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CSI: NY - Hacking Gears Of War 3 With HTML
bamccaig
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July 2006
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{"name":"MGx3Z.png","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/d\/8\/d8fee57488ec0e685dec41a72ed0104e.png","w":624,"h":352,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/d\/8\/d8fee57488ec0e685dec41a72ed0104e"}MGx3Z.png[1]

{"name":"facepalm.jpg","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/0\/1\/01958c2602472c01df900dd5112500f7.jpg","w":300,"h":300,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/0\/1\/01958c2602472c01df900dd5112500f7"}facepalm.jpg

{"name":"18274127.jpg","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/0\/d\/0d44e2c8f7d6d4f9b0073609fcf81348.jpg","w":400,"h":300,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/0\/d\/0d44e2c8f7d6d4f9b0073609fcf81348"}18274127.jpg

In last week's episode (which I just got around to watching today), the CSI: NY team discover printed out "computer code" in a murder victim's car, IIRC. We later learn that the victim used it to hack Gears of War 3 to make the favorite players' hitboxes smaller and their opponents' hitboxes larger in a game tournament. ::)

I can't find a YouTube clip of it yet so I'll resurrect a past blunder instead:

video

Maybe it's just me, but I've always found the original CSI: Crime Scene Investigation to be more credible than the spinoffs. :-/ It was somewhat ruined when Petersen (Grissom) left the show, and indeed it had a rough patch where it pretty much sucked, but I digress. I find it's somewhat back to normal lately with Fox (Sidle) back and Ted Danson starring as the mentor role (his sidekick portrayed by Elisabeth Shue also feels right to me). In any case, CSI: NY is considerably better than CSI: Miami... :-/ I can at least watch the former. The latter was alright in the beginning, but it got to a point where I just couldn't watch it anymore years ago...

Side note: I personally find the Gears series stupid. >:( I've only played it in short bursts, but I find the exaggerated proportions laughable and the gameplay didn't compare to PlayStation titles many years older... But then I also find the Xbox platforms stupid. I digress.

Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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Yeah. CSI:NY was also the spinoff that used Second Life but then showed things that weren't even in the actual game. Think we had a thread about that one too.

Could just watch the full episode http://www.cbs.com/shows/csi_ny/video/2219298148/csi-ny-kill-screen

weapon_S
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October 2006
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If they had used used GPL code, they'd have to put up the episode and the entire project they took it from for download ... or something.
HTML is a perfectly good web-programming language. What did you expect them to find? Sheets with brainfuck code?

AMCerasoli
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weapon_S said:

If they had used used GPL code, they'd have to put up the episode and the entire project they took it from for download ... or something.

Hahahaha do you imagine that? :D

Dennis
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July 2003
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Source code/bleeding edge technology stuff in TV and movies tends to be ridiculous (examples: text file from an early draft of the PDF standard in Gundam Wing / Lego Mindstorms firmware downloader code in Iron Man) is usually copied from totally unrelated stuff but that looks like a new world record in stupidity.

So... blame the writers who didn't know it any better.

What I don't get is why they still put dumb stuff like that into their stories... why not just use an alternate story element which is at least somewhat believable without actually showing any (ridiculous and fake) details about the thing. In this case they could have easily just let them find a random storage medium containing the tool or maybe even just that 'hackers' diary.

(Never watched any of the CSI series.)

I wonder if there is a website somewhere with a collection of all this 'wrong computer stuff' from movies and TV series.

23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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Anyone see the last Die Hard? That movie was horrible for this. >_<

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Trent Gamblin
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April 2000
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It can be done. You just ain't 1337 enough.

james_lohr
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February 2002

On the surface it seems amazing that a movie like Die Hard 4 that is worth hundreds of millions of dollars can't pay a CS undergraduate $10/hour to sanity check its technology references. Though this would of course have required rewriting half the plot, and the film industry really doesn't care if it offends a few geeks.

weapon_S
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October 2006
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[Geek consultant reads script rewrite #281]
"Oh my... Sure!... That's totally plausible!... JUST FILM IT AND NEVER SHOW ME THIS KIND OF CRAP AGAIN!"

relpatseht
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September 2004
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I find the font funnier than the (invalid) html.

