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A Doodle Thread Appears!
Trent Gamblin
Member #261
April 2000
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I looked at this

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And made this

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james_lohr
Member #1,947
February 2002

I did a second version of my sunset. :)

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Dustin Dettmer
Member #3,935
October 2003
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Very nice. I miss the horse ridding woman :).

Johan Halmén
Member #1,550
September 2001

James, the reflexions of the Sun shouldn't look like they were painted on the water. I mean, the perspective thing is wrong here. The reflexion path almost never gets wider near the shore. It's actually the opposite. It's not the perspective that acts here, but the roughness of the sea. Other than that, I love the picture.

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Matthew Leverton
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January 1999
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Maybe it's a large spotlight going from the shore to the horizon.

james_lohr
Member #1,947
February 2002

James, the reflexions of the Sun shouldn't look like they were painted on the water. I mean, the perspective thing is wrong here. The reflexion path almost never gets wider near the shore. It's actually the opposite. It's not the perspective that acts here, but the roughness of the sea. Other than that, I love the picture.

Haha, good point. I'll do some drawing from observation next. I guess I've been getting carried away a bit. :)

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Looks like I'm not the only one:

(this is not my work) :

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Dennis
Member #1,090
July 2003
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That second one is much better than the first attempt. Great atmosphere in there.

About the reflection: It all depends on whether the see is rough or calm, the height of the sun, camera angle, clouds. Google image search for "sunset at sea".
Looks like sometimes there is even no perspective narrowing/broadening in the reflection at all and it's almost one plain thick rectangular area.

Johan Halmén
Member #1,550
September 2001

The rectangular area or parallel edges is kind of the normal one. And it might also widen towards the horizon, due to the structure of the water surface, i.e. more wind the farther out you are. But it should almost never widen towards the viewer, like it would follow some perspective lines. OTOH:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ennor/353250218/#/

That linked image might be a true image, but somehow it looks faked.

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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That linked image might be a true image, but somehow it looks faked.

Consider that the more distant reflections "see" a narrower sun as only a tiny bit of the top of the sun is visible over the cloud top from that point.

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Elias
Member #358
May 2000

Consider that the more distant reflections "see" a narrower sun as only a tiny bit of the top of the sun is visible over the cloud top from that point.

http://www.cepolina.com/photo/sea_sunset_flash.htm

That has no clouds (that I could see at least) and yet is the same.

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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Elias said:

That has no clouds (that I could see at least) and yet is the same.

Indeed, the reflection of the sun near the horizon seems almost specular, with a round reflection. The waves diffuse reflection is like gl_shininess, and since the nearer reflections are more diffuse, I can only speculate that the water is glassy offshore.

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Dennis
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July 2003
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Maybe this is what's going on in the "widening" reflection case (which seems to be the exception when looking at pictures and sunset videos on the internet):

(exaggerated artificial waves and their simplified surfaces)
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Elias
Member #358
May 2000

That does sound like a plausible explanation. Also the clouds in the first and haze in the second linked picture above could play a role.

In the end it means the artist does have some freedom though - unless they draw a scene with parallel waves and a clear sky :)

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Arthur Kalliokoski
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February 2005
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Look at the images brought up by the icons to the left of Elias' link.

"Sea sundown" has waves approaching at an angle without significantly shifting the reflection to the right, as Dennis' idea would seem to imply.

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"Sea sunset horizon" shows one half of a very wide reflection cut off by clouds.

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Elias
Member #358
May 2000

Hm, it's almost two months I've drawn something - so here my sunset inspired doodle.

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video

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GullRaDriel
Member #3,861
September 2003
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Nice one Elias :-)

James you also have good drawing skills ! And Dennis, your tree is psychedelic !

My last doodle, the first since I hurt my thumb (and it's back to normal, I even could have my boxe training without pain :-) )

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Next time I'll try to record a time lapse of my poor attempt. It for sure will be funny :-p

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james_lohr
Member #1,947
February 2002

Elias: I love it. :)

I started drawing my mammoth before your post by the way. :P

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Trent Gamblin
Member #261
April 2000
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Tried to draw my dog. Happy with it but it could be better.

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Arthur Kalliokoski
Second in Command
February 2005
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That looks a lot like a human in a dog suit!

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Elias
Member #358
May 2000

Aww, it's Trixie.

James: really like that mammoth.
I need to start practicing drawing elephants not from scratch.

Gull: is that drawn after a real lantern?

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J-Gamer
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January 2011
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Ok, here's another one:
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EDIT: finished it up(7 levels deep before my pencil got too thick)
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james_lohr
Member #1,947
February 2002

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Peter Wang
Member #23
April 2000

For Lenny

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GullRaDriel
Member #3,861
September 2003
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Nice Peter ! Hand made , I like what's hand made ^^

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Trent Gamblin
Member #261
April 2000
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