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Edgar Reynaldo
Member #8,592
May 2007
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Yeah, the infamous OCZ (Ocasio-Cortez) went a little out of her mind with that one.

raynebc
Member #11,908
May 2010

Edgar, you're hopeless. The rich don't have enough money to pay for all of your hopes and dreams. You ignore biology when it's convenient. You're afraid of people having guns because you're a pessimist and don't trust people. Your admission of having PTSD explains much of your paranoia and has tainted your perspective. I don't believe I have anything more to say to you.

NiteHackr
Member #2,229
April 2002
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I wasn't going to post in here again, but I just had to say, raynebc, you're a breath of fresh air. That was a very well thought out, intelligent post.

Now back to my lurking. ;)

bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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raynebc said:

The rich don't have enough money to pay for all of your hopes and dreams.

Except they do though. ??? Have you checked the numbers lately?

raynebc
Member #11,908
May 2010

The latest Socialist Democrat darling (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) wants a Medicare plan that will cost $32 trillion (not a typo) over a ten year period. That will be a great way to drown the country in more debt and drive the surviving wealth away to a sane country. It's hard to find the exact stats I want in front of a paywall, so I had to go for some fuzzy math:

According to Google, the average annual income for top 1% US households is about $1.25 million. It would take confiscating all of the income from about 2.5 million households, every year, in the top 1% to pay for this Medicare plan. This is about twice the number of households that are in the top 1% (of which Statista says there are about 1.26 million in 2017). I couldn't find statistics for average income for the top 5% or 10%, but I imagine it would come close to taking most of the income of most of the top 5%. Wealthy people would leave the country if their taxes went up tens of percent for the latest big spending project, because where would it ever stop?

Edgar Reynaldo
Member #8,592
May 2007
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raynebc said:

Edgar, you're hopeless. The rich don't have enough money to pay for all of your hopes and dreams. You ignore biology when it's convenient. You're afraid of people having guns because you're a pessimist and don't trust people. Your admission of having PTSD explains much of your paranoia and has tainted your perspective. I don't believe I have anything more to say to you.

raynebc, you're a rotten hypocrite. You murder other intelligent life to preserve your own, yet claim an unborn human being is more precious somehow.

There's more than enough money in the US to take care of everyone. Clothing, shelter, medicine, education. All of which IMPROVE the country. But you prefer the rich keep money they don't deserve, because it was made off the backs of everyone else. You're fine with taking money away from the poor and giving it to people who are so fucking rich they don't know what to do with all their money.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/203961/wealth-distribution-for-the-us/

Look at that chart and tell me those people on the top "earned" their money. They gained it by exploiting people. Fuck you raynebc. You're a spoiled hypocrite.

Fully one half of the entire US owns less than 2% of all the wealth in the nation. Do you even have any idea what that means for quality of life for those people? Do you understand what poverty is? What going without medical care and prescriptions is like? Have you ever been homeless? Have you ever had to beg for money? Fuck you.

Aaron Bolyard
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July 2006
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idk why all or nearly all of Europe can do it (740 million people) but the US can't (300 million people)

raynebc
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May 2010

Edgar is an angry person drowning in the politics of envy. Most people that make good life choices, and whose parents made good life choices, have a good life. Freedom includes the freedom to succeed or fail on chance and on merit. Few things annoy me as much as people who refuse to work to provide for themselves.

NiteHackr
Member #2,229
April 2002
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Would you guys read what you're posting? The swearing and hatred is getting out of hand.

amarillion
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January 2001
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I stopped discussing politics on the internet a long time ago.

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Aaron Bolyard
Member #7,537
July 2006
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I'm a feminist and I found this funny:

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Oh no!

Eric Johnson
Member #14,841
January 2013
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Are any of you good with cars? Yesterday, my car (a '94 Honda Civic Ex Coupe) died on me while I was driving. The lights flickered then completely died. It wouldn't start after that. Someone tried to jump-start my car, but it didn't take, so I had to call AAA to get a tow back home. Anyway, today I bought a new battery, but my car still won't start. The lights, A/C, and other electrical goodies still work, but the engine won't turn over. It cranks like it's about to turn over, but doesn't. I tested the new battery with a multimeter and it checks out just fine. I also checked all of my fuses and relays, but they're good, too. Any ideas? ???

