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President electoral map predictions
Chris Katko
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January 2002
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Vote four years of new wars! WoOOooOOO!!! Take that brown people!

RIP SYRIA. Better clench that butthole now.

GET READY. Calling it now. Syria is going to have another "gas attack" on its own people in four years. US "peacekeepers" brought in to protect oil^H^H^Hsad kids.

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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I can never keep straight if we are electing a liberal, socialist, or Republican according to trumpers. Or if we are supposed to be counting votes now or not. Such inconsistent messages from the tucking in my pants club.

The Senate isn't decided yet and will come down to two run off elections in Georgia if I understand correctly. But regardless, yes, the Republicans had a good election. I don't think "liberals" are happy about that.

But there is great relief that Trump won't be in the White House soon. Republicans don't know what to do. After all they'll likely be facing off against Trump in another four years. Stock up on popcorn, you're going to need it.

Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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Yeah,the libs screamed "Russians are interfering in the election" in 2016, now they're all like "Elections are foolproof, interference isn't possible!"

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Matthew Leverton
Supreme Loser
January 1999
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It's different types of interference...

Nobody thought the Russians were voting for Trump. The Russia stuff is mostly about foreign "agents" spreading disinformation on social media. We don't need Russia for that anymore. Just subscribe to Trump's twitter feed.

The link between Russia and Trump in terms of direct involvement was laughingly weak. Trump isn't that subtle about things.

Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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The Russia stuff is mostly about foreign "agents" spreading disinformation on social media. We don't need Russia for that anymore. Just subscribe to Trump's twitter feed.

Refer to the thread "I was unable to think of a title" to see blatant disinformation, please. Also CNN, NBC, etc. claiming Biden has "won".

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

Chris Katko
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January 2002
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The Russia stuff is mostly about foreign "agents" spreading disinformation on social media.

Democrats: RUSSIANS are convincing people to vote because of evil MEMES!! People are influencable!

Also Democrats: No transgender person has ever regretted their surgery, and no transgender person has ever switched genders because the people around them all told them it would make them happy. People aren't influenceable.

Also Democrats: Noticing any flaws in Democrats logic is literal transphobia.

Twitter in 2016: "OMG Russians are influencing the election"
Twitter to congress in 2020 when grilled about censoring right-wing speech: "Twitter can't influence elections."

If you actually pay attention, even if you listen to nothing but "liberal approved" sources, you'll notice they have no standards whatsoever. It's just whatever they want you to sheepishly protest that day. (RIP ded kids in cages liberals forgot about. We wer so sad, now we forget.)

Also, if anyone was actually alive and using their brain back in 2008/2012, you'd remember John McCain saying Russia is a threat to America and they literally called him senile and said he had a "cold war mindset and that Russia isn't trying to take over the world." Interesting what four years does to... "facts".

Also remember how "anyone the russians like must be a secret agent of russia" which is why trump--which they preferred over hillary--is a secret agent "putin puppet"? Here's 2008 when Obama was their preferred candidate. So Obama was apparently a Russian agent too.

Literally nothing cohesive they put out makes sense unless you back up and realize it's just propaganda for whatever the current party wants the people to support. There is literally no other reason for so many 180 turns with zero journalists calling attention to it.

Migrants are POOR SOULS looking for lives and you're a BIGOT for denying them! And literally next year, MIGRANT VANS are a PLOY by Trump to get RE-ELECTED.

So, get ready for no banks being held accountable. Bailouts for megacorps but not for people. (Interesting how Dems couldn't be bothered to pass a second stimulus bill for Americans. "Screw the poor" is apparently their new slogan.) Oil companies drilling in Alaska and the ocean. And war war war. In otherwords, you just elected the status quo. The error [of democracy] has corrected itself. Defeated with the very propaganda tools people claimed the Russians used against them.

The only worthwhile thing they might accomplish, is reforming healthcare. Except the last time they did it, they did nothing but enrich the banks. I should know, we're paying $600/month for basic insurance with a TEN THOUSAND DOLLAR deductable before it starts paying. If that's "progress", then what's next? $1200/month?

