, i will respect your request and leave this thread, people, if you wish to do more bashin (which i really enjoy) you can always bug me over msn at the_y_man84 (at) hotmail .com[/EDIT]</b>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (the_y_man)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>I dont take the internet seriously.</p></div></div><p>
Well other people do. But it seems you don&#39;t respect their opinions. Hence they will not be happy with you. Then you will be banned. It that what you want? Why don&#39;t you try to make friends?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Back on topic:<br />I like the tiles, they have a nice 8bit feel.<br />I think the grass in the 2nd image is a bit to noisy. It&#39;s hard to concentrate on anything because my eye doesn&#39;t find a focus.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (spellcaster)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Richie Rich, read the edit
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (the_y_man)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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Fair enough.</p><p>Ontopic: I like the first mockup, but maybe the trees are a little too red.<br />However people can always change them to suit.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Yeah, I don&#39;t like the snow one much.  The water in the first looks quite cool though <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>Can we please ban Yves again?</p></div></div><p>
I second the notion.</p><p>Yves, it&#39;s all very well expressing your opinions, but it&#39;s the pointless posts that are annoying. Like:</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
if i dont like, why would i use them?...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (james_lohr)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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Maybe we could use a few of these tiles in KQ. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /></p><p>EDIT: Sonuva <i>b*tch</i>, people.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (23yrold3yrold)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I always read of people wanting free tiles (on this and other forums) so I&#39;m sure they&#39;ll come in handy for someone...my RPG uses pre-rendered 3D backdrops so I wont be wanting them.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Reno Midgar)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 02:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Feel free to spread them around or whatever <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (AngelChild)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 03:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (DanTheKat)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Carrus85)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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I&#39;d prefer if they were all on one sheet though. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/sad.gif" alt=":(" /> The tiles, anyway ...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (23yrold3yrold)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Not bad for programmer art. Thats what they are right...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (phate)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>You call <u>that</u> programers art? No. Programers art is stickmen drawn in Paint, or using allegro&#39;s primitive drawing functions (ala: hline, rect) to do graphics <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I resent that statement! Here, I made this to prove u wrong (only took 20 minutes, and I&#39;m a programmer)
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Reno Midgar)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Pah. You call that programmer art. This is <b>real</b> programmer art.</p><p>Angel Child: I second 23rg&#39;s suggestion for sheets.</p><p>Nice old school style, but what&#39;s with the green skin?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Surt)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Haha! No mate, thats s*it art! You cant judge a programmers skill by how crap his/her art is, but you can call me the man because not only am I a coder but also a damn fine artist! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Reno Midgar)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Isn&#39;t &quot;programmer art&quot; an oxymoron? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" /></p><p>(just bragging with my knowledge of pointless words)
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Torbjörn Josefsson)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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Nice old school style, but what&#39;s with the green skin?
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I&#39;m colourblind (seriously) <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (AngelChild)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>I resent that statement! Here, I made this to prove u wrong</p></div></div><p>Uh.. Way to use povray <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/rolleyes.gif" alt="::)" /></p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>You cant judge a programmers skill by how crap his/her art is</p></div></div><p>You can judge thier ART skills though.. yeesh. But that screen that guy showed with boxes and what not, that is the deffinition of programmers art. Even the big name game makers start off with such art.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 22:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>I&#39;m colourblind (seriously) <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /></p></div></div><p>colour blind artist.. wow, that&#39;s like a deaf pianist <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" /></p><p>I use carl&#39;s type of art for the module creation. Then replace them with programmers art or placeholders when the module is integrated into the rest of the system.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Derezo)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 22:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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Heh, so am I.  I used to have green skin in my old games <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />.  I was fine as soon as I started setting my own RPG values though.  I also used to have pink water and sky. - Magic pink (255,0,255) looks almost the same colour as sky blue to me.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (james_lohr)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 22:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Reno Midgar)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 22:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I didn&#39;t say it was good. I said it is THE deffinition of &quot;Programmers Art&quot; Now, you seem to be an artist as well. Most of us arn&#39;t. Hence the reason for &quot;Programmers Art&quot;.</p><p>You sure that wasn&#39;t povray? well it was some raycaster or 3d modeler. nothin to really write home about.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 23:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Reno Midgar)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 00:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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Its just plain Art. As you are an aritist... or so you claim.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 00:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Reno Midgar)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 00:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>You guys argue about the stupidest things. Who cares if it&#39;s programmer&#39;s art? Who cares what Yves says? Honestly.</p><p>On-topic: Those are nice, but I do second the requests for them all on one sheet, and maybe in .bmp format.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Synapse Jumps)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 02:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Programmer&#39;s art refers to temporary, generally awful, graphics intended as placeholders to work with while coding until decent/final artwork can be swapped in...</p><p>Marcello</p><p>p.s. that 3d render sucks
