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Paul whoknows
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September 2004
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I drew it with a Wacom tablet in old MS Paint.

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William Labbett
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March 2004
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Yeah ? I thought it looked a bit good for a mouse job.

I bought one of those tablets with a pen but I couldn't get used to it.

It seems unlikely that you'd be that good on a tablet without first learning with pencil and paper. Do you ever just use those ?

Dennis
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July 2003
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Can I borrow the one on the right to put in my picture above ?

Yes you can. I suppose it's lose and different enough from the picture which I eyeballed/re-constructed it from to not violate any copyrights.

Take this clean scan though, the other one was a crappy cellphone picture:
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Steve Terry
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March 2002
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Drawn by my daughter - 4 years old.

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Matthew Leverton
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It's okay, Steve. We think you did a good job.

William Labbett
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March 2004
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Dennis said:

Yes you can. I suppose it's lose and different enough from the picture which I eyeballed/re-constructed it from to not violate any copyrights.

Thanks Dennis. That's kind of you. I'm intending to clear up some of the lines which should be hidden and then I can print out so I can paint it and then combine them with my program. Can barely wait.

I was pleased to find out how you did it because I was wondering (since I was thinking you might not want to let me use it so I'd have to write my own) but would have a forgotten to ask.

Thanks again.

BTW, lose means lose a game or something. Lose an object. Loose is the word I think you wanted. If there was much sense in the English language I'd be able to say why the loo is different from the lo ::)

Johan Halmén
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September 2001

William still leads the thread with that happy guy in the dark and threatening surrounding. I searched a long time to find a favourite painting of mine (no, I don't own it, it's just my favourite), which I thought had the same feeling and mood. Here:

http://www.kajstenvall.com/1993/askel.html

The artist is a genius, have a look at his paintings here: http://www.kajstenvall.com/

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Paul whoknows
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September 2004
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@William: I started drawing with ordinary pencils, just like everyone, now I hardly ever use them, I find drawing tablets as an evolution, besides, I can save all my drawings in HD without using physical space, that's great ;)

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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aww yeah, nothing like a powerpuff!

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GullRaDriel
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September 2003
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Poor man's bump.

Nice job BTW Dennis :-p

William: the one in colors with the running guy is awesome. That's your style.

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William Labbett
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March 2004
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I don't think I need to post this really but am doing so because it might be worthwhile and keep the thread interesting.

I've drawn a picture which is part of a story I'm trying to concieve.

This guys the main character. Obviously he's been stabbed. The trouble is he's supposed to be a good guy but I think he looks bad.

What do you guys think ? Does he look like he deserved to get stabbed or could it have been an injustice ?

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/* EDIT */

Sorry Gulladriel. I was writing my post when you posted.

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Hey, thanks for all the compliments guys. I'll give some feedback on everyone elses
later.

Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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The trouble is he's supposed to be a good guy but I think he looks bad.

You have to work on his eyes, right now he doesn't look good or bad, but rather zombielike IMO.

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Paul whoknows
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September 2004
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Pencil doodle.
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Dennis
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July 2003
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Must catch sleep, will comment/reply later.

markers (doodled at home, inspired by SotA concept art):
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4B pencil on paper (drawings done in ergo-therapy):
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Johan Halmén
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September 2001

Dennis, something in that tower drawing reminds me of Marco Rota, one of my favourites among the Disney artists.

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pkrcel
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February 2012

Paul, VERY nice sense of depth and perspective on those faces....that's neat.

Dennis, is that tower Markers-colored, or only the outlines are? I'm asking because seems more colored pencil (crayon? is that?) on my laptop.

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William Labbett
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March 2004
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Paul : I like the way you can draw faces from different angles. The top three side / front and back seem to be the same person while the guy with the tattoo and eye cover is someone else.

Nice to see you doing some pencil drawings.
There's definitely a different quality about the two types - pencil and tablet.

Dennis : Very impressed with the latest two.

The tower is great. I like the way it looks like it was drawn - ie without too much thought. Is it a watercolour ?

The trees are good. I think trees are very hard to draw well. It's often the only option to simplify the leaf areas in order to get the drawing done whereas the branches are easier.

Great stuff.

Johan Halmén
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September 2001

Dennis, something in that tower drawing reminds me of Marco Rota

I wish I had found a better sample of Marco Rota's Donald Duck to place in your image:

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I should have scanned from some magazine and not just google. Especially when Rota has a lot of stories, where he has placed the ducks in a medieval environment.

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Years of thorough research have revealed that the red "x" that closes a window, really isn't red, but white on red background.

Years of thorough research have revealed that what people find beautiful about the Mandelbrot set is not the set itself, but all the rest.

Dennis
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July 2003
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Thanks Dennis. That's kind of you. I'm intending to clear up some of the lines which should be hidden and then I can print out so I can paint it and then combine them with my program. Can barely wait.

I was pleased to find out how you did it because I was wondering (since I was thinking you might not want to let me use it so I'd have to write my own) but would have a forgotten to ask.