MiquelFire
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January 2003
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It might be your alternator. Just a wild guess though, I'm not a car person.

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Eric Johnson
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January 2013
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Thanks for the reply, MiquelFire. I'm not much of a car person either. Wouldn't I still be able to start my car even with a bad alternator (assuming the battery is fully charged)? It just wouldn't recharge the battery, as I understand it (though I could be wrong). I'll hook my battery up to a battery charger just to be safe and then try again later.

bamccaig
Member #7,536
July 2006
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I'm also not a car guy so aren't we an inappropriate bunch to discuss this. :P Let's. I agree, I think you should be able to start the engine by battery power alone. After all, the alternator produces electricity by being driven by the engine, and until the engine starts it is being driven by the starter and therefore battery! Either cars produce infinite electricity on start-up or the alternator shouldn't matter too much (unless there's some kind of circuitry load thingy that I'm not aware of that plays into things).

Make sure the battery you bought is the right spec for the car. Though for a Civic I can't imagine you can get too small of a battery. :D

It probably shouldn't matter with a fully charged battery, but I'd also try starting the engine with all of the accessories (A/C, stereo, lights, etc.) off.

Basic checklist of things required to start:

  • Fuel, and working fuel pump to deliver it to the engine.

  • Oxygen, and a clean air filter that doesn't restrict the flow of air too much and keeps harmful particles out.

  • Starter to crank the engine.

  • Spark plug to ignite the fuel/air mixture.

  • Electricity to power the starter, and arc the tips of the spark plugs.

You should have already eliminated battery/electricity unless you have a short somewhere. But then again, flashing lights and wacky electronics before the engine died might be an indication of just that, especially if a new battery doesn't fix it. The fun part is figuring out where the Hell the short is. That's well outside my area of expertise because I'm both useless with electronics and cars. But in theory, you'd need a wiring diagram for the car and to start testing circuits for a break in the circuit (where the electricity can escape by some other path). If you're desperate I guess you could try that, or call somebody to help with that. But then if you know somebody to call for that you should probably ask them for ideas because what the Hell do I know about cars? :P

Edgar Reynaldo
Member #8,592
May 2007
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raynebc said:

Edgar is an angry person drowning in the politics of envy. Most people that make good life choices, and whose parents made good life choices, have a good life. Freedom includes the freedom to succeed or fail on chance and on merit. Few things annoy me as much as people who refuse to work to provide for themselves.

No. You have no idea who I am. I've had it pretty good, despite still not being born into a very wealthy family. We've always had just enough to get by. What you have to consider is that there are MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people who have it worse off than me. I've managed to make it through college despite everything that happened to me, and now I'm going to be attending grad school. At no point did I "refuse to work to provide for myself" - I COULDN'T physically work or take part in society because I was mentally crippled. Not only will I be taking care of myself from now on, when I graduate with my MCS I will be making more than enough to take care of things.

Most people don't "choose" the life they're born into. Most people can't just "pull themselves up by their bootstraps". They need assistance. They need support. And there's no reason we can't give it to them, other than greed.

Republicans slash funding for arts, for education, for welfare, etc...., all of which are INVESTMENTS in our SOCIETY. That give a RETURN on their VALUE. When you educate your populace, you reduce crime, you increase quality of life, and you increase lifetime income. Which of those things are bad?

There's more than enough food in the world to feed everyone, yet millions of people suffer from hunger. There's more than enough wealth to take care of everyone's medical needs and shelter requirements, yet people go with out physicians and medical care, without prescriptions, without a place to live.

I find it personally quite ironic that the people with the least are the most willing to be charitable, while the people with the most like to squander everything to themselves. Poor people are more charitable because they understand what it's like to be poor.

As for you raynebc, you're a selfish toad who has no consideration for anyone but yourself.

DanielH
Member #934
January 2001
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1. If you have a new battery, it's not the alternator. The battery would be able start it. The alternator is used to power the car when running and recharge the battery.

2. The battery might not have enough cranking amps to power the starter. However, civics have smaller engines and don't need as much as a larger car/truck. So I doubt this was the case.

3. The starter might be bad.

I'm thinking it's the starter.

Aaron Bolyard
Member #7,537
July 2006
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Car problems!