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Marcello)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 04:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Reno Midgar)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 04:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (AngelChild)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 04:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Marcello)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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Yurgh <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /><br />But seriously, how do you colorblind people manage in games? Seems to me that not seeing colors would be a serious disadvantage, especially in online vision-heavy games like FPSs <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (gnolam)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 06:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Well most colorblind people aren&#39;t completely colorblind, they just have trouble distinguishing red/green/whatever.  </p><p>But yea, it&#39;s a disability.  I mean, how do people with only one hand manage in games?  I&#39;m sure there are problems that apply there as well.</p><p>Marcello
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Marcello)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 06:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Yeah, it&#39;s not necessarily that we don&#39;t see colour, just that it&#39;s difficult to tell red/green or blue/yellow or whichever combination apart. I&#39;m not that bad really, but i do silly things like green skin a lot of the time. I do have a friend who can&#39;t see colour at all though <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/shocked.gif" alt=":o" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (AngelChild)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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Yeah, I have a friend who&#39;se like that too.</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>I&#39;m not that bad really, but i do silly things like green skin a lot of the time. I do have a friend who can&#39;t see colour at all though <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/shocked.gif" alt=":o" /></p></div></div><p>
I can&#39;t really imagine what that looks like... my own colour vision is excellent (even more so considering I&#39;m a guy - men typically have poorer colour vision than women), of which I&#39;m rather glad.</p><p>I do like the tiles and sprites, although I don&#39;t think I&#39;ll be using them.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Evert)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Well, from what he says I gather he can only see things in shades of black and white. So I&#39;d imagine it&#39;s a bit like seeing the world through a black and white TV set, although I don&#39;t know if that&#39;s anything like how he perceives it. I know that he can&#39;t watch television without special glasses though (i don&#39;t know how they work either, but they do, allegedly).
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (AngelChild)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>Seems to me that not seeing colors would be a serious disadvantage, especially in online vision-heavy games like FPSs</p></div></div><p>

That&#39;s why I don&#39;t play them.  Having said that, I&#39;m good at judging tones and light intensity (perhaps better than the average non-colourblind person).  For this reason I find red and yellow very easy is distinguish between, but red/green impossible.</p><p>Having played around with RGB values in PSP, I&#39;ve come to realise something quite interesting: Any two colours that have a similar total R+G value (in fact it&#39;s a bit more like R+1.3*G) I have trouble telling the difference between. e.g. (220,0,0) and (0,180,0) or (255,0,255) and (0,200,255).
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (james_lohr)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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but red/green impossible.
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This has always fascinated me. You see them as the same color? Is it a shade of gray?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Rampage)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 23:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Yes, I see them as almost the same colour (a reddish greeny brown colour).  So if you show me a dark green colour, I&#39;ll struggle to tell if it is red green or brown, but if you were to give me two pencils, one dark green and one red, although I would struggle, I would probably eventually be able to tell which is which (mainly from a lifetime of practice).</p><p>I certainly don&#39;t see in greyscale <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />.  Still, it can be a real pain in the *rse at times <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/angry.gif" alt="&gt;:(" />.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (james_lohr)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I once got told off for colouring in a map of britain red instead of green <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/shocked.gif" alt=":o" />. I&#39;ve also been known to colour my mum&#39;s hair green in pictures <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />. I have to concentrate greatly on something that&#39;s dark red/green to figure out what colour it is though <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/undecided.gif" alt=":-/" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (AngelChild)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Wow, colour blind women are very rare. And you program too? That&#39;s like a chance of ... one in a million!
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Mars)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2004 01:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>plus she is a good artist that programs, that lowers it to 1 in a billion <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (BAF)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (AngelChild)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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Somehow I now expect to see a picture of you with red or green hair! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Have considered dying it blue <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (AngelChild)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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<img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" /> You&#39;d have to use a peroxide dye I guess. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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You gotta have blue hair.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (23yrold3yrold)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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Then we&#39;ll have to see a picture! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" /> hehe!
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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You asked ...</p><p><span class="remote-thumbnail"><span class="json">{"name":"bluehair.gif","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/0\/e\/0e2215ff1cf299df316f540a7dd83ff7.gif","w":279,"h":356,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/0\/e\/0e2215ff1cf299df316f540a7dd83ff7"}</span><img src="http://www.allegro.cc//djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net/image/cache/0/e/0e2215ff1cf299df316f540a7dd83ff7-240.jpg" alt="bluehair.gif" width="240" height="306" /></span></p><p><a href="http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail57.html">I guess you didn&#39;t recognize the quote ...</a> <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" /></p><p>(made and posted that image in 3 minutes; it&#39;s a record ...)
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (23yrold3yrold)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (AngelChild)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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But will we see a photo showing the results? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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Hey! My hair is blue RIGHT NOW! I dyed it on Monday. I&#39;ll post a picture as soon as they get devolped
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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