Thanks again.

BTW, lose means lose a game or something. Lose an object. Loose is the word I think you wanted. If there was much sense in the English language I'd be able to say why the loo is different from the lo ::)

You're welcome and thanks for the clarification on lose/loose.

William still leads the thread with that happy guy in the dark and threatening surrounding.

Hm... to me the scene looks quiet, peaceful and comforting. I enjoy walking around in the woods at night.

I find drawing tablets as an evolution, besides, I can save all my drawings in HD without using physical space, that's great ;)

I find drawing tablets really hard to use and I feel like I have much more control over the result using RL-pencils/paper. I wonder if it would be different for me with a Cintique where the hand/eye/monitor/cursor coordination is more direct, closer to drawing with a real pen/pencil/brush and the lines/blobs appearing directly under the pen-tip.

Poor man's bump.

Give yourself some credit, your doodles have improved. That last one I think has more volume than your previous ones, looks much less 2D.

The trouble is he's supposed to be a good guy but I think he looks bad.

I think most of the time, you can not judge someones' alignment based on appearance. Maybe you could use some cheap symbolism, like putting a smiley button on his chest or placing a small table near him which has some books on it with titles like "Being A Good Guy", "Helping People" or place some other stuff (I really don't have any idea what though) in his room which suggests, he's a nice guy.
This really raises the question: What makes a good guy a good guy? Things?... probably not. Deeds? More likely but how to describe good deeds with objects? And what defines a good deed?

Dennis, something in that tower drawing reminds me of Marco Rota, one of my favourites among the Disney artists.

I've read many Donald Duck/Disney comics books when I was young. It was a series called "Disney's Lustiges Taschenbuch" over here. Each one featured a bunch of short stories in the Duck/Mickey Mouse universe. I liked the duck-universe stories the most, especially the ones with a medieval(or anything not-modern) setting. The Disney-ish visuals must have burned themselves into my mind back then but I don't know if any of them were drawn by him.

pkrcel said:

Dennis, is that tower Markers-colored, or only the outlines are?

The tower is great. I like the way it looks like it was drawn - ie without too much thought. Is it a watercolour ?

It's alcohol-based(not sure what that means or how that influences the shading qualities) markers (a box of 11 shades of gray (some cool, some warm) plus black) on cheap office inkjet paper. It really was drawn without much thought or planning. I'm not sure myself why that worked out as well as it did.

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The trees are good. I think trees are very hard to draw well. It's often the only option to simplify the leaf areas in order to get the drawing done whereas the branches are easier.

I've been struggling with drawing believable trees for a while now. I still don't think I'm quite there yet but I'm somewhat satisfied with how the left one turned out. I'm still surprised how I could draw both trees without ever reaching for the eraser to make any changes. Those trees were drawn from imagination and I intentionally did not try to render individual leafs(leaves?) and instead concentrated on arranging interesting clusters/shapes of dark/medium and light tones.

I wish I had found a better sample of Marco Rota's Donald Duck to place in your image:

It kind of really does look like a suitable scene for Donald to walk around.

No doodle in this post. :(

Vanneto
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May 2007

I always wanted to ask. How do you get so good at drawing? I mean, sure practice makes perfect and all that but are there any tips you guys would give to a person who wants to start?

Great work by the way. You guys are awesome.

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Paul whoknows
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September 2004
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More faces :P
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William Labbett
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March 2004
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Vanneto said:

I always wanted to ask. How do you get so good at drawing?

Speaking for myself :

Childhood - copying things. Drawing mazes. Drawing objects (IIRC).

Teenage years : Drawing classes with a woman who lived down the road. Drawing using the imagination (which was filled with stuff from reading comics).

Late teens : (took a few drugs BTW). Drawing as a counterbalance to being a student.

Twenties : Two art courses. Hanging around with talented artists. Trying to be as good as them.
Continual drawing all through twenties.

Thirties : Done less but now set in my ways with a style I liked and try to develop.

IN SHORT : copying, then doing more original stuff. Practice, practice, practice. Life drawing. Lucky to have had the time too :)

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bamccaig
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July 2006
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You have to work on his eyes, right now he doesn't look good or bad, but rather zombielike IMO.

That was my first thought too. To me the eyes look empty, which combined with the dark shade of his hair gave me a "dark" or "evil" impression. It might help some if the top of his head were shaded too. This way I think it makes it look sort of "two-faced" (i.e., think Batman). It reminds me of an evil "jester" like character.

William Labbett
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March 2004
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I tried improving him but he looks crap now. Never mind.

EDIT :

Here it is :

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tonights mood has been strange :

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Dennis
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July 2003
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@Vanneto: Practice. Grab a pencil, some paper and start drawing.

@Paul: Do you draw your (very 3D looking!) faces free-handed or do you construct them and erase the construction guides?

@William: He does not look crap, he looks dead.

another marker doodle:
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edit/bump/thread save:
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