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		<title>Let&#39;s animate!</title>
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		<webMaster>matthew@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</webMaster>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Everybody! Go download EasyToon and animate. It&#39;s great fun. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /></p><p>Here&#39;s my first attempt:</p><p><img src="http://www.allegro.cc//djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net/image/cache/2/f/2f58d482480dc6eb0076752e0737930b.gif" alt="ez_first.gif" width="160" height="120" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Peitz)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (spellcaster)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Oops, sorry. <br />Original version (non english): <a href="http://www.radiumsoftware.com">http://www.radiumsoftware.com</a><br />English and somewhat enhanced version: <a href="http://nyuu.cellosoft.com/projects/trans.htm">http://nyuu.cellosoft.com/projects/trans.htm</a>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Peitz)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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That&#39;s really good! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cheesy.gif" alt=":D" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Thanks!</p><p>Here&#39;s some more:<br /><img src="http://www.allegro.cc//djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net/image/cache/d/7/d7262c007c59a77d9d983c5b42e36235.gif" alt="ez_second.gif" width="160" height="120" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Peitz)</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I warn you all, what you are about to see is my <b>real</b> drawling skill, it was not done by someone else. This is the real deal:</p><p>http://www.cljy.com/~billy/StupidAnim.gif
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Billybob)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>hmmm methinks JP is quite good at this. Either that or you and I are just bad <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />. (mine was too shameful to even post).
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (james_lohr)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I agree. That program didn&#39;t make me an animator.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Matthew Leverton)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Dunno, I still think lopes takes the cake...</p><p><img src="http://www.allegro.cc//djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net/image/cache/9/e/9ee361d89e156406a0358cb6bc8e73f8.gif" alt="AC01.gif" width="160" height="120" /></p><p>lmao, mockup is broken again</p><p>Marcello
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Marcello)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>http://morph.hey.nu/my_gif.gif</p><p><img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /></p><p>Edit: Doesn&#39;t Johan have a Tablet PC? Won&#39;t that explain the good drawing? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kanzure)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>http://www.loomsoft.net/downloads/other/zeppy.gif<br />Drawn really quick, and I made the speed way too fast, but I don&#39;t really care. It&#39;s ZEP! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /> Maybe my next one will be done with more care and look a lot nicer!
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Ultio)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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Heh; this is just like how I envisioned my animation editor (Bola). Except this actually works <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" /></p><p>I have to get back to that one of these epoches ...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (23yrold3yrold)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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Ultio: Nice. After viewing the image Marcello tried to post, maybe you should have Zep in an action fighter game. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" /> Would be interesting. (Zep fits the characteristics, thus why I say Zep.)
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kanzure)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Kanzure: that would rule! I can see Zep doing all sorts of crazy things and looking absolutely rockin&#39; while doing them. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" /> Don&#39;t worry; Zep isn&#39;t through yet. He&#39;ll appear once again, for sure (in a game, that is. heh). <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Ultio)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>o__O Lopez is da best... I don&#39;t think many of us here are real artistic with the exception of Pietz and Marcello.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Steve Terry)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>I don&#39;t think many of us here are real artistic with the exception of Pietz and Marcello.</p></div></div><p>Hey!! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" /></p><p>Anyway, yeah. Shame the mock-up broke on that one; everyone view it! It&#39;s definitely the best so far <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cool.gif" alt="8-)" />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Have you guys seen the one that&#39;s in color where the random guy goes around killing tons of school girls (and it keeps a count showing in one of the corners)? That one rules. I forget what it&#39;s called so I don&#39;t have a link, but if someone knows it, post it! It&#39;s great. Frigging amazing, actually.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Ultio)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Tee hee<br />http://www.binarysurge.com/misc/yum.gif<br />Clearly, it doesn&#39;t give you the ability to draw well, but, man, is it easy to animate with this thing or what?! I&#39;ll answer that. Yes, yes it is.</p><p>Also, I certainly stole Johan&#39;s theme of people constantly getting smashed by a giant hammer by giant people, except in this case, it&#39;s people constantly being magically transmogrified into a small bit of indeterminate matter and eaten by a giant.
