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bamccaig
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July 2006
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raynebc said:

Bam, I skim through aggregates of news from a variety of mainstream news sources and listen to and read centrist and conservative analysis of cultural and political news. The assessment you came up with regarding Pool is bunk, find a better one or drop the ignorant alt-right label. Your news source is in fact not unbiased, such a thing doesn't exist. You support anarchy over equal opportunity and the law and order that protects it. Your brain is poisoned beyond repair.

I didn't assess Pool. The Internet did. Take it up with RationalWiki, or go ahead an prove them wrong here. I'm open. Show me Pool being so liberal.

My news source is very much unbiased. I don't much subscribe to any political agenda. You're welcome again to demonstrate my news source being biased.

My brain is very open to good ideas. It has a pretty low tolerance for bullshit though.

A lot of straight men (and women, I assume) would be disgusted with themselves if they found out they fell for "something" they previously thought was an abomination. I would view it as less to do with you, and more to do with their own insecurities. Their world view would be shattered and obviously they would blame deception on that, as opposed to revising their views on sexual orientation.

I don't even think that you need to hold such a harsh perspective. I think that the deception is real. At least within the straight/"cis" community we consider sex/gender to be synonymous, and though we may respect trans-* decisions to live their life in a way that makes them happy, that doesn't impact who or what we find attactive. We're attracted physically by hardware, and the quality of hardware matters, for better or worse, in addition to software. To be fooled into thinking you're playing with a Mac instead of Linux would upset anyone. At least, anyone that cared. A straight/cis-gendered person probably will care equally to how well you pass as their desired mate physically as mentally.

That said, my wife likes to watch RuPaul's Drag Race, and Queer Eye, etc. And honestly I've found these entertaining as well. Sometimes I do find the men "attractive": either because they're in drag and pass as a woman, or just because they're confident and comfortable being themselves, and I enjoy seeing people at their best (it's also neat to see how skilled they care at what they're good at, and I appreciate that as well). That doesn't mean that I would laugh it off if I happened to end up on a date with a drag queen that didn't reveal the ruse as soon as it was appropriate. I can't imagine what there is to lose by being open: either the person is open to the idea, and it doesn't matter, or they aren't, and they'll likely be upset. I suppose you could hold the controversial viewpoint that a straight/"cis" person might be unknowingly closeted and you might expand their horizons, but that's a hell of a gamble that I would never take. Especially considering the likely outcomes if wrong.

That said too I think I would handle it pretty well if I did unknowingly end up on a date with a man. The idea isn't offensive to me. Hell, I bet men are a lot better at pleasing men than women are, and as long as nobody is being harmed I see nothing wrong with sex. Nevertheless, I think I would still be rather offput if a person I believed to be a cis-gendered/binary woman revealed themselves later to be otherwise. If only for the deception, it's still not a good way to approach a relationship.

I am sympathetic to the vulnerability of predeclaring that too. There are scary people in this world that seem to peak early in intellect. And some might be driven to cause harm by ideas that they consider wrong. I wish I had a solution to that...

Polybios
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October 2010

But really, you cannot instill a work ethic into an adult by simply refusing all social services. It just doesn't work. They'll either turn into criminals or mooch off of friends and family and strangers. So you really are better off as a society giving away the bare minimum necessities (cheap housing / food) to live. Anybody with an ounce of self-respect will do their hardest to avoid that life; anybody that doesn't care is highly unlikely to ever be useful to society... and you might as well keep them off the streets where you'll spend more resources on police enforcement.

That sounds quite European to me. I'd rather pay some more tax euros and be safe on the streets at night.

However, you have to consider immigration in the mix. Historically, Europe and the US have a different background here. I guess it's part of human nature that it feels different to support people of "other tribes" with your tax dollars compared to those of the same "tribe".

Edgar Reynaldo
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May 2007
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@Erin Maus
You never told me your sexual preferences, nor do I want to know what they are, so how could I know what you're into?

Let's clarify something. You were born a boy, but don't define yourself as boy or girl. You prefer the gender role of a woman, so you do your best to appear like a woman generally appears, right? Now since you're physically one thing, despite and because of HRT you present something else, a woman like physique. Now to most straight guys (Again I don't know what you're into, all you said was guys) you would appear female, but be considered male or trans by them (if they knew the full story). This is the deception I wanted you to avoid, for your safety, and their sanity. Because anything other than being up front about it would not be forthcoming, which as I said earlier, is deception. You might take a moment to think about why so many trans women are dying these days. It's because it's a shock to the system, and some psyches can't handle being duped into 'being gay'.

And that beautiful trans woman I told you about, I was initially attracted to her, I'll admit it, but I didn't find out until later she was transexual. That's not something I find personally appealing, and if I can respect your right to play with your gender, you can respect my right not to play with mine.

