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Popularity of Allegro.
Mark Oates
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March 2001
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Alright, alright... I'll admit, I too have had the OP's concern at one point. It went something like this:

"When I make my pwn program, should I include Allegro in the opening loading sequence? Though I don't want to neglect support, I don't want to bring too much attention to the allegro community, it could disrupt my precious virgin internet haven hole."

Ok?! Are you happy now!? >:(

How embarrasing :-[:-[:-[:'(

Later, after late in the afternoon when I got out of bed, I thought it through.

[edit] BUT! >:( If any of you so much as think about doing a pwn with intent to disrupt my precious virgin haven hole, oh there will be consequences... there will be consequences...

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Emanresu
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I don't "intend" to, does that count?

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type568
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March 2007
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"When I make my pwn program, should I include Allegro in the opening loading sequence? Though I don't want to neglect support, I don't want to bring too much attention to the allegro community, it could disrupt my precious virgin internet haven hole."

Not like I've an appropriate project it could apply to, but I sure second that.

Mark Oates
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March 2001
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Emanresu said:

I don't "intend" to, does that count?

Well if we're just speaking purely hypocritically here, if you don't "intend" to... maybe I wouldn't mind... :-*... so much... ;)

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Tobias Dammers
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August 2002
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Emanresu said:

The 500 monkeys on typewriters theory.

That theory is built on infinite amounts of time. It's also not true - for a typical monkey, certain character sequences are much easier to type than others, which means there might not even be enough entropy in that RNG to produce the works of Shakespeare; instead, they might keep spitting out the same garbage over and over again. Seeing how difficult it is to construct algorithms that produce powerful entropy based on a finit set of initial values (cryptography basically revolves around this single problem), I consider it highly unlikely that any number of real-world monkeys (or hypothetical immortal yet otherwise completely real-world monkeys) would fit the theory.

Let's say from almost 13.000 users that Allegro currently have, abruptly grows to 19.000, there will be a lot of ignorants (including me) asking the same questions all over the time like currently is happening, but worse.

Even if that were to happen, I doubt such an increase (not even 50%) would hit any serious bottlenecks. 1000% and we might be talking, but even that could easily be remedied by throwing more hardware at it. A factor of 1000, and Matthew might have to think about how to restructure the code to allow it to cope with the traffic - but there is absolutely no way whatsoever we'd be attracting 13 million new users overnight.

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type568
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March 2007
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@Tobias
I totally agree with you regarding the first paragraph you've written, and totally disagree about the second. The "point" of the forum, or at least so it looks it is for me, is a "small, dear community of like-minded people" many of whom "I know" for the 5th year. A rapid increment in the number, allowing the new comers to interact with each other bypassing the oldies could form a new type of behaviour on the forum, which I believe could threaten the "current state of things" here.

Tobias Dammers
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August 2002
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Nah. We'll scare them away fast enough.

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AMCerasoli
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May 2010
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Well Actually I wasn't talking about technicals problems... I was talking about Knowledge... This kind of forum doesn't works if just the 10% of the members know what really is happening... and the rest 90% are making questions, and waiting for someone to help him. I have seems a lot of forums like that; everyone is making question, the same questions in lot of topics and no answer.

As you can see we're almost 13.000 members, we could say that members before 5.000 should at least know basics thinks about allegro, but as you can see even when we're almost 13.000 members only a few of them are "regulars" and are always here. Sometimes I few guilty when I make a question because I already know the people who is going to answer it... I always see the sames, I don't know maybe 20, or 15... from almost 13.000. I think if Matthew run a script to delete all the inactive users that number would decrees a lot.

I would like to know who is member one? if this community still growing trough the years and Matthew don't make a clean, we're going to have death members, you know in his profile is going to say things like: "Death, his last project was..." Hahahaha I'm kidding ;D.

Elias
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May 2000

#allegro wouldn't have any problems with 10 times as many people in there... often there's hours without anyone talking right now.

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Johan Halmén
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September 2001

That theory is built on infinite amounts of time. It's also not true - for a typical monkey, certain character sequences are much easier to type than others, which means there might not even be enough entropy in that RNG to produce the works of Shakespeare;

Yes, but wasn't the qwerty keyboard designed in the first place so that common English would be easy to type? Though coding would be harder...

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jhuuskon
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April 2000
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On the contrary. It was designed to minise jams in mechanical typewriters.

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type568
Member #8,381
March 2007
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Nah. We'll scare them away fast enough.

So far it seems to be working this way.. Either adapt & get adopted or.. Get neglected/"neglect themselves" natively.

It's quite funny though I've been considering myself a new member, until I suddenly realized.. I'm now counting my 5th year here. Active almost all the time, although almost only in off-topic, recently.

So the process of adaptation maybe quite slow, and if we suddenly get 10 new guys per one old, it may have nasty effects.. :)

Tobias Dammers
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August 2002
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type568 said:

if we suddenly get 10 new guys per one old, it may have nasty effects..

Don't think so. New guys are gonna ask the same questions over and over. If people get seriously tired of asking them, they'll just end up in the FAQ, and people could just answer them with a simple 'RTFM'.

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gnolam
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March 2002
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I consider it highly unlikely that any number of real-world monkeys (or hypothetical immortal yet otherwise completely real-world monkeys) would fit the theory.

Obligatory: Inflexible Logic. :)

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piccolo
Member #3,163
January 2003
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Thats not how the model works at all.
From what I have seen.(From the Begining)

The new guy ask questions.
old cats answers question.
Newer guy asks same question.
the new guy answers question to reinforce his learning.
If new guy does not get it right Old cat steps in.
Or old cat steps in to add additional information.

Edit: i have been monitoring allegro logs and i see there are a lot Mac address that have accounts tied to them but are not loged in an still accessing site content. there are also accounts with 4-5 Mac address tied to them. I have also noticed mac address accessing site content. then years later get accounts linked to them.

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type568
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March 2007
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Don't think so. New guys are gonna ask the same questions over and over. If people get seriously tired of asking them, they'll just end up in the FAQ, and people could just answer them with a simple 'RTFM'.

You can't really send'em RTFM from the off-topic ordeals.

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