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jmasterx
Member #11,410
October 2009

The cheese is free because all mice that have an abundance of cheese pay a cheese tax so that the less fortunate mice can have enough cheese to live :)

Not hard to understand at all.

Sure, some mice mooch, they're perfectly capable of finding their own cheese, but a lot of mice truly benefit and would otherwise have a lower survival rate.

Unfortunately 1% of mice have more cheese than the lower 99% and it would benefit mice as a whole if that were more balanced.

NiteHackr
Member #2,229
April 2002

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;D

Edgar Reynaldo
Major Reynaldo
May 2007
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1/32 would be 5 generations back, but the DNA test Elizabeth Warren took shows she has an ancestor of Native American heritage from 6 to 10 generations back.

Bustamante DNA analysis of Elizabeth Warren.

Still true.

EDIT
Also, Neil, that is the dumbest thing I've seen you post in a while. Democratic Socialism aims to make things better for everyone. Also, Jesus was a Socialist. Where do you get this shit?

Arvidsson
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May 2004
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;D

Chris Katko
Member #1,881
January 2002
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Spoken like someone who has only heard about caricatures of Trump supporters from the media.

You might as well be talking about black people all have bones in their noses because you read a book in the 1930s about them.

Fun fact: 28% of Hispanics voted for Trump. What about of white bigots.

Another Fun fact: It's actually increased for 2020 and that terrifies Democrats.

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Edgar Reynaldo
Major Reynaldo
May 2007
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Have you ever seen a Trump rally? WTF. Full of broke ass rednecks. The only reason they voted for Trump was because he was their "White Knight" and he would send the brown people back to Mexico.

NiteHackr
Member #2,229
April 2002

Looks like a pretty good mix of races and genders supporting Trump to me...
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The only racism I am seeing is what you just posted "Edgar".

Edgar Reynaldo
Major Reynaldo
May 2007
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Ah,haa,haa don't you know they literally hand out cash to black people so they will attend? WTFLMAOSHISM.

Just so you know (in case your head was still in the sand) building a $5+ billion (initially) wall to keep poor people out is fucking racist and classist. Blacks and hispanics can be racist too, dumb ass.

Chris Katko
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January 2002
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Ah,haa,haa don't you know they literally hand out cash to black people so they will attend? WTFLMAOSHISM.

That's literally what conservatives have been saying about Democrats for decades.

So you're saying it DOES happen?

Fun fact: Obama own brother, is a Trump supporter:

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But feel free to throw away the thoughts of a black person like the DNC has been doing for decades. People with your attitude literally screamed a black woman out of a restaurant by a bunch of white soyboys "decrying racism". [Let that sink in]

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Look at the face of tolerance!

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And, if you'll notice, I even said I was probably voting for Bernie Sanders next election. So if you can't figure out why someone would vote for Trump and Bernie, it's because you're not really listening. The answer is, they both run on a platform of change, and removing corruption, and they're both a threat to the establishment to the point the MSM sends out daily hitpieces to smear them.

And don't even get me started on how pissed Asians are at the Democrats for calling them "basically white" and literally demanding they score higher than everyone else to get into Harvard because they were systematically rated lower on "personality". That's right. ALL Asians apparently have a "bad personality" according to peace-loving, tolerant Democrats. Because a culture of working hard is apparently antithesis to the modern liberal environment. (Shout out to all my Asian friends who work their ass off.)

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Edgar Reynaldo
Major Reynaldo
May 2007
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Brain meet washing. Gal'dang Communist Russkie spies.

Random images (my feelings, expressed in song)

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NiteHackr
Member #2,229
April 2002

No Edgar, the wall is to keep ILLEGAL CRIMINALS out. Immigrants are welcome to enter the country LEGALLY, and Trump has said so. Every president from Bill Clinton to Obama have all stated that something needed to be done against illegal immigrants and they are on record saying so, you can find the video clips on Youtube proving it.

The only one brainwashed here is YOU!

Edgar Reynaldo
Major Reynaldo
May 2007
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raynebc
Member #11,908
May 2010

Democrats are blind to their own racism. It's a problem they can't bear to admit.

NiteHackr
Member #2,229
April 2002

raynebc: agreed. It's why you don't see me in here that often. Talking to "Edgar" is like talking to a brick wall as we can clearly see by his inane responses.

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jmasterx
Member #11,410
October 2009

Trump isn't as bad as some people make him out to be, and socialism is not as bad as some people make it out to be. Like all presidents, trump has had successes and failures, he's no different than any other president.

There's just so much misinformation; we only get our information through mass media outlets. Everything has Pros and Cons, every candidate has strengths and weaknesses.