I don't know how well that all came out, but that's basically what I think.

By the way. We're on a new page.

I mean cmon, hasn't anybody here ever seen The Crying Game?

We watched that in HS, this is basic shit

Erin Maus
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July 2006
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I understand the concern, but...

First of all I'd never date a straight guy. ::) I typically don't even date cis peeps.

Second of all I'm asexual, there's not going to be sex, so my genitals don't matter.

Third of all, when do you disclose you had a hypothetical vasectomy when forming a relationship? That's often a dealbreaker. To me, as a trans person, being trans is similar sort of deal. It's only deceitful if the other person makes it clear that's (vasectomy, being transgender) not okay with them and you don't disclose it.

The point I'm trying to nail home is 'deceitful' is an offensive way of wording a trans person not disclosing their gender status. I'm a feminist, I understand the problems involved in not disclosing it sooner than later.

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I'm always up front about my gender identity and sexual orientation (panromantic asexual non-binary trans-feminine), but that's because who I am and I want to filter out people who 'aren't compatible' sooner than later. Because no sex is often a deal breaker, too.

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Chris Katko
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January 2002
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bamccaig said:

Take it up with RationalWiki, or go ahead an prove them wrong here.

Sigh...

https://www.quora.com/Is-RationalWiki-a-trustworthy-source

https://www.quora.com/Is-RationalWiki-a-leftist-propaganda-site

https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiInAction/comments/4s0q5l/eli5_what_exactly_is_rationalwiki_and_why_are_the/

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/WYzZ3bxctEJ2q6HFQ/what-are-your-thoughts-on-rational-wiki

https://dplore.fandom.com/wiki/RationalWiki

RationalWiki are the great, nice, super nice folks who decided feminist Christina Hoff Sommers "wasn't a feminist" even though she literally is a member of the 2nd wave "bra burning" feminists and has voted Democrat her entire life. Her evil crime? Saying that boys have unique challenges for their gender and have issues that need dealt with, like suicide rates, homeless rates, crime and dropout rates from highschool and college. If you ever heard her speak (watch say, her on Joe Rogan, or any of her public talks) you would see she's nothing but a warm, well-intention ed, and factual indivudual.

RationalWiki is where the Athiest+ (athiesm as a religion) nutjobs on Reddit hang out. Those people who can't just believe in no God, they have to make SURE you KNOW there is no God. They're the vegans of religions.

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Polybios
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October 2010

Nooo, Mr Katko, don't feed the bambam :-/

Edgar Reynaldo
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raynebc
Member #11,908
May 2010

Edgar, I'm not on the side advocating for the taking of other peoples' rights and property in order to achieve "equal outcomes." In addition to spending my earnings on goods and services, I'm actually performing work to earn that money. Labor is one of the things that gives money its value as a trade medium. You keep your broken morality, I'll even tell you that you can believe you're right if that makes you feel happier.

Matthew, people should leave the over-crowded and over-priced cities. They should also stop going into decades-long debt to get a degree that gives them very little added value in the job market. They also shouldn't consider minimum wage enough to afford their own apartment except for the very cheapest ones, and they may have to have a room mate or two. Even today I live in a house with 3 friends. Many years ago I was considering online colleges and the price tag severely put me off. After some thought, I decided to get a 2 year degree in a technical trade school and that has served me very well. Whether or not somebody is reluctantly willing to get paid for nothing (ie. if they have to in order to make ends meet) versus eager to get paid for nothing (because they're lazy) largely is based on one's upbringing and morals. Offering a safety net shouldn't turn into offering a cozy hammock, handouts should not be permanent for able-bodied and minded people and they definitely should not become an incentive to be unemployed.

Bam, you didn't read "The Internet's" assessment of Pool, you read a leftist's assessment. You clearly aren't going to spend any significant amount of your time to consume his content first-hand so I'm not going to waste my own time spoon feeding you with points you'll ignore. Ditto for trying to convince you on whether any mainstream news outlet could be anywhere as unbiased as you naively think.

Edgar Reynaldo
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raynebc said:

Edgar, I'm not on the side advocating for the taking of other peoples' rights and property in order to achieve "equal outcomes."

That's exactly what you're for, except the 'equal outcomes' bs you added at the end. I don't expect everyone to be equal, that will never happen nor should it, but the disparities between the rich and the poor are so great that even a small balancing of wealth would put this country in a much more advantageous state, financially, economically, physically, and socially.

Your corporations take people's rights and properties all the time, charging more than they should, paying less than they should, squandering wealth and exploiting cheap labor. You should be ashamed to hold such a world view, that people with the capital to build society are the only ones who have a right to that capital.

