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Blue&Black or White&Gold
Phrasz
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August 2008

http://gawker.com/what-color-is-this-goddamn-dress-1688330170

I'm seeing blue and black. My other half sees White and Gold.

seriously...

MiquelFire
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https://twitter.com/unsmokabIe/status/571106821198340097

Seems the angle you look at the monitor might help. And there's people in the comments that saw the white and gold, but now see blue and black.

I see Blue and poorly lit gold (or the bits at the bottom are block, but the bit at the top is gold)

Good lord this new keyboard is messing with my typing!

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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I can't really figure it out. I can't believe its white though. But it is possible for a really bad camera to take a bad photo making dark stuff look lighter in bad light without a flash, or with a crummy flash.

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beoran
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rouen_Cathedral_%28Monet%29

Lighting plays an important role in color perception. Like Tomasu says, this photo is so badly lighted that the color perception is not the same as how the dress would look like in white light.

When checking the photo with a drawing application the white/blue area is something like #779 to #88A in color, which does mean that on the photo it is slightly bluish gray. The black/gold color is something like #643 which definitely makes it not black but slightly reddish brown, which may look "gold"-ish to some people.

All in all this means both sides of the "debate" have it right. The dress probably is white and black under normal light, but under this light, in the photo, objectively it is greyish blue and brownish "gold".

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StevenVI
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beoran said:

this photo is so badly lighted that the color perception is not the same as how the dress would look like in white light.

I didn't see enough context in the image to get an understanding for the lighting in the entire scene to assume that I've made a subconscious color correction. What cues imply that the lighting is not white?

Also, I see it as black and blue.

Edit: Looking at it again, I can see that it appears there is some yellow lighting in the background. I guess that means I'm just color correcting in my head then..? Here's an image I did where I manually color corrected it:

{"name":"609262","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/e\/6\/e6d7f246312ff0269a317dd1f37af0f9.jpg","w":1909,"h":1124,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/e\/6\/e6d7f246312ff0269a317dd1f37af0f9"}609262

The first image is the original one. Second is correcting for the yellow light, it is more obviously blue and black here. The third one is my attempt to make it look gold and white. But I still see blue and black, just with a now horribly colored image.

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l j
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No matter how I look at it I see light blue and some brownish colors. My monitor however is bad at accurately displaying colors which may or may not influence this.

Thomas Fjellstrom
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http://www.wired.com/2015/02/science-one-agrees-color-dress/

Tada.

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At least we can all agree on one thing: The people who see the dress as white are utterly, completely wrong.

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Vanneto
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May 2007

For the life of me I cannot see the dress any other way than white and gold. The one that StevenVI posted looks white in all three instances, except the middle one, where it looks like a white dress tinted blue.

Does this mean I am suffering from some kind of retardation? ???

Just looked at the poll results. At least I share my retardation with some other people.

This reminds me of the checker shadow illusion.

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Chris Katko
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I think it looks like 7F8BBB, and 605347.

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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Sure, but that's not likely the actual color ;)

also:

video

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LennyLen
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Tada.

Four hours too late :P

Thomas Fjellstrom
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Quote:

Four hours too late :P

Haha. I did not see your post at all :o

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September 2001

{"name":"609267","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/9\/c\/9cb1bed2cdb8f88d61105b8a69f9cf3e.jpg","w":460,"h":460,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/9\/c\/9cb1bed2cdb8f88d61105b8a69f9cf3e"}609267

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{"name":"609273","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/2\/e\/2eab4f717668ed36a9da6e14aba5af26.jpg","w":720,"h":647,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/2\/e\/2eab4f717668ed36a9da6e14aba5af26"}609273

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furinkan
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m c
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Is this some hoax where people pretend to not see it as white&gold so that they can be contrarian?

and what is this "first I saw it like this then like that?" Is the server using cookies or something to return a different image after you've been served it once?

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MiquelFire
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It's not a hoax, in my view, I think the hoax is people seeing the dress as white and not blue. (Not touching the gold/black bit, as I can actually see how that is gold)

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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I think a lot of people just don't understand how lighting works or affects color perception.

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Chris Katko
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I wonder how colorblindness factors into the issue.

Secondly, I find it really strange that people (more-so the supposed "journalists") don't realize colors are subjective to their neighboring colors.

{"name":"Tcontrastc.gif","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/8\/e\/8eec9b2f9ff55bb3c5538d4b2633105d.gif","w":659,"h":346,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/8\/e\/8eec9b2f9ff55bb3c5538d4b2633105d"}Tcontrastc.gif

Are the middle pixels the same color?

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MiquelFire
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They don't look the same, but knowing why you posted it, I'm fairly certain they are. (If not, stop trolling)

XKCD take:
{"name":"dress_color.png","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/b\/5\/b5f34d6151559ccbfeb03c73bc660d2d.png","w":411,"h":354,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/b\/5\/b5f34d6151559ccbfeb03c73bc660d2d"}dress_color.png

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Febreze (and other air fresheners actually) is just below perfumes/colognes, and that's just below dead skunks in terms of smells that offend my nose.
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type568
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Secondly, I find it really strange that people (more-so the supposed "journalists") don't realize colors are subjective to their neighboring colors.

Journalists can't realize anything that can make their material less sensational.

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