It was raining heavy one day and my power steering went out in a park lot (high standing water) + the battery light came on. I'm guessing the serpentine belt was slipping? If that sounds right, how expensive is that to fix? I have a 2007 Honda Accord.

Eric Johnson
Member #14,841
January 2013
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DanielH said:

1. If you have a new battery, it's not the alternator. The battery would be able start it. The alternator is used to power the car when running and recharge the battery.

2. The battery might not have enough cranking amps to power the starter. However, civics have smaller engines and don't need as much as a larger car/truck. So I doubt this was the case.

3. The starter might be bad.

I'm thinking it's the starter.

1. Thanks for confirming.

2. The new battery's cranking amps surpasses the minimum required for the vehicle to start, so it's not this.

3. My vehicle died while driving, so the starter shouldn't have any impact there, should it? Although it could be that both the old battery and the starter have gone bad.

bamccaig said:

Basic checklist of things required to start:

Fuel, and working fuel pump to deliver it to the engine.

Oxygen, and a clean air filter that doesn't restrict the flow of air too much and keeps harmful particles out.

Starter to crank the engine.

Spark plug to ignite the fuel/air mixture.

Electricity to power the starter, and arc the tips of the spark plugs.

Thanks for the checklist. I'm not knowledgeable enough about cars to mess with most of those things, but I can at least check the air filter.

My dad is going to take a look at it on Monday. He used to be a mechanic, so hopefully he'll figure it out.

bamccaig
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July 2006
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Oh heck yeah, if your dad is mechanical he should be able to figure this out. My dad is also my go-to mechanic because he's a millwright (his job is to fix all the machinery in a steel plant) and he has been working on his own vehicles since he was a teenager. There isn't a whole lot that he can't do.

In other news, if you didn't surrender your battery when you bought the new one I wonder if you could return the new battery after confirming the old one is still functional.. But I think they usually have a disposal program in place and like to take your old battery from you. In which case, oh well, now you have a new battery.

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Also, Edgar, well said.

Eric Johnson
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January 2013
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bamccaig said:

In other news, if you didn't surrender your battery when you bought the new one I wonder if you could return the new battery after confirming the old one is still functional.. But I think they usually have a disposal program in place and like to take your old battery from you. In which case, oh well, now you have a new battery.

I tested my old battery using a multimeter, and it's definitely dying. It's like 7 years old, so it was time for a new one anyway. And yes, there's a disposal program. I had to pay like a $20 fee when I bought the new one, but I'll get that money back when I return the old one.

bamccaig
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July 2006
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It was raining heavy one day and my power steering went out in a park lot (high standing water) + the battery light came on. I'm guessing the serpentine belt was slipping? If that sounds right, how expensive is that to fix? I have a 2007 Honda Accord.

High standing water? Like high enough to reach the engine compartment?

If the serpentine belt was slipping due to rain I'd expect it to resolve itself once the water evaporates? Have you tried it again?

If the water is getting in through the hood then perhaps it could short electrical systems. That too I would expect to resolve unless residue built up from the rain. In that case, perhaps contact cleaner could help? I recently had to hit my motorcycle kill switch with contact cleaner because it was causing connectivity issues and sore balls. :-X

I can't imagine that would impact the power steering unless as you said the belt was slipping, but I think they're on there tight enough that even if they slip some they should eventually get the pump moving. Perhaps if there was a leak in the system, and water leaked into the system, it could reduce the hydraulic capabilities of the fluid, but that sounds pretty far out there unless the car is in really rough shape.

Aaron Bolyard
Member #7,537
July 2006
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Thanks!

1) It wasn't high enough to reach the engine.
2) The issue was only for like 10-20 seconds.
3) The car is in great shape.

I'm taking it in for regular maintenance (oil change, etc) next week anyway but I just wanted an opinion or two.

MiquelFire
Member #3,110
January 2003
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Any word Eric?

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Eric Johnson
Member #14,841
January 2013
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Any word Eric?

My dad took a look at it this morning and thinks the distributor is the problem. It spins, but none of the spark plugs are sparking (he even replaced them with working spark plugs to be sure). He's researching the problem now.

Edit:
A new distributor is on its way. Hopefully my car will be back up and running by the end of the week. ;D

Also, what do you guys think about Nvidia's new RTX 20 series of GPUs?

Another edit:
My dad replaced the distributor and my car starts again! :D

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