It's called taxes, and Republicans are explicitly known for giving tax cuts to the rich, and taking money away from the poor. You should be ashamed to belong to such a party of thieves. This country and the workers in it are the reasons they do so well to begin with. Because capitalism works by skimming every last dollar you can off the backs of hardworking people.

If you work a full time job in this country, you should be able to afford basic housing, health care, food, and insurance, as well as school if you choose to get an education.

Fancy that, I didn't swear at you once. Go figure.

raynebc
Member #11,908
May 2010

You can actually go a full post while having a modicum of manners? Do you expect a cookie or something? Conservatives and libertarians don't believe in the government taking from one person to give to another just to try to balance the scales. You have to eventually accept that your viewpoint isn't automatically correct just because you like it. My side is not going to side with the communists and socialists on much in this regard, so your slander is pointless and only agreed on by your side's partisans.

Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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So Trump doesn't think children can catch and spread COVID-19 diseases. Do Trump fans here believe him? If you don't believe him, do you think Facebook/Twitter should be allowed to take down his dangerous lies (or call it deceptively worded statements if you prefer)?

I get that he uses wiggle words like "almost most definitely" so that the more intelligent Trump fans can say he didn't really mean it or say it. But come on, we all know what 98% of Trump fans hear with the Scientist speaks like this.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-1315_article

Various things in there, but in a nutshell <10 years old is less at risk, but children 10-19 seems to be of equal risk. And of course healthy people (which includes most young people) are very unlikely to have serious complications from COVID-19.

None of this supports both the technical and commonly understood definitions of "almost definitely immune." ::)

Edgar Reynaldo
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May 2007
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raynebc said:

You can actually go a full post while having a modicum of manners? Do you expect a cookie or something? Conservatives and libertarians don't believe in the government taking from one person to give to another just to try to balance the scales. You have to eventually accept that your viewpoint isn't automatically correct just because you like it. My side is not going to side with the communists and socialists on much in this regard, so your slander is pointless and only agreed on by your side's partisans.

Okay buddy. I tried to be nice.

Conservatives and libertarians DO believe in taking from one person to give to another in the name of Capitalism. Of course they don't try to balance the scales, they eternally try to rig them in their favor. I actually didn't slander anyone. What I said was the truth, which isn't slander, it's good reporting.

Oh, by the way, classic stall tactic ignoring all my valid points in favor of replying to an irrelevant one, which was just an attempt to make nice. I'll be sure not to do so in the future.

8-)

jmasterx
Member #11,410
October 2009

New song

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Edgar Reynaldo
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May 2007
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jmasterx said:

New song

I like it. Liked and shared on FB. Hope I can get you some views.

This is my favorite so far. Are those vocals clean? I like your voice in this one.

jmasterx
Member #11,410
October 2009

Thank you Edgar! Really appreciate it and glad you liked it! Thanks for sharing!
The vocals are a bit tuned so they sit well in the mix but that's pretty much how I sang it! :)

Edgar Reynaldo
Major Reynaldo
May 2007
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Hopefully this comment is constructive.

These two lines :

Slowly eating all of my health away
Away

Sound a little strained rhythmically. I think a slight edit to say "Slowly eating me away, away" would sound better lyrically and fit better with the rhythm of the melodic lines.

jmasterx
Member #11,410
October 2009

Thanks for the feedback :)

Yeah I wanted to create an interesting dotted eighth note feel for the end of the verse to kind of break things up, I don't like it when melodic lines are too repetitive. But, such a timing has to be spot on to get the desired effect and dotted 8th are kind of in between the beat and are easily noticed if they're a little off. But I'll keep that in mind for future songs!

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Derezo
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April 2001
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Wooow, it's been almost 5 years since I've made a POST! [edit: In hind sight, I think that's the thread start date.] I probably typed out and deleted at least 2 since then I'm sure, haha.

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Erin Maus
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July 2006
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I wanna make a queer ItsyRealm game dev vlog for some reason.

>:(

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RmBeer2
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Erin Maus
Member #7,537
July 2006
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I'm wondering how certain people would rationalize Trump's Postmaster General sabotaging mail in voting.

???

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Mail in voting is full of fraud. Except when I do it. Or in states that favor me. Then it is beautiful. Very beautiful.

Bob Keane
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June 2006

Erin Maus said:

I'm wondering how certain people would rationalize Trump's Postmaster General sabotaging mail in voting.

I spoke with my roommate a few days ago about this. He, as a Trump supporter, claimed people's cats, dead people, etc, would submitting votes. The postmaster general is only towing the party line

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Erin Maus
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July 2006
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Yeah because Republicans love Alternative Facts (tm) where voter fraud is an issue and not real facts where voter fraud is not an issue but election fraud ACTUALLY is. You know, fraud by people running the elections.

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