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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Ultio: Yeah, I posted that a while ago. Hang on; I&#39;ll see if I can find it ...</p><p>EDIT: <a href="http://www.allegro.cc/go.php?http://www.epiccentre.com/dokutake/100.gif">Found it!</a> I rock ... I warn you it&#39;s pretty bloody though <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /></p><p>EDIT2: As long as we&#39;re talking awesome animation, who&#39;s seen <a href="http://www.articlechampion.com/downloads/download.htm">this movie</a> yet? Cool cel-shaded 3D rendered fight scene. Bonus points for stealing a Transformers sound effect <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cool.gif" alt="8-)" />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Some even cooler ones (what inspired lopes&#39;):<br /><a href="http://wf.31rsm.ne.jp/~kymg/top.htm">http://wf.31rsm.ne.jp/~kymg/top.htm</a></p><p>Click work on the menu, then click the various Acts 1-10 (yep there are 10 of them!) under the &quot;anime&quot; section on the right.</p><p>Marcello
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Marcello)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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I&#39;m definately keeping this program! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /></p><p>http://www.shadecat.com/art/blob.gif</p><p>Johan: I FORMALLY CHALLENGE you to make a game in this style using animations like that! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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Nope, that&#39;s all mouse work. I have a tablet, but I never get my lines striaght using it. :/</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>Johan: I FORMALLY CHALLENGE you to make a game in this style using animations like that!</p></div></div><p>
Well, it&#39;s a deal. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /> But that means you do one too, right?</p><p>It&#39;s would require heaps of artwork though. Maybe the best approach would be to write a game using vector graphics and then have your own wiggly drawing primitives. </p><div class="source-code snippet"><div class="inner"><pre><span class="k1">void</span> line_wiggly<span class="k2">(</span><a href="http://www.allegro.cc/manual/BITMAP" target="_blank"><span class="a">BITMAP</span></a> <span class="k3">*</span>bmp, <span class="k1">int</span> x1, <span class="k1">int</span> y2, <span class="k1">int</span> x2, <span class="k1">int</span> y2, <span class="k1">int</span> width, <span class="k1">double</span> wigglyness<span class="k2">)</span><span class="k2">;</span>
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Oh man, it&#39;s gonna hurt the eys. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Peitz)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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Unfortunately I don&#39;t have time at the moment to do one. I&#39;d like too as well. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/sad.gif" alt=":(" /></p><p>How long did those animations take to do? I imagine a lot quicker than normal colour gfx animations. As long as you store the animations in a compressed format I think you&#39;d only have memory to worry about. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /></p><p>Perhaps someone else can do a lineart style game as well as you in my place? <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cool.gif" alt="8-)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Peitz)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>They took about an hour each. </p></div></div><p>

Don&#39;t you have some kickarse game to develop? Nobody should have that much random free time to make..animations like that.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kanzure)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Thanks for the link Johan..  Now I have a way to make pointless stick figure animations on a pc <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />  Just like the ones I used to do in H.S. on flip books.  Weeee</p><p>Here&#39;s what I have so far.. Ph33r my 1337 pixal skeelz.</p><p>http://paranoima.dyn.ee/wip-1.gif</p><p>right now, I&#39;m not sure how I plan to end it but I&#39;m sure something will come to me soon. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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Hmm... I guess I do. Richard, I hope you don&#39;t get too mad, but I think I&#39;ll drop out from the challenge. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Peitz)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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Hmm..</p><p>I hereby nominate Kanzure to fulfill the challenge. Since he discouraged you, he should take full responsability! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" /></p><p><img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Kanzure seems to forget that people need to take a break from things once in a while <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 01:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>I hereby nominate Kanzure to fulfill the challenge</p></div></div><p>

Hmm..I&#39;m affraid I can&#39;t accept the challange right now. For one, I have no experiance with anything (but blitting) needed for a game like that, so meh.  Would be fun.</p><p>Maybe we can abduct somebody else to do it. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" /></p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>Kanzure seems to forget that people need to take a break from things once in a while  </p></div></div><p>

<img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/undecided.gif" alt=":-/" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kanzure)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 04:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Hmm ... well, one could do it without doing crazy vector graphics by simply using the images the program generates as it&#39;s tiles / character anims.  A simple tilemap ... just one in which all tiles are animated.  It could actually be kinda cool ... if painful to look at.  Although I suppose then you&#39;d have to worry about repetitive animations become annoying, not to mention the extra file size.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Zaphos)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 04:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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The cartoon Ed, Edd, and Eddy looks like how the game would be. It&#39;s not hard on the eyes, because it uses multiple colors. Just the outlines go swiggly and such..
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kanzure)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 04:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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Kanzure, You must join with the animating side. It is your destiny!!! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cheesy.gif" alt=":D" /></p><p>Search your feelings.. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 05:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Steve Terry)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 05:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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But Google doesn&#39;t do that! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cry.gif" alt=":&#39;(" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kanzure)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 05:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>There is a game out there (a platformer) that uses wiggly vector lines for it&#39;s graphics. I remember it actually being quite good.  Don&#39;t remember what it was called though :S.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (james_lohr)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>There was a Tetris game with wiggly lines not so long ago, they didn&#39;t move though.</p><p>It would be really cool to see a 3D game with wiggly black/white gfx.</p><p>Also [url <a href="http://robotduck.com/">http://robotduck.com/</a>] has several sketchy games, but I want to turn your attention to Yard Invaders <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Trezker)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Halmén)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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No, just a &quot;challange&quot;.</p><p><b>ahem</b><br />w00t!<br />1,000th post!
