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amarillion
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January 2001
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Yes, I like this one better. Not in the least because it has a neutral option. Only downside is that it's a bit US-centric. For example, questions about guns are going to be a lot more controversial in the US than pretty much anywhere else.

It's silly to put everything down to a single left/right axis. The two-party system in the US pushes people to define themselves along this one axis, when there is a lot more variety of ideas out there.

edit: although I have no idea what "Libertarian socialism" is. I thought libertarians are against market regulations and any restriction on freedom?

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MiquelFire
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January 2003
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Bob
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September 2000
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Agree that the questions can sometimes be ambiguous. E.g. "Quality education is a right of all people.", to which I agree with.

However, I fear the test scoring may choose to put me in the "equality" category instead of the "market" category: I think anyone should be able to obtain any level of quality education they can convince someone else to provide; in that respect, it's their right.

I don't take it to mean that a coercive arrangement should be made, either by forcing educators to provide education by force, or by taking resources from others to give to the educators, etc.

Similar concerns with the other questions.

Anyway, here are my results, because why not.

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bamccaig
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July 2006
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torhu said:

Far-Left libertarians: people that think that Robin Hood is a scaleable scenario ::)

Conservatives: people that think when a corporation is granted tax relief that it'll trickle down to savings for poor people. :P

Bob said:

Anyway, here are my results, because why not.

I'm disappointed in you. >:(

Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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bamccaig said:

Conservatives: people that think when a corporation is granted tax relief that it'll trickle down to savings for poor people.

Why not? If they reduce the cost of production, the invisible hand of Adam Smith kicks in and they cut the retail price to attract more buyers through competition. OTOH, fanboys of a particular brand <cough>Apple<cough> aren't nearly so susceptible to such a thing, but hard drives? yeah.

And Robin Hood wasn't stealing from the rich to give to the poor, he was taking back that which had been stolen from the poor. Today's situation is considerably more complicated, but ultimately the price of freedom (of any kind) is eternal vigilance.

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Bob Keane
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June 2006

Why not? If they reduce the cost of production, the invisible hand of Adam Smith kicks in and they cut the retail price to attract more buyers through competition.

That would be deflation, and deflation is a bad thing. But don't worry, executive compensation rises to combat the problem. As for trickle down, it does not exist.

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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Bob Keane said:

That would be deflation

So since the original IBM PC with 16KB of RAM, a 4.77 Mhz 16 bit processor with an 8 bit bus and a single floppy drive, which cost $1600 ($4500 in 2020 dollars) compared to a $600 3Ghz 64 bit machine with a couple of terabytes of hard disk and 8 gigs of ram and performs several thousand times faster is a bad thing?

The (a designation I dare not mention here, but control the Federal Reserve among other things) puts such nonsense in your head.

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

bamccaig
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July 2006
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Why not? If they reduce the cost of production, the invisible hand of Adam Smith kicks in and they cut the retail price to attract more buyers through competition.

Tax savings are a temporary measure. If every business slashed their prices to pass on the savings they'd be putting themselves into precarious waters if the tax cuts are lifted. Suddenly the price has to jump back up again, and the business needs to restructure again to compensate. And now you risk your customers being irate at the price increase. It's safer to reinvest the money elsewhere, and never affect the consumer. For example, if any equipment has been neglected now you have an easy way to replace it on the taxpayer's dime. Or if there's any mandatory training (e.g., anti-discrimination or safety or something else) that you have to give to your employees then you can pay for it that way. Or you can invest the money for a rainy day. Or reward yourself and your partners in crime with a big bonus.

Trickle down economics doesn't work. We know this. It has never worked. Instead, the corporations get even richer, and the people get even poorer. The gap between the classes grows. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

If you want to stimulate an economy you give the money to the people. If people don't have money they can't go spend it. If people do have money they will go spend it. Especially poor people. You stimulate the economy by giving money to the people that need to spend it, not the corporations whose role is providing products or services for money. If you just give them the money then they don't need the consumer at all. Goal accomplished.

And Robin Hood wasn't stealing from the rich to give to the poor, he was taking back that which had been stolen from the poor. Today's situation is considerably more complicated, but ultimately the price of freedom (of any kind) is eternal vigilance.

Any time somebody acquires significantly more wealth than his neighbors you can bet he's either exploiting the community or exploiting some community resource that he's claimed as his own.

Like Nestle drying up a fresh water supply, bottling it, and then charging the town stupid prices for bottled water. The difference between the "haves" and the "have nots" is mostly luck and corruption.

Unfortunately, America is in love with the idea that if you work hard you will succeed. You've been indoctrinated with that idea all of your life so that when you work hard and you don't get ahead you don't come to your senses and confront the system. Instead, you double down, and you work twice as hard just to scrape by, proud of how good of a citizen you are. It's very convenient for the people running the system when the system runs itself. No need to fix it when it's broken. The people aren't complaining.

amarillion
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January 2001
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Bob said:

Anyway, here are my results, because why not.

Well look at that Bob. We're pretty much the same on 3 out of 4 axes.

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Bob Keane
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June 2006

The (a designation I dare not mention here, but control the Federal Reserve among other things) puts such nonsense in your head.

I see your confusion. I forgot to use the proper html tags. <sarcasm> </sarcasm> Better?

By reading this sig, I, the reader, agree to render my soul to Bob Keane. I, the reader, understand this is a legally binding contract and freely render my soul.
If we get apple juice from squeezing apples, and we get prunes from drying out plums, where does prune juice come from?
Since gasoline contains ethanol, can self driving cars get duis?

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