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		<webMaster>matthew@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</webMaster>
		<lastBuildDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:36:15 +0000</lastBuildDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Hello everyone.</p><p>Ive put together a new automated GUI installer for Allegro. It also installs (if wanted) AllegroGL, AllegroFont and FBlend. I need you to test it.</p><p>All you need to do is double click the installer, select your wanted libs and then select your MinGW directory. It does the rest. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" /></p><p>Get it <a href="http://dragoon.pacdat.net/Allegro4LIBPackforMinGW.exe">here</a>.</p><p>EDIT: Damn it. All I need is a place to upload this thing, dragoon is down. I will try again in the morning. But for now I am going to sleep...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Gnatinator)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2004 15:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>You can get it <a href="http://www.bafsoft.com/files/alleg4ins.exe">here</a> on my site <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (BAF)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 02:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Yes, thank you for the webspace Baf. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cheesy.gif" alt=":D" /></p><p>Everyone start checking that stuff out! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Gnatinator)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2004 02:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Other than it uses nullsoft installer (which, anyway, is a personal preference), you did a good job <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />.</p><p>Some suggestions:</p><p>Add shortcuts for the documentation.</p><p>You seemed to static link the grabber and demo executables. Dynamic link + upx everything (probably not the debug dll, since upx would remove all debug info) would reduce the package size.</p><p>And there&#39;s an alfont directory, but it&#39;s almost empty (only some docs) and the includes are not anywhere.</p><p>Add link to the official Allegro site, too.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Oscar Giner)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 02:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
Add shortcuts for the documentation.</p></div></div><p>
noted. Will be in next version.
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You seemed to static link the grabber and demo executables. Dynamic link + upx everything (probably not the debug dll, since upx would remove all debug info) would reduce the package size.</p></div></div><p>
Huh? Please explain. Whats a upx? I didnt include all of the compiled examples because the download would shoot up to 30 megs <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" />.
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And there&#39;s an alfont directory, but it&#39;s almost empty (only some docs) and the includes are not anywhere.</p></div></div><p>
Ooopsie <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /> forgot to include those. Will be in next version.
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Add link to the official Allegro site, too. </p></div></div><p>
noted. Will be in next version.</p><p>Thanks for your input oscar.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Gnatinator)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 03:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=installer">Installamatator</a>?</p><p>UPX = <a href="http://upx.sourceforge.net/">The Ultimate Packer for eXecutables</a></p><p>Will you be adding sound libraries?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (X-G)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 03:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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Quote:<br />You seemed to static link the grabber and demo executables. Dynamic link + upx everything (probably not the debug dll, since upx would remove all debug info) would reduce the package size.<br />Huh? Please explain. Whats a upx? I didnt include all of the compiled examples because the download would shoot up to 30 megs .
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You compiled the grabber and the demo program with the static version of allegro. Since you already have to include the dll, why not use it?</p><p>X-G already pointed what upx. Just note that it can be used with dll&#39;s, too.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Oscar Giner)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 03:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>OOooo.. I will have to take a look at this UPX stuff... <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cheesy.gif" alt=":D" /></p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
Will you be adding sound libraries?</p></div></div><p>
I was going to add FMOD for sound. HawkNL for networking. And one of our GUI packages for GUI, But then the whole installer got much larger. If enough of you think that the cost of the download size would be worthwhile (bloating the download to ~15-20 megs) then tell me and I will expand it to include them. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /></p><p>Regardless... This installer should make setting up quick workstations a breeze.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Gnatinator)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 04:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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Net install?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (X-G)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 04:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>InnoSetup, with one of its addons (ISTool), supports net install.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Oscar Giner)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 04:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Or maybe two versions. A net&#39; one and a local one. Gentoo style <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" />.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Gnatinator)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 04:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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You know, most net installs can be turned into local ones by simply downloading all the packages but not actually installing any of them. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (X-G)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 04:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>Other than it uses nullsoft installer (which, anyway, is a personal preference), you did a good job .</p></div></div><p>

I haven&#39;t downloaded this myself (9megs? I already have allegro =P), but you should use the modern UI version of nsis.  That one looks really slick (better than most, including inno).</p><p>NSIS also supports net install/webinstall but I haven&#39;t messed with it myself:
</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">features list said:</div><div class="quote"><p>Support for web installation, file patching</p><p>The NSIS distribution includes a set of plug-ins that allow you to download files from the internet, make internet connections, patch existing files and more. </p></div></div><p>

Marcello
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Marcello)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 04:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I think he uses the new UI. I don&#39;t like it the either. [edit]it&#39;s not bad, there are just some minor things that I like more how InnoSetup does them [/edit]</p><p>I checked InnoSetup + ISTool net install and it sucks. You have to manually download each file. It&#39;s not package based.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Oscar Giner)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 04:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Yup, it uses the modern UI.<br />NSIS does a better job then InnoSetup (its much easier). Ive tried both already.</p><p>Im feeling really hyper from all the easter chocolate. Maybe I should go run around a bit. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Gnatinator)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 04:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Gnatinator: i can host netinstall crap if you want to do net install... which i think is a very good idea <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" /></p><p>anyway, we can write our own installer for it :-D
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (BAF)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 05:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>lmao I misread. teh comment.  any chance on fixing that quote tag, ml?</p><p>Marcello
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Marcello)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 05:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>Gnatinator: i can host netinstall crap if you want to do net install... which i think is a very good idea</p></div></div><p>
Very good... very good.. I will contact you about that when I get a system going. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cheesy.gif" alt=":D" /></p><p>Yeah, I found NSIS script to be much more powerful.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Gnatinator)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 05:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>I was going to add FMOD for sound.</p></div></div><p>

Might I suggest you also include DUMB?</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>And one of our GUI packages for GUI</p></div></div><p>
IMHO, ADime would be nice there too.</p><p>I&#39;d have other suggestions, nut I can understand you don&#39;t want to bloat the package, so I leave it at this.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Evert)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I wonder if installer could do some nice things like compiling examples during installation (in case it doesn&#39;t do it already, I haven&#39;t tried it yet). You&#39;d have compiled examples and package wouldn&#39;t get bloated in this case. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Krzysztof Kluczek)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 19:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>The problem is that the user may not have the mingw variables and path set. This makes things more difficult for the installer.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Oscar Giner)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>The problem is that the user may not have the mingw variables and path set. This makes things more difficult for the installer.</p></div></div><p>

Just have it check if they are set and if so, use them as default variables; else, ask for them.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (X-G)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Yeah, but the user won&#39;t like you set the variables globally. So you&#39;ll need to automatically generate a .bat file that sets the variables and does the compilation. Not sure if that can be done with nullsoft installer. You can write an external program that generates and executes these bat files.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Oscar Giner)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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I&#39;ll hazard a guess since I haven&#39;t use it extensively and say that you can. Shouldn&#39;t be too hard a task to accomplish at any rate.
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