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Halmén)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Haha, that&#39;s great! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cheesy.gif" alt=":D" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Peitz)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>http://w23.calypso.net/ci-119436/kakor.gif
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (deps)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>What about yoshi&#39;s island?</p><p>Marcello
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Marcello)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 22:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I thought yoshi&#39;s island just had think black outlines to it&#39;s sprites - I can&#39;t remember them wiggling but I may be wrong.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (james_lohr)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>There were times in which they wiggle, but not always, it was fairly static.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (MiquelFire)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>well stuff like the flowers and whatnot wiggled.</p><p>Marcello
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Marcello)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2004 00:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I suppose they did <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/rolleyes.gif" alt="::)" />.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (james_lohr)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2004 03:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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The lines didn&#39;t &quot;wiggle&quot;. It just looked like it was colored by crayons.</p><p>You want animation with lines that &quot;wiggle&quot;, go watch Stickin&#39; Around <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (23yrold3yrold)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2004 03:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>http://www.cljy.com/~billy/swimming.gif
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Billybob)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2004 03:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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That&#39;s great William! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /></p><p>I didn&#39;t necessarily mean wiggly lines. Just a game that had this quick cartoon style animation. Think The Mighty Stopid in Johan&#39;s style. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/cheesy.gif" alt=":D" />, or Alex 4 in a b/w cartoon 640 x 480 (or higher) mode. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /></p><p>Well, I like the look even if no one else does!</p><p><img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2004 03:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I could make a game with quick cartoon style animation, especially since ANY drawing I do is going to look all wiggly and cruddy.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Billybob)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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Hey, you guys can collaberate on sprites for &quot;Oh, Diana!&quot; or whatever it&#39;s called <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (23yrold3yrold)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Ok. I finally got up the courage to do one.<br />.. and it is the best one here and you know it! <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" /></p><p>http://www.ericswebsite.com/allegroiscool.gif
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Derezo)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I keep starting, doing like 3 frames, and then giving up.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (james_lohr)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>I keep starting, doing like 3 frames, and then giving up. </p></div></div><p>
Yup, that pretty much sums it up for me too.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (raist0069)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Yeah. The above was my first try.<br />I tried to do a sword fight a minute ago.. with a ninja who had nunchakus. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /><br />Third frame in, &quot;how about no! Ok, Derezo?&quot;.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Derezo)</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2004 05:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>a classic (4k?) demo did 3d with wiggling lines. looked really drawn and nice. saw it some 5+ years ago.</p><p>&quot;the paper demo&quot; if you wanna look for it. DOS of course.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Johan Henriksson)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2004 03:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>If it&#39;s stickmen you want, check out<br /><a href="http://dogbomb.co.uk/go/link/00000221/">XiaoXiao</a></p><p>Also I read somewhere an article about a gui using wiggly &#39;hand-drawn&#39; lines..</p><p>Finally for UK folks there&#39;s always Roobarb and Custard <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" /></p><p>Pete
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Peter Hull)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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If it&#39;s stickmen you want, check out<br />XiaoXiao
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I saw this some time ago. The third one is GREAT:)
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Oscar Giner)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2004 05:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Yea, me too. I should go see them again, cause I have cable now and it wont take forever to download &#39;em.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Billybob)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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Everybody has seen them. They aren&#39;t new. Now if only somebody could make that in C/C++, as a reusable engine...mm...possibilities.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kanzure)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p><span class="remote-thumbnail"><span class="json">{"name":"meskiing.gif","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/9\/0\/90deaac17e010bec3fcd2da1ff27a8d1.gif","w":320,"h":240,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/9\/0\/90deaac17e010bec3fcd2da1ff27a8d1"}</span><img src="http://www.allegro.cc//djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net/image/cache/9/0/90deaac17e010bec3fcd2da1ff27a8d1-240.jpg" alt="meskiing.gif" width="240" height="180" /></span></p><p><b><u>WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA</u></b>. This actually happened to me, three weeks ago. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" /></p><p>[EDIT]<br />The animation seems to have taken me four hours and 35 minutes. That was with losing a frame at one point though ...</p><p><b>Beware: if you click &#39;New Animation&#39; (which I tend to do by mistake instead of clicking &#39;New Frame&#39;), it will lose your work - even if you cancel the dimensions dialogue.</b> This happened when I first tried the program out, and I lost the whole animation. It happened twice today, but this time I was saving frequently; I lost nothing the first time, and I lost one frame the second time. It could have been worse.</p><p>Oh, and I highly recommend animation if you want to practise getting proportions and perspective right. It forces you to see the errors and fix them. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Bruce Perry)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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Nice animation but:</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>
The animation seems to have taken me four hours and 35 minutes
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<img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/shocked.gif" alt=":o" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (james_lohr)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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I believe there is a copy button in there, so, why did it take so long? Just copy the background, paste it each time, and draw the character a bit different. Repeat. (That itself would take at least an hour..)