No one is right or wrong because there is no right or wrong candidate or party. They will all do some good and some bad for the country, economy, etc. That's how it works. It's like software development. Vector has advantages and disadvantages over List.... there's no holly container, datastructure,algorithm. >:(

These angry personal debates are pointless. Vote for who you think will personally benefit you most personally. >:(

Bob Keane
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June 2006

If you consider NPR unbiased, Mr.Trump has weakened anti-corruption laws while promising to rout out corruption in government. Source:

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Hi Randall Monroe.

jmasterx
Member #11,410
October 2009

My point exactly, Trump is doing great things for the rich and big corporations, and less good things for the other 99%. I can't hold that against him, that's what he's done all his life, who did people think they were voting in? There have not been any surprises with Trump IMO, he's exactly who he's always been, he's still doing what he's been doing for years. It has benefits for some, and it's bad for others, Pros and Cons like any other president.

I'm not judging Trump here, he's a constant in this, but I don't get why people have buyer's remorse, he's doing everything I expected him to do. He has not changed a bit.

But if people think voting in a billionaire who came from money and filed for bankruptcy was going to be good for the middle class and lower, they're the idiots, not Trump.

Yes, I know the election was probably rigged, but Hillary would have probably been very similar and still overall benefited big corporations that paid for a good portion of her run. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but if your goal is to have more equality in the middle and lower class, she's probably not the best choice. But since it's less about the policies and more about the person and how exciting and charismatic they are, the ones with more boring, more introverted to-the-point personality types, especially ones who do not want to get funding from big corps, have little to no chance. Which is unfortunate but people like Junk Food, even if there's a healthier, less sexy alternative.

Edgar Reynaldo
Major Reynaldo
May 2007
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If you think Trump is a 'good' president, you're mentally ill.

Trump's accomplishments :

1) Tax cuts for billionaires
2) Gutting programs for poor people
3) Appointing people with zero experience to positions in our government that control our lives because they donated to his campaign.
4) His family is making a killing off the government, but you want to hear about Hunter Biden.
5) He has rolled back environmental protection laws all across the board.
6) He opens public land to drilling and gas exploration
7) He's still trying to build a wall without the support of the people or Congress.
8) He's pumping money into ICE and CBP to fight a non-existent immigration crisis. ($2 Billion a piece according to his latest budget proposal)
9) Every business he's ever had has either gone bankrupt or been accused of corruption
10) He ran a fraudulent charity and was fined $2 million for misusing donations
11) Nearly got us into a war with Iran to get re-elected

I could keep going, but none of you care about the truth. Your heads are so far up your own asses there's no hope to pull them out.

12) He was impeached, and the only reason he didn't get removed is because there was a show trial without witnesses or evidence backed by a corrupt Republican party.

But yeah, suck his d**k a little more

jmasterx
Member #11,410
October 2009

There is no notion of good or bad without an optimization goal.

For the vast majority of optimization goals, Trump is bad, for a few goals that optimize wealth for the wealthy he's average.

Edgar Reynaldo
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May 2007
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jmasterx
Member #11,410
October 2009

He's certainly not a president working for the greater good of humanity or Americans in general - I don't know the definition of 'evil' it's too subjective for me, but I can agree that his actions do not benefit the greater good of society as a whole.

But a lot of people genuinely voted for that, and I fully expected him to be exactly like this. No surprises here.

I'm pretty sure in his mind, greed and corruption is how your run a good business so it's also how you run a good country. He manages the country like he manages his businesses what do people expect? You hired Saul Goodman.

In my subjective opinion, right now I think the candidate that would optimize the greatest benefit for the average american is Bernie Sanders. The stock market and maybe even GDP might take a hit under Bernie, but the average american would probably have an overall better quality of life than with many other candidates.

But it depends what's important to you and what you want to optimize for.

For me personally I like socialism and I like equality for all. I would be happy in a world where people earning over a million a year are taxed marginally at 70% for every additional dollar. I don't think that people that believe in capitalism are wrong or bad people, I just optimize for the people, I'm a feeler. I care about people, not money or things, but I respect that not everyone thinks like me. I don't like massive wealth gaps.

I grew up very poor, but because I live in Quebec, Canada, my post secondary education was free and now I make a very good salary as a software developer. My marginal tax rate is around 40% and I'm fine with that.

Had I not been afforded a free education, maybe I would not have reached my full potential simply because of economic disposition.

Arvidsson
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May 2004
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;D

raynebc
Member #11,908
May 2010

Thanks for the ignorant lefty meme. Maybe you've heard of a little something called "COVID-19" that's getting pretty popular?

jmasterx
Member #11,410
October 2009

The stock market dip has nothing to do with Trump... literally one of the only good things about a Trump presidency is a stronger DOW, that's a bad point to knock him on, there's so many good ones too.

Arvidsson
Member #4,603
May 2004
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Ah, Trump only gets credit when it goes up. Gotcha.

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