Get ready for Syria 3.0. Because every status quo President of the last 30 years has been trying to get a reason to invade it. I hope those dead American bodies, and thousands of dead civilians were worth it.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not sour. You're the ones that get to reap what you sow. I'm going to be sitting back here with the ghost of George Carlin laughing at the chaos. Trump was an idiot and that's why he was perfect. With no connections everything he did got blocked which meant for a mere four years, we actually reduced how many brown people we blew up for oil. With no more wrenches in the machine, the gears of megacorporations can now turn again.

Signed, an actual liberal who actually doesn't enjoy when kids get blown up by drones.

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"Winners: Goldman Sachs, Wall Street, Military Industrial Complex, Health Insurance CEOs and out of control corruption."--Jimmy Dore, an actual liberal journalist

p.s. You know Biden voted for the Iraq War and Patriot Act, right? So all that "omg, we're so smart the Iraq war is just for oil" stuff you said back in 2004 makes you a raging hypocrite. And Kamala Harris not only put poor people in prison for being unable to pay fines, she laughed about it. SO PROGRESSIVE!

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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The prediction is based on statistical possibilities given the actual votes cast, the make up of what votes are remaining, and realistic trends of that data. There is no way for Trump to make it to 270 electoral votes, so yes, they predict that Biden will win.

Fox and AP prematurely called Arizona because they thought the remaining votes to be counted were mail-in ballots that have been trending everywhere (as expected) for Biden. A lot of those ballots were actually day-off drop-offs which were Republican heavy. They might end up being right, but they shouldn't have called it when they did.

But these predictions do not account for unrealistic chances for already reported votes to be changed during the recount / certification process. There is no way for Trump to win unless he wins several lawsuits that few, if any, legal scholars think is possible. Currently his lawyers are getting laughed out of the courts by the judges. One (Bush appointee) judge told one of his lawyers, "Don't quit your day job" - joking that his arguments were so bad he must not be a professional lawyer. :P

I've seen no actual evidence of fraud, other than he said / she said. Some dumb examples:

- Cannot use a sharpie! Actually, you can use a sharpie. Lawsuit withdrawn.
- We weren't allowed in the room to view the ballots! Actually, they were as the lawyer admitted under oath. Lawsuit dismissed. Both sides agreed to minimize the social distancing required to 6 feet.
- Somebody brought in a load of secret ballots on a wagon! Nope, it was a network camera man bringing in his equipment.
- Boarded up the windows! Yes some of them, but because the peanut gallery (not certified observers) was illegally recording the process from the outside and the nearby desk in question contained private voter records.
- More people voted than registered in a precinct! Yes, that happened in both Republican and Democratic ones. How? Same day voter registration and those who have legally moved but not yet updated their addresses. Neither of those things would be in the official records. Voter turnout was incredible. I hate Trump, but hopefully this is a lasting movement.

Etc.

I agree with the sentiment though that once the media portrays Biden as the winner and talks about him as the winner that if mistakes and fraud were to be found, it would be a tough pill for the public to swallow. (It would anyway, but this makes it far, far more difficult.)

But if Biden stay ahead in Arizona and Georgia, then Trump would have to get the results overturned in three or four states. Good luck, but I don't even think with the stacked Supreme Court that he has any shot at that.

Will there be mistakes discovered and corrected during recounts and certification process? Absolutely yes! But never have those mistakes been for substantial amounts of votes, and there's no reason for it to be like this here.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. The thought that both Republican and Democratic state officials across the country categorically conspired to throw the election in Biden's favor but only barely by tiny margins is ridiculous. And if you think only the Democrats are in on it, but forgot to throw the Senate and House is even more ridiculous. And why wait until now to do it? Those morons should have thrown it 4 years ago. ::)

Mail in ballots must originate from an official source due to barcoding, etc. The most plausible kind of fraud would be to steal someone's ballot (or claim a dead person's one). The former would be caught if done in large numbers because the actual person would try to vote in person and would be denied. The latter is harder to be caught, but would be in fewer numbers and is actually almost as easy to do in person.

So the scale of fraud that Trump alleges could happen is more about duplicating ballots in the counting rooms, discarding Trump ballots, etc. All of that stuff could be done on any election for any candidate. Except it's nearly impossible because there are observers and cameras everywhere.

Trump was an idiot and that's why he was perfect. With no connections everything he did got blocked which meant for a mere four years,

I would have agreed with this four years ago. In fact, I said at the time that I'd prefer Trump over Pence for that reason and the fact that Trump has no principles. I figured Trump would negotiate better between both parties, but that didn't happen. Whereas Pence is actually a certified very right/conservative candidate who is not going to compromise to get things done.