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kanzure)</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p><i>Pfffffft.</i> James, you keep giving up. Kanzure, your animation doesn&#39;t exactly demonstrate any real artistic ability (not to say you couldn&#39;t draw well if you put more time - like, four hours or more - into it!).</p><p>And if the program did layers, I would have been quicker. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/rolleyes.gif" alt="::)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Bruce Perry)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>use macromedia fireworks!</p><p><a href="http://marcello.cellosoft.com/art/?flip01.swf">http://marcello.cellosoft.com/art/?flip01.swf</a></p><p>Marcello
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Marcello)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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</p><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>any real artistic ability</p></div></div><p>

Never in my life have I said I have &quot;artistic ability&quot; <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/wink.gif" alt=";)" /> <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/tongue.gif" alt=":P" /> Ever wonder why I don&#39;t do my own game graphics?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kanzure)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>Ever wonder why I don&#39;t do my own game graphics? </p></div></div><p>
No, should we?</p><p>Marcello
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Marcello)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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No. Stalkers <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/angry.gif" alt="&gt;:(" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kanzure)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Well then Kanzure, I guess you aren&#39;t qualified to comment on the amount of time I took, are you. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Bruce Perry)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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I have never re-compiled a linux kernel, but I know it does not take 32 hours. Because I haven&#39;t, I&#39;m not allowed to make an educated guess? What a cruel world.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Kanzure)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Its not an educated guess if you have no data/experience to back it up with.</p><p>It might qualify to be a guestimate, maybe.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>You can hardly compare art to a technical process that can be timed.</p><p>Marcello
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Marcello)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I didn&#39;t say your animation was bad, or that it took too long, just that I&#39;m amazed you had the patience to finish it.  10 minutes and I&#39;m like: &quot;AAhh!&quot;.  20 and I&#39;m like: &quot;Ggrg arrgg feeuuggrr! fuu! grrrr&quot;.  4 1/2 hours and all my hair would be torn out and I would be frothing at the mouth...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (james_lohr)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 03:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>I dunno -- when I&#39;ve played around with art programs and it&#39;s been going decently (read: using wings3d), I can spend many hours modelling and I won&#39;t even notice the time go by.  If one is making some progress the whole time, instead of getting something that one likes less with every addition, it can be quite absorbing.  Much like coding -- who hasn&#39;t done a spree of at least 4.5 hours coding and enjoyed it?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Zaphos)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 05:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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Just did one, actually <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" /> Much joy in tonight&#39;s journal entry ...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (23yrold3yrold)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 05:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Oh, sorry James - hope I didn&#39;t offend you then. If you find art frustrating, have you tried following a tutorial?
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Bruce Perry)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 05:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>who hasn&#39;t done a spree of at least 4.5 hours coding and enjoyed it?</p></div></div><p>
I&#39;ve easily done &gt;8hr stretches.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Thomas Fjellstrom)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 06:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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Much joy in tonight&#39;s journal entry ... </p></div></div><p>

Have you posted it yet? Can only see the only for the 19th? I&#39;ve looked at the top &amp; bottom.</p><p><img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 06:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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Bobby finally reordered the journal entries, and added commenting abilities again (yay!) Entry coming later tonight ...
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (23yrold3yrold)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 06:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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If you find art frustrating, have you tried following a tutorial? 
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Actually I love doing my own graphics.  I did most of the art for my rpg (see my sig) and really enjoyed it.  In fact I even did it in my own bmp editor.  It&#39;s just that when something seems a bit pointless and I know that I have loads of real work to do (assignments etc.), it agitates me.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (james_lohr)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 06:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Gotcha. You&#39;re above the rest of us then <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/grin.gif" alt=";D" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Bruce Perry)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 06:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><p>Hell yeah, miles above <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/kiss.gif" alt=":-*" />.
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (james_lohr)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div class="mockup v2"><div class="quote_container"><div class="title">Quote:</div><div class="quote"><p>Have you posted it yet?</p></div></div><p>Have now. Start leaving comments again!
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (23yrold3yrold)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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I tried leaving a comment, but it doesn&#39;t seem to have worked.</p><p>Anyway, sounds like you made good progress and got a lot done! I&#39;ll be looking forward to seeing those screenshots. <img src="http://www.allegro.cc/forums/smileys/smiley.gif" alt=":)" />
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		<author>no-reply@allegro.cc (Richard Phipps)</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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