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Are these trolls or orcs? |
Bob Keane
Member #7,342
June 2006
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I got this picture from LinkedIn. As I remember them from "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers", they were orcs. The LinkedIn article lists them as trolls. Who is right? By reading this sig, I, the reader, agree to render my soul to Bob Keane. I, the reader, understand this is a legally binding contract and freely render my soul. |
Derezo
Member #1,666
April 2001
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Orcs? Looks like they're wearing goblin face masks or something though. This was a troll: "He who controls the stuffing controls the Universe" |
Chris Katko
Member #1,881
January 2002
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Depends entirely on your mythos. This is an "elf" according to Harry Potter: {"name":"Dobby_the_house_elf.jpg","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/2\/1\/213b1321e1fb01ab231f296a4dae82a2.jpg","w":843,"h":632,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/2\/1\/213b1321e1fb01ab231f296a4dae82a2"} We've got Tolken/LOTR to thank for the more modern tall-slender versions: {"name":"Elves_leaving_Middle-earth.png","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/e\/5\/e5c1764986975248cc1e85e67db4fa60.png","w":996,"h":646,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/e\/5\/e5c1764986975248cc1e85e67db4fa60"} Likewise: Dnd has trolls and mountain trolls {"name":"tr.jpg","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/5\/1\/5136b7cb17a98125f1b733cf740decda.jpg","w":388,"h":418,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/5\/1\/5136b7cb17a98125f1b733cf740decda"} {"name":"143456.jpg","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/2\/6\/26f8ca283ba7d1ea670afb115c980698.jpg","w":347,"h":450,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/2\/6\/26f8ca283ba7d1ea670afb115c980698"} Lord of the Rings only has the Cave Troll (IIRC): {"name":"5582-560x424.jpg","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/a\/3\/a351b0b304eb9702f0f9d732748ca0a9.jpg","w":560,"h":424,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/a\/3\/a351b0b304eb9702f0f9d732748ca0a9"} Hobbit has similar trolls though they're not explicitly cave trolls IIRC. {"name":"Hobbler-trolls.jpg","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/2\/2\/2298d57b45e58800f1b43cb280d33747.jpg","w":2035,"h":867,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/2\/2\/2298d57b45e58800f1b43cb280d33747"} Harry Potter trolls look something akin to a tall Shrek: {"name":"TheTrollWantsToEatHarryPotter.jpg","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/c\/9\/c9aa68b933efef2ffd1900dc36e2f7ce.jpg","w":1023,"h":575,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/c\/9\/c9aa68b933efef2ffd1900dc36e2f7ce"} Come to think of it, Shrek is supposed to be a troll: {"name":"Shrekcharacter.jpg","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/1\/b\/1bc4c2f9096f60d87c8f2e6981a89526.jpg","w":262,"h":402,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/1\/b\/1bc4c2f9096f60d87c8f2e6981a89526"} There's the complete opposite, more akin to a feral gnome, in the movie Troll: {"name":"Troll01.png","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/9\/7\/97b98ca007912d3a83e0891bf2f52142.png","w":720,"h":404,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/9\/7\/97b98ca007912d3a83e0891bf2f52142"} And then there's Troll Hunters which would probably be called a mountain troll / giant troll: {"name":"photo_01.jpg","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/2\/2\/22091a43e424ef2d21ec56e35bff61ab.jpg","w":800,"h":533,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/2\/2\/22091a43e424ef2d21ec56e35bff61ab"} But if I were to say anything, I would call those Goblin extras in a film. {"name":"latest","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/6\/3\/638ab7ca63fe66b7e7f7ec420f6bea91.png","w":2163,"h":1271,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/6\/3\/638ab7ca63fe66b7e7f7ec420f6bea91"} -----sig: |
Elias
Member #358
May 2000
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The words goblin and orc have the exact same meaning with Tolkien (and a Hobgoblin just is a big orc). As for trolls the kinds he mentions are stone trolls, hill trolls, snow trolls, mountain trolls, cave trolls and some others -- |
Gideon Weems
Member #3,925
October 2003
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Edgar Reynaldo
Major Reynaldo
May 2007
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Well if you've ever played any first or second edition d&d you would know that these are trolls : and you have to kill them with fire or acid so they don't regenerate. They can even grow back their own head! My Website! | EAGLE GUI Library Demos | My Deviant Art Gallery | Spiraloid Preview | A4 FontMaker | Skyline! (Missile Defense) Eagle and Allegro 5 binaries | Older Allegro 4 and 5 binaries | Allegro 5 compile guide |
Chris Katko
Member #1,881
January 2002
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If in WW2, GI's had to fight trolls, things would been pretty different. -----sig: |
Bob Keane
Member #7,342
June 2006
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Chris Katko said: Come to think of it, Shrek is supposed to be a troll: By reading this sig, I, the reader, agree to render my soul to Bob Keane. I, the reader, understand this is a legally binding contract and freely render my soul. |
Gideon Weems
Member #3,925
October 2003
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Edgar Reynaldo
Major Reynaldo
May 2007
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You just made Gary Gygax frown. >-: But I totally understand where you're coming from, that book is old, and fragile. But it's got a great collection of monsters inside it, like the beholder, greater demons, metallic dragons, otyughs, and more. My Website! | EAGLE GUI Library Demos | My Deviant Art Gallery | Spiraloid Preview | A4 FontMaker | Skyline! (Missile Defense) Eagle and Allegro 5 binaries | Older Allegro 4 and 5 binaries | Allegro 5 compile guide |
Gideon Weems
Member #3,925
October 2003
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