But I didn't consider that nothing would stop Trump from appointing complete morons to his cabinet and other high positions without much of a fight from the Republicans. While Trump's personal antics disgust me, the complete lack of competence surrounding him is why I dreaded a second Trump term.

The next two months will be interesting, but after Trump loses enough court cases, he'll begrudgingly have to concede as his Republican friends will make him. I'm more intrigued about how the Republicans will treat him in 2024 primaries. If he runs, it's money in the bank that he'll win the nomination again under current GOP rules.

Polybios
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October 2010

Chances are that Donald will keep up his Twitter activities during the next four years. He won't be gone.
Maybe he should be offered a role in a TV show again to satisfy his need for attention? I doubt he'll stick to full-time golf playing or whatever he does in his spare-time.

Bob Keane
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June 2006

Polybios said:

Chances are that Donald will keep up his Twitter activities during the next four years. He won't be gone.

Twitter will not post most of Trump's tweets.

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MiquelFire
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January 2003
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I remember hearing that some protection on Trump's Twitter account will be gone come January 20th, so there's a chance he won't be able to tweet at some point.

Actually think about, what is it about being the president that is protecting his account now that will be removed when he leaves office when you see that they're already hiding some tweets right now! And I think that announcement came after they had started blocking his tweets.

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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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After reading this post by Matt[1], I'm forced to step back a bit. I find I need to take a Zen-like attitude of "the wheel turns"[2] towards it all. I admit
that I might have some sort of Dunning-Kruger[3] going on. My health continues to deteriorate and I really doubt I'll live long enough to see the long term effects either way, unless
maybe this wuflu lockdown will abate so we can get back to normal lives.

I also admit that Trump runs his mouth too much on the spur of the moment, but if Biden takes over I'm pretty sure we'll see the end of:
The 4 million jobs that were created since '16 in spite of Obama saying "Those jobs aren't coming back"
More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs.
Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES. (although a lot of the decline was due to increased automation)
African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
Bowing out of the Paris Climate Accord which is really intended to spread America's wealth around the world.

I'll stop there before anyone's eyes glaze over.

To those who think Big Government is the answer, I hope you get your wishes. I really do. I hope you get your wishes GOOD AND HARD!!!111

Edit #5. I'd like to see some sort of preview mode before committing a post, although I realize that a.cc is pretty much a relic that won't go much further.

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

LennyLen
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December 2004
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Edit #5. I'd like to see some sort of preview mode before committing a post, although I realize that a.cc is pretty much a relic that won't go much further.

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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A great big ODARN echoes through the neighborhood.

They all watch too much MSNBC... they get ideas.

bamccaig
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July 2006
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Don't be embarrassed. It's incredibly difficult to find until you know it's there (and still remember?). I didn't see it until somebody pointed it out to me too (but that was after only a few months or so back in 2006). I pointed out how hard it was to notice, but Matthew disregarded my advice. :P

In hindsight, I seem not to have a mind or eye for graphical creation, whether imagery or interface. And I came to love the design of this site. It's not perfect, but it's closer than most. He was probably correct to question me.

That said, once you know it's there, it's perfect. It's compact and easy to use. It's not wasting needless space. Once your brain knows it's there the need for it to be prominent goes away.

Hmmm, I'm stoned, but perhaps there's a generic best practice software design idea here... UI that initially emphasizes all of the elements, but scales them back dynamically as you use them. Configurable so that if it becomes difficult to use it's easy to revert, but so that it sort of self-heals itself to be ideal for you today (or probably yesterday).

Chris, I like that you're around putting up a fight because it makes me more open-minded. There's no better way to form your ideas than battling them out and adjusting when you're wrong. :) For a while there was never any push back. It felt wrong. It felt like it wasn't worthwhile anymore. Like somehow I knew I wasn't completely correct (I don't believe that exists anymore), but I no longer had a community to correct me.

I like to think that I've come to some pretty good conclusions so far in life. And a lot of that has to do with the guidance of this community. It's easy to take too much credit for where you got to in life, but it takes a village. I couldn't have come to such good ideas if it weren't for this Web site and its members. Which is really why its decline has been so heartbreaking.

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