Dennis
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July 2003
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Slowly it is dawning on me... the only correct answer to the OP is: They should have used variables instead.

23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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I find the font funnier than the (invalid) html.

I found that funny too. Isn't that Comic Sans? Keep ratcheting up that fail, guys ...

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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What's wrong with Comic Sans? Comic Sans is cool and you know it >:(

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james_lohr
Member #1,947
February 2002

"We need source code!" right click, view page source,
"We need it to look like it was hand written!" paste in word, select comic sans

Unbeatable fail.

23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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I wanted to see if I could figure out what the code actually did, but it's got everything outside the tags removed. I do notice both sheets are identical though ...

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Dennis
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July 2003
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I do notice both sheets are identical though ...

That jumped to my eye too but upon further investigation I found a small difference in the visible parts of those header definitions in the posted still image... :P (yeah, I'm bored while I'm waiting for my Mass Effect 2 download to finish).

{"name":"605866","src":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/1\/a\/1a00b420ee046a6f8ae55ecdf5766ba2.png","w":624,"h":352,"tn":"\/\/djungxnpq2nug.cloudfront.net\/image\/cache\/1\/a\/1a00b420ee046a6f8ae55ecdf5766ba2"}605866

23yrold3yrold
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It's sad that we're examining this more closely than they did ...

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Thomas Fjellstrom
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I thought about screencaping it and posting it... But only a brief second. Then I watched the rest of the show.

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Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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It's sad that we're examining this more closely than they did ...

Well we (well you guys, rather) are programmers and they obviously just had a thing typed up without using a programmer to do it.

@Dennis: That could be two revisions of the same page or two separate pages though. So the 'error' may not be an error there.

[REVISION]
Just realized I made that too general. They obviously did it wrong, but the pages could be meant to represent two pages or revisions. It may just be where content= was on line above it.

Dennis
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July 2003
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@Dennis: That could be two revisions of the same page or two separate pages though. So the 'error' may not be an error there.

No one said anything about that being an error. Learn to read.

Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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Dennis said:

No one said anything about that being an error. Learn to read.

No, you need to learn to read. I never said you said it was an error or anyone else did. I was referring to the fact that on the back page it was <title> while on the front was content=<title> so either that was an error on their part, revision of the same page to make it look different, or two separate pages made.

Dennis
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July 2003
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No, you need to learn to read. I never said you said it was an error or anyone else did.

You clearly implied that with "So the 'error' may not be an error there.". Why else would you have included that statement in your post while addressing me?

If it was to point out an entirely new fact (their HTML is indeed broken) you should have written it in a new paragraph, so it would not be mistaken as related to something someone else wrote previously.

23yrold3yrold
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March 2001
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Here goes the thread ...

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Dennis
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Sorry for the derailment.

@Mr. Phoenix: I'm just a bit grumpy today (in general) so I'm sorry for the 'Learn to read.'. That was unnecessary and rude.

Meanwhile, my Mass Effect 2 download finished, so I'll play that now.

Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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@Dennis: No need to apologize. That is what I hate about text, you can read one line and get more than one meaning from it.

Dennis said:

You clearly implied that with "So the 'error' may not be an error there.".

The 'error' wasn't meant to imply anything towards you. I just mean the wrong code may have been intentional or early stages of a page. After all the entire code looks messed up as it goes content=<meta description ="Keywords" content=<title></title>.

Though, it may not be an error. Maybe it was to show the character fancied himself something he wasn't. Fact is only programmers would catch any of this as the average watcher would have been utterly clueless about it. I would have been utterly clueless about it because normally I don't take any show that incorporates high end technology into it (like CSI: Miami's touch screen investigation tools in the lab) serious.

Looking back at my posts, I'm not sure what the hell I was trying to say. I know what I wanted to say but didn't come out like I wanted. I just simply meant their broke code may be intentional.

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